'18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer
Heenan Fan wrote: Cleveland is not an original team - the original Cleveland Browns are the Baltimore Ravens. This Browns team is an expansion team that was allowed to keep the rich tradition of the Browns alive and a part of their history. I feel badly for the old Browns players pre-1994 to have to associate themselves with the post-1999 Cleveland Abomination.
Mysterious wrote: So is it about market size or QB stardom. Because Cleveland could have a future hof QB in Mayfield Cleveland is still one of the original teams from way back. Baltimore is not that much bigger than Cleveland and beat the big apple Giants for one of their Superbowls. Dallas hasn't played in one since 1996 and L.A. went 20 years without a team.
Heenan Fan wrote: Good point, but consider this, GB and Pitt both had future hof qbs. Not to mention both are NFL Royalty, especially Pitt. Baltimore bought their 2nd Super Bowl, obviously (worse reffed SB ever?) Indy also had a future hof qb. When Indy won the SB, it rained. That's because they should of been playing Seattle or New Orleans, but the NFL wanted Chicago in that year. Big market. Carolina had MVP Cam Newton and he couldn't be bothered to scoop up his own fumble. They lost too. Cam said he didn't want to risk injury. Also, Pitt and Bal are not small market sports towns. They both have plenty of money to buy their ilk!
The NFL isn't going to allow small market Cleveland anywhere near the Super Bowl even if they're good enough on their own to get there, which they aren't. Just stop!Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Indianapolis and Carolina were all in recent Superbowls
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