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It has to be a fake, they don’t have his name spelled correctly.

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But in all seriousness, it’s not listed properly. Should be dated 1978/79 because one of the items they used to photo match the jersey is his Topps/OPC rookie card photo. That photo was taken before the start of the 79/80 season set came out, meaning, at best it was from Spring 1979. Which to me would date it as his original, first ever Oilers jersey from the WHA days, right after he came in from the Indianapolis Racers. Also with this said it makes it even more valuable. Plus, once the Oilers went to the NHL, they used sewed on nameplates. You can see that on his 1980/81 cards. This jersey was basically a blank or previously used 99 that they put a nameplate on very quickly. If I were a betting man, I can see this going north of $500k.



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Superstar wrote: It has to be a fake, they don’t have his name spelled correctly.
He was a gritty player.



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Superstar wrote: But in all seriousness, it’s not listed properly. Should be dated 1978/79 because one of the items they used to photo match the jersey is his Topps/OPC rookie card photo. That photo was taken before the start of the 79/80 season set came out, meaning, at best it was from Spring 1979. Which to me would date it as his original, first ever Oilers jersey from the WHA days, right after he came in from the Indianapolis Racers. Also with this said it makes it even more valuable. Plus, once the Oilers went to the NHL, they used sewed on nameplates. You can see that on his 1980/81 cards. This jersey was basically a blank or previously used 99 that they put a nameplate on very quickly. If I were a betting man, I can see this going north of $500k.
I've still got my Gretzky rookie card, purchased as an 8 year old in the fall of 1979.  As for the 80-81 cards, wasn't that the year you had to scratch off the front of the card to reveal the player's team?  Short of the Gobbledy Gooker, that's got to be the worst gimmick ever. 



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There was a set in the 60s that had a trivia question about the player on the back that you had to scratch underneath to get the answer. Before everything became "collectable" it was probably a good idea.

I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. Because that's when we did it for fun with our spare quarters. Good times.



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khawk wrote: There was a set in the 60s that had a trivia question about the player on the back that you had to scratch underneath to get the answer. Before everything became "collectable" it was probably a good idea.

I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. Because that's when we did it for fun with our spare quarters. Good times.


I can’t remember ever getting a card worth a shit in all of the packs I bought. 



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Franchise wrote: khawk wrote: There was a set in the 60s that had a trivia question about the player on the back that you had to scratch underneath to get the answer. Before everything became "collectable" it was probably a good idea.

I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. Because that's when we did it for fun with our spare quarters. Good times.


I can’t remember ever getting a card worth a shit in all of the packs I bought. 

You must have only started buying in the late 80's after Upper Deck came onto the scene and the card companies began mass producing everything and selling them in the big box stores?

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Mid 80’s but even when I would go to the card store and buy sealed packs from the 70’s I never got shit.



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khawk wrote: I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. That's interesting. I know sports cards aren't nearly as hot or valuable as they were in the late 80's and early 90's, but how much dough do you think you're sitting on if you decided to sell?



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khawk wrote: There was a set in the 60s that had a trivia question about the player on the back that you had to scratch underneath to get the answer. Before everything became "collectable" it was probably a good idea.

I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. Because that's when we did it for fun with our spare quarters. Good times.

I use to collect 51/52 Parkhurst and pre war hockey cards. Had a beautiful Rocket Richard rookie that got graded out to a PSA 7 when they first started grading.



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WongLee wrote: khawk wrote: I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. That's interesting. I know sports cards aren't nearly as hot or valuable as they were in the late 80's and early 90's, but how much dough do you think you're sitting on if you decided to sell?

New stuff is hot as ever. Connor McDavid rookies go for $10K to 35k on ebay all the time. A Mike Trout rookie just sold for $19.750 and a Tom Brady rookie card was going for $110K with 63 bids on ebay as on the 29th of Jan.



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WongLee wrote: khawk wrote: I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. That's interesting. I know sports cards aren't nearly as hot or valuable as they were in the late 80's and early 90's, but how much dough do you think you're sitting on if you decided to sell?
Going to assume Khawk has the Canadian Gretzky rookies since he lives there - if so, if they are crease free they probably go for a grand each, even if they are banged up.  If any of them are near mint, watch out...serious cash.  Also, there are some dealers/collectors that can tell which print run those are from based on colors and other factors such as seeing proof sheets.  Never seen it for any other card besides 52 Topps Mantle, but if you have an actual first print run Gretzky, it’s rare as hell.  Like, even poor condition ones command a premium.  Also - to answer KGB’s question, YES, the second year Gretzky from America had that stupid scratch off hockey puck.  I had a couple of mint Unscratched ones of those once and it was a very tough card to have in mint between the centering problems and the puck that always had a scuff.  In many ways, it’s rarer to find in mint than the American Gretzky rookie.  



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Superstar wrote: WongLee wrote: khawk wrote: I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. That's interesting. I know sports cards aren't nearly as hot or valuable as they were in the late 80's and early 90's, but how much dough do you think you're sitting on if you decided to sell?
Going to assume Khawk has the Canadian Gretzky rookies since he lives there - if so, if they are crease free they probably go for a grand each, even if they are banged up.  If any of them are near mint, watch out...serious cash.  Also, there are some dealers/collectors that can tell which print run those are from based on colors and other factors such as seeing proof sheets.  Never seen it for any other card besides 52 Topps Mantle, but if you have an actual first print run Gretzky, it’s rare as hell.  Like, even poor condition ones command a premium.  Also - to answer KGB’s question, YES, the second year Gretzky from America had that stupid scratch off hockey puck.  I had a couple of mint Unscratched ones of those once and it was a very tough card to have in mint between the centering problems and the puck that always had a scuff.  In many ways, it’s rarer to find in mint than the American Gretzky rookie.  

So, are the Canadian Gretzky's worth more than the American?  One would think that the number of Canadian hockey cards produced/sold in 1979 would be in the same ballpark as the American cards.
 
We'd spent Easter weekend in Toronto in 1979 and my dad let me buy two packs of cards.  I already had a sizeable collection of the '78-'79 cards Stateside.  The cards were mostly the same except for a slight difference in the hue on the back and, of course, the font was much smaller since it was bilingual. 



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: khawk wrote: There was a set in the 60s that had a trivia question about the player on the back that you had to scratch underneath to get the answer. Before everything became "collectable" it was probably a good idea.

I have five Gretzky rookies and a rookie Lemieux, all purchased via the pack method. Because that's when we did it for fun with our spare quarters. Good times.

I use to collect 51/52 Parkhurst and pre war hockey cards. Had a beautiful Rocket Richard rookie that got graded out to a PSA 7 when they first started grading.

The cards are all in very nice shape, no creases, corners are decent to my eye. I have not had them graded professionally but I will at some point. The additional info on the cards I really didn't know about (Canadian vs American, first run of cards, etc.)--good to know.
Fun fact: I also have a whole whack of the 51-52 and 52-53 Parkhurst sets, which were my dads and sat in an old rickety shed back behindf my grandparents house for more than 50 years; when they passed the cards came out of the shed and my dad gave them to me. 

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