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Here was his comment



"You people love — they come here, whatever it is — you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey," Cherry said. "The least you could pay is a couple of bucks for a poppy or something like that. These guys pay for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada. These guys pay the biggest price.”

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I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.

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The pc freaks win again. At least he goes out on his own terms.
He was asked to apologize but refused, unlike that ass kisser Ron MacLean.

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There are things he's always been passionate about with the military being near the top.As far as his comment he has and always will call it as he sees it and based on my observation whrn I've been in the city the last couple weeks many people don't wear a poppy, and from others that I know that live in the GTA seemingly very few people wear a poppy, so he isn't really wrong.
But Coach'e's Corner is on a one minute delay and airs 3 times on Saturday night because of games in different time zones. They knew what he said and aired it two more times. Sportsnet is hypocritical for firing him on Remembrance Day taking away for  what the day is truly about.
And Ron McLean should have bern fired right along with Cherry thrn instead of being allowed to make his rubbish condemnation and apology the nect day.
Cherry in his 30 years on Coach's Corner has said way worse and other than a short period where he was sent to the penalty box and then brought back has survived because of ratings.
He is pretty close to or maybe well past senile now but we live in a time where people have a pathological need to get their panties in a twist about everything but their own lives are so pathetic they have nothing better to do. Song lyrics, statues, a politician at a costume party 20 years ago in blackface ( @as they sit and watch some of their favorite old time actors perform in blackface and say how great those movies were) , etc.
A d the media puts out the most sensationalistic headlines they can yo draw out the radicals.Radio call in shows invite you to call in with your opinion and if it differs from the snowflake opinion the station has adopted so they can all go to heaven when they die you are shut dow.CJOB in Winnipeg here has done that since the story broke.
Geoff Currier one of the guys from the morning said "yeah ok toots" to a woman because he didn't like her take and shut her down. He later apologized after he was called on it on air.  Hypocrisy.
And to finish I'll say I'm very offended by you people who are offended by the term "you people ".
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srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.

Rossi has someone who writes for him or the shit he spews on here would be even stupider   If that was possible. Of course that's just my opinion.Beej, can I be fired for that?



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Cherry has been saying stupid things for years and his big mouth finally caught up with him  and its a different time. And the sad thing is he doesnt realize there was something wrong with what he said. Just like archie bunker or Trump. Cherry is a Trump supporter by the way. And yesterday Cherry did a interview with Fox news. What a surprise. That tells you everything.lol

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Spatulapup wrote: Cherry has been saying stupid things for years and his big mouth finally caught up with him  and its a different time. And the sad thing is he doesnt realize there was something wrong with what he said. Just like archie bunker or Trump. Cherry is a Trump supporter by the way. And yesterday Cherry did a interview with Fox news. What a surprise. That tells you everything.lolCan you explain to me what was wrong with what he said?  Was it the "you people" thing?  Because that's the only part of it that I can say looks and sounds potentially questionable.  But me, remembering so many other bad things that were said over the years, I just don't see it.  And maybe that makes me wrong too.  But I guess that "intent" doesn't matter.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.

You're comparing me writing in a General Discussion forum on a message board to Don Chery talking about something other than hockey on a broadcast in which he's being paid to talk about hockey?  I don't get your point at all.  You can be fired by your employer for doing pretty much anything, just like I can get banned from the board.  But I don't think I take S&W as seriously as Cherry takes his job. 

You're also missing the broader context of Cherry (in other forums) going on and on about immigrants being ungrateful and not buying poppies, and freaking out over special LGTB poppies (which turned out not to be a thing).  The underlying message, based on DECADES of tirades, wasn't "I support the military" it was very clearly "I hate ragheads and faggots."  He's said as much tons of times and he's gotten away with it.  This time, he did it while on the job and his employer didn't like it.  I don't see the problem.  I bet he and I agree both agree that bakers shouldn't have to bake cakes for gay weddings, so we should both agree that his employer can fire him for saying controversial shit. 

Bob Costas should've been fired for his gun control rant during a game years ago, for the record.  It was a sickening abomination, much worse than what Cherry did.  So yeah, there's a liberal bias.  But your employer still has the right to fire you or not fire you over whatever they want.

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lobo316 wrote: The pc freaks win again. At least he goes out on his own terms.
He was asked to apologize but refused, unlike that ass kisser Ron MacLean.

Don Cherry offered to apologize and when asked to go further than he was apparently willing to go, whatever that was, he said no and that was it. Despite that exchange, he didn't go out on his own terms when all was said and done. He got fired midseason. Going out on his own terms would mean retiring by his own choice minus any scandal or controversy, whether that meant having a final season of farewells and nostalgia capped by an emotional farewell after the last game of the Stanley Cup Finals or simply announcing quietly in midsummer that it was time to hang it up and that it's been a blast.

I think that Rogers, if not the CBC before it, had probably been wrestling for a long time with the dilemma of wanting Don Cherry gone, but not being able to push out an icon without a backlash. Various minor incidents have occurred through the years and if not for those many prior statements, Don Cherry might have come through this storm had it been a one off thing. However, this was the straw that broke the camel's back as part of content accumulated a lengthy period time. It finally gave his employers the ability to send him packing and be seen as justified by a good portion of people and the media instead of as meanies who unfairly gave Uncle Don the boot by a strong majority.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".



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WongLee wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".I still don't understand the outrage, nor do I understand who he offended and why they would feel offended.  That's probably my fault.  I have zero problem with Cherry getting fired, it's the right of the employer.  Maybe I'm off a step today because of just getting back from a 10-day stay in Florida and waking up to 22 degree Westchester this morning.  But what my main point was, the man said what he said...and when he was told to take it back, he basically said "fuck you, I meant what I said".  We should all appreciate that - it cost him his job, but he was man enough to take the heat. 

Also - I have no beef with Rossi, and being off a step probably caused a poor analogy.  It just surprised me that he piled on when the reality is that most spineless people would've apologized and kissed ass to save their job and Cherry didn't do it.  He's said a lot of worse things over the years, to lose his job over this just seems weak.  And as somebody else said - they ran the show on a delay and replayed it twice.  If it is as bad as they say, the entire production team (or at least their boss) should get the axe too.  I think they were looking for a reason to dump Cherry, and they got one. 



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WongLee wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".

Exactly.  Although you are wrong about one thing.  I was highly offended that Don Cherry actually thinks that Canada has a military.  Quite offensive to real militaries. 

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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".

Exactly.  Although you are wrong about one thing.  I was highly offended that Don Cherry actually thinks that Canada has a military.  Quite offensive to real militaries.
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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: I'm not sure why it's so hard for sportscasters to shut the fuck up about politics and cover sports. I say the same thing about Bob Costas and assholes on the left. This wasn't the forum for Don Cherry to spout his nonsense, and from what I understand the poppy issue he was upset about is fake news and something that isn't even happening. But Cheery has a LONG history of saying stupid shit going back 2 decades, so this was bound to happen in this day and age. I haven't heard anyone who's upset about this move from a hockey perspective and not a political one. The consensus seems to be that he hasn't been good in forever.Dude, do you even read what you write sometimes?  You bring up everything that the police do wrong on a Sports message board.  Yes I know it's different and yes I know that we have a General Discussion forum, but you really shouldn't shit on a guy who has a one minute segment to say whatever he wants and then stand by it...it was his opinion, he got fired for it, and he told the network to fuck off when they demanded an apology.   You and I have gone back and forth about the cops, in a lot of cases I agree with you and in a lot I don't agree with you, but you never back down because you are passionate about the cause.  Don Cherry is passionate about the military, and on Rememberance Day, he made a plea to the people to support them.  I can say to you, or to anybody, that if you were offended by his totally benign statement then you really have issues.  In a day and age when everybody is offended about everything, this one seems totally ridiculous.
And oh by the way, I totally agree with one thing that you said - Don Cherry has said a TON of stupid shit over the years.  He could've been fired a dozen times.  But in my opinion, to fire him now, it's just a way to kick him out the door.
Duuuude, usually you and I think right along the same lines, however, I agree with Rossi 100% here. Cherry has a national stage with millions of viewers. His opinions about anything other than hockey should be kept to himself. Rossi and me and you say our opinions on a message board that has maybe 25 active members. Plus we've all 'known' each other for over ten years.


I don't think Rossi was offended by the comment, I think what he's implying is it wasn't the stage for it. On that I agree completely. Everyone and their mother has a podcast now. Let him start one and let his lead story be how Hitler was misunderstood and a segment that touches on "Mohammed Atta: Bad Guy or Bad Pilot".

Exactly.  Although you are wrong about one thing.  I was highly offended that Don Cherry actually thinks that Canada has a military.  Quite offensive to real militaries. 

The Canadian Military goes in and cleans up after you people ( you like that) shit the bed and make a total mess of things.



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This thread was great till Rossi posted that AA ruined it.

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