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to cash out on his performance?
Nobody sees anything wrong with that

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Not really

He is going to receive world class medical treatment, nutrition, coaching and education while enrolled because he is good at throwing a ball.



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krazykid18 wrote: to cash out on his performance?
Nobody sees anything wrong with that
You: krazy 
Trevor: kid

I agree with Franchise 



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Not to mention most child athletes now have multimillion dollar insurance for injuries by the age of 16.



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I guess you could bring him in to be shit like Josh Allen and Sam Darnold.

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He's gonna have to prove it more than one season to me. He tore up
Alabama's defense but it's over rated, always been over rated. Can you name a dominating defensive Bama player who stills dominates in the NFL? They are always drafted in the early rounds of the draft but are just mediocre in he NFL. CJ Mosely is pretty good but other than that you get players like Clinton Ha-Ha Dix and Rolando McClain.

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I think if the kid is good enough and someone wants to take a chance, then the market should dictate where he goes. The NCAA is nothing more than a serfdom where the head coaches and universities get all the riches while the players play the role of serfs. Sure, they get an education but so what? They are being used.

We had a coach here at Temple who preached endlessly - character, commitment, resilience, see it through to the end. Of course, seeing it through was only for the players. The $2m a year at Temple wasn't enough. He jumped ship, with years left on his contract, to make more $ yet many of the kids are prohibited from doing so. I call bullshit on that. Yes, everyone is not good enough. Guess what? They will stay in college. For those who are ready for the NFL, they shouldn't be stopped buy this idiotic rules.

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I wouldn’t mind getting used like that; hell I’d Gray shirt, Red Shirt, stay four more years then see if they would hire me as a GA and allow me to get my PHD for free.


I don’t feel bad for college athletes; higher education can be very expensive and for someone to get it for free because they are good at playing a game seems like a bargain.



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Franchise wrote: I wouldn’t mind getting used like that; hell I’d Gray shirt, Red Shirt, stay four more years then see if they would hire me as a GA and allow me to get my PHD for free.


I don’t feel bad for college athletes; higher education can be very expensive and for someone to get it for free because they are good at playing a game seems like a bargain.

The cost of an education is a drop in the bucket compared to how much these schools rake in off their athletes.  It's not even close.  On the open market, any decent college kid would be making millions.



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I think millions is an overstatement for decent but yes there is potential however These kids sign agreements to play a game in exchange for free college, medical treatment, housing etc.


If the players want to petition the pre NFL time limit they should and see what they can accomplish. Either way I don’t care and don’t feel bad for them.



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Franchise wrote: I think millions is an overstatement for decent but yes there is potential however These kids sign agreements to play a game in exchange for free college, medical treatment, housing etc.


If the players want to petition the pre NFL time limit they should and see what they can accomplish. Either way I don’t care and don’t feel bad for them.

Look at how much mediocre players get paid in the pros.  It absolutely is millions.  I'm not saying that a crappy player on a DIII team is worth millions to his program, but for the top schools the middle-of-the-road players could probably command that on the open market.



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I don’t know the actual number of players but it’s a very small percentage of players that go from the 130 FBS (1a) schools to the pros each year and last 3 years which I believe is the requirement to obtain post career benefits. 99.9% of college athletes should be going to college to acquire a degree.



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I think that scholarship athletes should be changed going forward. I think that the scholarship should include 100% of the tuition, etc. that is needed for an athlete to go to college for four years. And if said athlete has the ability to market his likeness and image, all the money that he earns from that will go back to the college simply to pay back the scholarship, and everything over and above the scholarship money would be split between the college and the athlete. What this would do is it would create more scholarships for kids that really need them, while also not penalizing the sports where you don't exactly make money for marketing your image. And in the end I think everybody wins. Because right now, you can't go into a store and buy this kids' jersey or see him signing autographs at a card show, or see him on TV promoting Wheaties, etc. But if he could...he could earn enough money to keep him interested in actually going to school and not cheating or starving. And many other students could benefit from the influx of scholarship cash.



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Franchise wrote: I don’t know the actual number of players but it’s a very small percentage of players that go from the 130 FBS (1a) schools to the pros each year and last 3 years which I believe is the requirement to obtain post career benefits. 99.9% of college athletes should be going to college to acquire a degree.
You can be valuable to a college program and not good enough to make it in the pros.  Tons of elite college players are drafted low based on size, pro vs. college systems, bad combine numbers, and other factors.  But none of that is relevant to how much these players mean to their colleges.  There's TV deals, booster dollars, making the school more attractive to future recruits, and so many other factors.  So every player who contributes to a successful team is worth a piece of that pie, and it's an enormous pie.

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OK, lets take the Clemson QB as an example. The all in fees for Clemson out state (which I think he is) is around $50K a year. Let's say $230K over 4 years. You think that performance in the NCAA championship game doesn't result in revenues to the school 20x that?

My point is that the market should decide. Not the NCAA or the NFL league office. If a kid is good enough to play pro ball, then he should. It doesn't matter what the tuition is or isn't. That is besides the point. The market should dictate where he goes. If he isn't good enough, then he washes out. That happens all the time. Why should they be tied to the university for 3 years? Based on what logic? Free education? Again, so what? Shouldn't it be their decision to try and advance to the next level?

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