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 Posted: Sat Jan 18th, 2020 04:01 am
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Benlen wrote: Tiger Woods?He was definitely an HGH guy, if not an outright juicer which would obviously help his drives tremendously. But the PGA didn't test for PEDs until a few ago so it wasn't technically cheating in my opinion. Unless Benlen was talking about Tiger cheating on his wife. That's a whole nother story.



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Boris Onishenko.

Modern pentathlete. From about 1972 onwards his results in the fencing part started to get better and better. In modern pentathlon you won your fencing bout if you got the first hit, it was basically all sudden death.

In the 1976 Olympics, Onischenko beat Adrian Parker in the British team - and the British coach was somewhat suspicious. Hadn't seen the hit.

Onischenko's next bout was against another Briton. Jim Fox, an experienced modern pentathlete who had been 5th in the '68 Games. So, when Onischenko charged at him, Fox very obviously and deliberately retreated, nowhere near Onischenko or his foil - yet a hit was recorded.

Fox grabbed hold of the foil and refused to let go until officials inspected it. And they found in the handle a button. Whenever Onischenko wanted to register a hit, he pressed it, and it completed the electronic circuit that automatically recorded hits, which was normally only completed when the tip of the foil touched the opponent's outfit.

Onischenko was disqualified, the Soviets along with him, and Britain won the gold. Yay!



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Fred Lorz, the winner of the marathon at the 1904 St. Louis Olympics, until it was discovered that he had traveled 11 miles of the race by car.



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Smokey Yunick, legendary NASCAR car builder and entrant, ran Herb Thomas to a couple of titles in the fifties and even had some success in Indycar racing.

Never met a rule he didn't tweak.

At one NASCAR race, the officials pored over his car, taking all sorts of equipment out, including the fuel tank, and told him they had found nine illegal devices.

"Better make that ten," he said, getting in the tankless car and driving it off...



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Phil Niekro scuffed baseball with emery board

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New England Patriots / Tom Brady for Deflategate
New England Patriots for illegal cameras taping opponents

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Sammy Sosa and the corked bat. Tried to explain it away by saying that he accidentally picked up his batting practice bat:

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Tons of pitchers caught for using illegal substances to increase grip. Apparently, this isn't considered as illegal anymore since better grip = better control and reduces the chance of a batter getting plunked by a fast ball.

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George Brett and the pine tar incident. Is this even a thing anymore? Some batters come to the plate with their bat, helmet, uniform and every other thing slathered in pine tar.

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Big Garea Fan wrote: Phil Niekro scuffed baseball with emery board

Wasn't it Joe?



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Phil Niekro scuffed baseball with emery board

Wasn't it Joe?

It was. Even says so in the title of the YouTube video. My bad...getting old

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Benlen wrote: Dora Ratjen. Was a participant in the 1936 Olympics woman's highjump. Later discovered to be a man Heinrich Ratjen.That would probably be deemed OK by today's standards, and you'd be labeled a hater and anti-gay for even mentioning it.

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kargol wrote: Smokey Yunick, legendary NASCAR car builder and entrant, ran Herb Thomas to a couple of titles in the fifties and even had some success in Indycar racing.

Never met a rule he didn't tweak.

At one NASCAR race, the officials pored over his car, taking all sorts of equipment out, including the fuel tank, and told him they had found nine illegal devices.

"Better make that ten," he said, getting in the tankless car and driving it off...


Gotta throw "The King" Richard Petty into that category also.

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 Leo Durocher & the 1951 Giants

In the summer of 1951, the New York Giants under manager Leo Durocher began to employ an elaborate sign-stealing scheme. The Giants needed to overcome a 13.5-game deficit to the Brooklyn Dodgers to set up a historic playoff. The question is not whether the Giants stole signs, but what effect the sign-stealing had on the Giants' remarkable comeback.
Note: This article appears in the Fall 2012 edition of the "Baseball Research Journal."
Leo Durocher, who is said to have said “nice guys finish last”—also the title of his autobiography— plausibly could have asked, “who said cheaters never prosper?”


I refer, of course, to the revelation by Joshua Prager—first in a 2001 Wall Street Journal article and then his book, The Echoing Green—that in 1951 the New York Giants employed an elaborate sign-stealing scheme. As detailed by Prager, Durocher installed coach Herman Franks in the manager’s office of the Giants’ clubhouse beyond center field in the Polo Grounds to steal opposing catchers’ signals. Franks would look through a telescope and relay the sign through an electrical-buzzer system to the Giants’ bullpen in deep right field, from where the sign would be flashed to the Giants’ hitters.1 The implication of this revelation is that Bobby Thomson might not have tagged Ralph Branca for arguably the most famous decisive home run in baseball history if not for spying, or at the very least that Thomson's date with history would not have come about. The Giants needed to overcome a 13 1/2-game deficit of August 11 to finish the 154-game season in a flatfooted tie with Brooklyn to set up the historic showdown. The question is not whether the Giants stole signs, but what effect the sign-stealing had on the Giants' remarkable comeback.






For the rest of the article, here's the link. It goes into a lot of detail.


https://sabr.org/research/durocher-spymaster-how-much-did-giants-prosper-cheating-1951-finalist


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