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 Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2018 01:49 am
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Great move by Philly. To paraphrase JR, business in the East is about to pick up.






Jimmy Butler has his wish: He's out of Minnesota.And just like that, Philadelphia has a new Big Three — one that could make serious noise in the Eastern Conference.
A person with knowledge of the situation said Saturday that Butler is being traded to the 76ers in a package that will send Dario Saric and Robert Covington to the Timberwolves. The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the trade had not yet been announced by either team and was still pending NBA approval, which might not come until Monday.
Justin Patton will also be sent to Philadelphia, and Jarryd Bayless and a 2022 second-round pick are also going to Minnesota, the person said.
The Athletic first reported the agreement.
Philadelphia's "Process" led it to the second round of the playoffs last season behind two of the game's youngest, brightest stars in big man Joel Embiid and point guard Ben Simmons. Butler, an elite wing and outstanding defender, will join them in a quest to rule the Eastern Conference now that LeBron James has left that league to join the Los Angeles Lakers following eight straight trips to the NBA Finals with Miami and Cleveland.
The first order of business will be making the trade official, something that could come in time to get Butler in uniform for a game at Miami on Monday. The next step for Philadelphia will be coming to an agreement on an extension for Butler, a pending free agent who made clear to Minnesota that he would not be re-signing there in 2019.
Translated: The Wolves had to trade him, or they would lose him for nothing over the summer.
Butler has been miserable in Minnesota, and the Timberwolves have gotten off to a lousy start waiting for this inevitable move to happen. Minnesota just finished an 0-5 road trip with a loss in Sacramento on Friday night and is 4-9 overall — winless in eight games on the road.
Butler played in 10 of those games, averaging 21.3 points. It was a peculiar arrangement; the Timberwolves were still running things through him often, even while the worst-kept secret in the NBA was that he wanted a change of address. Plenty of teams were mentioned along the way — Houston, the Los Angeles Clippers, Miami among them — as top candidates.
Butler, who turned 29 on Sept. 14, has been an All-Star in each of the last four seasons. There are also concerns, though they clearly didn't put off Philadelphia. Butler has missed at least 15 games in four of the last five seasons, including a career-high 23 games last year while dealing with a knee injury.
Philadelphia will become Butler's third team, after Chicago and Minnesota. He's a career 16.5 point-per-game scorer, though that is skewed by his first two seasons that were very meagre on the scoring front. He's on pace this season to average at least 20 points for the fifth consecutive year.





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 Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2018 02:24 am
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It will be interesting to see how Butler behaves now that he's away from Thibedeau. Dude was being run into the ground, first in Chicago then in Minnesota. Thibs doesn't use his bench and Butler has logged heavy minutes for several seasons now while being counted on to be a primary scorer and a shutdown defender.

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I think Butler has the potential to do well in Philadelphia. As much as has been made of Jimmy souring on Thibs, he also was very frustrated with Karl-Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins, believing the two young players lacked intensity. I'll be interested to see how Jimmy Butler gets along with Ben Simmons who has faced a few intensity questions and how his strong personality will that of Joel Embiid.

The Twolves lost an All Star level player and, yet again, made the team a laughing stock due to how badly the trade saga was mismanaged. At least Covington and Saric improve the team's depth. Now KAT and Wiggins truly need to rise up. KAT has the numbers, but needs the offense to flow through him. Wiggins needs maturity and to become a more complete player. My take is Thibs will be out as Twolves head coach and president by 2020.

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Would have been better off with this guy

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So far it's been a good trade for both teams. Butler is off to a great start in Philly. That team can challenge for the top seed in the East. In Minnesota KAT is playing revived basketball, Covington and Saric are fitting in well, and the team seems mentally refreshed from having the drama behind them.

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Butler is what the Sixers had to have - a third star. They sacrificed depth though and will need to make up for that. Since it is much harder to get that 3rd star, it was the right move. The role players for this year will probably be acquired on vet buyouts.

As for Saric and Cov? Saric isn't getting a lot of minutes with the Wolves since Thibs never gives his bench much time. For now it is the right move. Continually playing for his national team in the offseason has worn out Saric. Perhaps he can get his legs back.

People in Minn are very happy with Cov? Yea, they just haven't see the downside of his streakiness yet. His slumps last for 3 months and every season he has one. Also his D is overrated. He is a deflection guy and very good at it. On man D, he is average at best. Both are solid role players but that is it.

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Ultimark wrote: Butler is what the Sixers had to have - a third star. They sacrificed depth though and will need to make up for that. Since it is much harder to get that 3rd star, it was the right move. The role players for this year will probably be acquired on vet buyouts.

As for Saric and Cov? Saric isn't getting a lot of minutes with the Wolves since Thibs never gives his bench much time. For now it is the right move. Continually playing for his national team in the offseason has worn out Saric. Perhaps he can get his legs back.

People in Minn are very happy with Cov? Yea, they just haven't see the downside of his streakiness yet. His slumps last for 3 months and every season he has one. Also his D is overrated. He is a deflection guy and very good at it. On man D, he is average at best. Both are solid role players but that is it.

Covington is valued as a defender who can hit the 3 when he's on. Nothing more, nothing less.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: Ultimark wrote: Butler is what the Sixers had to have - a third star. They sacrificed depth though and will need to make up for that. Since it is much harder to get that 3rd star, it was the right move. The role players for this year will probably be acquired on vet buyouts.

As for Saric and Cov? Saric isn't getting a lot of minutes with the Wolves since Thibs never gives his bench much time. For now it is the right move. Continually playing for his national team in the offseason has worn out Saric. Perhaps he can get his legs back.

People in Minn are very happy with Cov? Yea, they just haven't see the downside of his streakiness yet. His slumps last for 3 months and every season he has one. Also his D is overrated. He is a deflection guy and very good at it. On man D, he is average at best. Both are solid role players but that is it.

Covington is valued as a defender who can hit the 3 when he's on. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yep.  I actually know Sixers fans who try and tell me that Cov is almost the best ever as a 3 and D.  Pure crap.  Wait until Minn sees one of his 3 month slumps from 3.  Then it is hard to justify him being on the court. 

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