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 Posted: Wed Nov 13th, 2019 10:17 pm
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tamalie wrote: lobo316 wrote: The pc freaks win again. At least he goes out on his own terms.
He was asked to apologize but refused, unlike that ass kisser Ron MacLean.

Don Cherry offered to apologize and when asked to go further than he was apparently willing to go, whatever that was, he said no and that was it. Despite that exchange, he didn't go out on his own terms when all was said and done. He got fired midseason. Going out on his own terms would mean retiring by his own choice minus any scandal or controversy, whether that meant having a final season of farewells and nostalgia capped by an emotional farewell after the last game of the Stanley Cup Finals or simply announcing quietly in midsummer that it was time to hang it up and that it's been a blast.

I think that Rogers, if not the CBC before it, had probably been wrestling for a long time with the dilemma of wanting Don Cherry gone, but not being able to push out an icon without a backlash. Various minor incidents have occurred through the years and if not for those many prior statements, Don Cherry might have come through this storm had it been a one off thing. However, this was the straw that broke the camel's back as part of content accumulated a lengthy period time. It finally gave his employers the ability to send him packing and be seen as justified by a good portion of people and the media instead of as meanies who unfairly gave Uncle Don the boot by a strong majority.

The didn't renew his contract last summer but public pressure got them to re-up for one more year. They've been cleaning out their higher priced sportscasters because they are taking a bath on their hockey package and what they paid for it. This was all they were looking for to fire him, and he delivered as expected.
Ron McClean throwing him under the bus in the aftermath was awful IMO. Fuck that ass kissing piece of trash.

End of the Day Cherry was no longer relevant and at 85 it was time for him to retire anyways.



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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".

Exactly.  Although you are wrong about one thing.  I was highly offended that Don Cherry actually thinks that Canada has a military.  Quite offensive to real militaries. 

And really Rossi since if Wikipedia was a person you'd have sucked his cock dry you might want to educate yourself about exactly how much the Canadian Military has done to provide you with the opportunity you have to be the condescending pompous cock sucking piece of shit you are.  You don't know half the shit you think you do.



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Ironically enough, my stepfather is in the Canadian Military, he's a landed immigrant from Peru, and probably has no idea what the fuck a poppy is used for other than Opium.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Ironically enough, my stepfather is in the Canadian Military, he's a landed immigrant from Peru, and probably has no idea what the fuck a poppy is used for other than Opium.
You had 2 stepfathers who immigrated from Peru.😂😂😂:tongue::tongue::tongue:



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Angelic Assassin wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".

Exactly.  Although you are wrong about one thing.  I was highly offended that Don Cherry actually thinks that Canada has a military.  Quite offensive to real militaries. 

The Canadian Military goes in and cleans up after you people ( you like that) shit the bed and make a total mess of things.


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srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.
You're wrong about this not being a forum for Cherry to say things like this.  For 30+ years, Coach's Corner has been a platform for Cherry to talk about both hockey and current events, often on questions fed to him by Ron McLean.  In particular he has used his platform to support the Canadian armed forces.  I wouldn't want to guess how many times he's ended Coach's Corner with a choked-up tribute to a fallen soldier. 
 
On Tuesday, I tuned in to Toronto's FAN590 for their lunchtime hockey show and I couldn't make it 5 minutes.  I could smell the cucked-out sanctimony emanating from their hosts all the way across the border.  All of them were in a race to prove how woke they are with regards to Canada's great multi-cultural experiment.  Meanwhile, on Toronto's mega Baby Boomer station, AM740, a majority of the calls were supportive of Cherry's right to say what he said and in agreement with his assessment of ingratitude by "those people". 
 
Undoubtedly, the most disgusting reaction was the aforementioned hothouse flower Ron McLean, who wasted no time publicly throwing Grapes under the bus, despite having had the opportunity to push back in real time if he'd been so inclined.  Fuck that faggot. 



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To be perfectly honest - and nobody here has even tried to tell me exactly what he said that was so wrong - when I first heard him say "You People", I thought he was talking about all of the Americans that moved to Canada. I shit you not. This is why, to me, there's no implication of racism in his words. Would I be racist to say "get all of those Canadian immigrants out of the US right now!!"? In a lot of your minds, probably not. But if I replace the word Canadian with Mexican, boy, I'm fucked. This is why I say the world we live in today is fucking pathetic. Words don't make you racist or prejudiced...actions do. Don Cherry could be the president of the Killer Karl Kox fan club for all I know, but to this American, his words were very tame. Getting fired for saying "you people" when he's broad stroking an entire nation.



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I read recently an article in Sports Illustrated from '93 where it said he was close to getting fired for his over the top comments. So I think he was an extremely lucky man to survive for 26 years on thin ice and still make controversial statements which made no sense.



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silentkiller wrote: I read recently an article in Sports Illustrated from '93 where it said he was close to getting fired for his over the top comments. So I think he was an extremely lucky man to survive for 26 years on thin ice and still make controversial statements which made no sense.I'm not surprised he made it 26 years but I am surprised that he made it 26 years at the same station.  Don Imus called an entire basketball team "nappy headed ho's", and after a short time in purgatory, he got another gig where I believe he lasted for around ten more years.  In media back then, everybody had an opportunity to bounce back.  I fear that there will be no bouncing back anymore - it's like, make one mistake and you are done.  But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Cherry only made one mistake.  They wanted rid of him in the worst way and got their wish just by siding with the majority of the public.  If it were the '90s and Cherry was still drawing ratings like an icon, he would've weathered this storm.



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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.
You're wrong about this not being a forum for Cherry to say things like this.  For 30+ years, Coach's Corner has been a platform for Cherry to talk about both hockey and current events, often on questions fed to him by Ron McLean.  In particular he has used his platform to support the Canadian armed forces.  I wouldn't want to guess how many times he's ended Coach's Corner with a choked-up tribute to a fallen soldier. 


He wasn't fired for paying tribute to the military.  This is clearly not the same thing.  Forums like Coach's Corner are for softball questions and light topics.  I never heard Ralph Kiner on Kiner's Korner say, "You know, the Nazis made some good points..." and he might have been able to get away with it back then too!



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srossi wrote: I never heard Ralph Kiner on Kiner's Korner say, "You know, the Nazis made some good points..." and he might have been able to get away with it back then too!
We are talking Mets fans here, Mr. NYC...you know their fanbase.  He never gets away with giving credit to Nazis no matter what year.  But I get your point and you made me laugh out loud at my desk today as I heard those words in the "later years" Ralph Kiner voice in my head.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I never heard Ralph Kiner on Kiner's Korner say, "You know, the Nazis made some good points..." and he might have been able to get away with it back then too!
We are talking Mets fans here, Mr. NYC...you know their fanbase.  He never gets away with giving credit to Nazis no matter what year.  But I get your point and you made me laugh out loud at my desk today as I heard those words in the "later years" Ralph Kiner voice in my head.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I never heard Ralph Kiner on Kiner's Korner say, "You know, the Nazis made some good points..." and he might have been able to get away with it back then too!
We are talking Mets fans here, Mr. NYC...you know their fanbase.  He never gets away with giving credit to Nazis no matter what year.  But I get your point and you made me laugh out loud at my desk today as I heard those words in the "later years" Ralph Kiner voice in my head.

I mean Mets fans are mostly from Queens and Long Island so I think they'd be totally down with giving the Nazis a second chance.  Even though Queens is the most diverse neighborhood in the world, Yankees fans tend to be a lot more diverse than most Mets fans.

But on another note, go to a game at Fenway and play "Let's find the black person" some time.  It's loads of fun and will keep you occupied the entire 4 1/2 hour game.  You will spot literally 100 dudes wearing kilts before you find one guy who even has a tan.



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krazykid18 wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I never heard Ralph Kiner on Kiner's Korner say, "You know, the Nazis made some good points..." and he might have been able to get away with it back then too! We are talking Mets fans here, Mr. NYC...you know their fanbase.  He never gets away with giving credit to Nazis no matter what year.  But I get your point and you made me laugh out loud at my desk today as I heard those words in the "later years" Ralph Kiner voice in my head. You want to explain this commentSure.  Every time I go to what was once Shea Stadium, and is now Citi Field, somebody on my left or right is eating a Knish and most likely one person in their party is wearing a yarmulke.  This is not a bias, it's a fact - there are a shitload of openly Jewish people at Mets games.  Meaning, you know that they are Jewish based on what they wear.  The owners are Jewish too, and they'd never have a Nazi sympathizer on payroll.  Hell, they really don't want ANYBODY on payroll, but that's for another thread.



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