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 Posted: Tue Jun 11th, 2019 04:21 pm
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Do you buy into the belief and opinion that WAR scores are a legitimate means to evaluate baseball players?  


Wins Above Replacement or Wins Above Replacement Player, commonly abbreviated to WAR or WARP, is a non-standardized sabermetric baseball statistic developed to sum up "a player's total contributions to his team". A player's WAR value is claimed to be the number of additional wins his team has achieved above the number of expected team wins if that player were substituted with a replacement-level player: a player who may be added to the team for minimal cost and effort.

Individual WAR values are calculated from the number and success rate of on-field actions by a player (in batting, baserunning, fielding, and pitching), with higher values reflecting larger contributions to a team's success.   WAR value also depends on what position a player plays, with more value going to weaker hitting positions like catcher than positions with strong hitting such as first base.  A high WAR value built up by a player reflects successful performance, a large quantity of playing time, or both.


For example, Fangraphs rates Clayton Kershaw’s 2014 regular season performance at 7.2 WAR, suggesting his team won roughly seven more games than would be expected if his innings had been pitched by a replacement level player. Kershaw achieved this high WAR total by pitching many innings while maintaining a high rate of strikeouts and low rates of home runs and walks.



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Babe Ruth loved to be with WHORES. Is that the same thing?



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I bet Ty Cobb used to love Beating WHORES

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Mike Trout is the posterboy for WAR. The Angels still suck with him playing or not.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Mike Trout is the posterboy for WAR. The Angels still suck with him playing or not.
I hope Trout enjoys all that money to put up with losing every year. 



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Silly stat that no one could possibly think is accurate. You can mix whatever numbers you want to make anyone look good or bad. This is an agent's dream but of no practical purpose.



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srossi wrote: Silly stat that no one could possibly think is accurate. You can mix whatever numbers you want to make anyone look good or bad. This is an agent's dream but of no practical purpose.

This is what I was looking for.    I see a lot of articles about certain guys not being in the HOF and many of them are based on these WAR scores.  I do not follow stats that closely so I was wondering others thought he may be more knowledgeable with this kind of stuff. 



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WAR! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!

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I haven't seen a clear definition of what a replacement player is, so I ignore WAR.

In the past 7 years or so, MLB stat-heads have been trying to quantify everything. To which I always reply: "how fast was Willie Mays going-- and at what angle-- when he made that famous catch"?



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