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 Posted: Tue Feb 18th, 2020 03:40 pm
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My brain says ‘yes’ but college sports takes away titles and nobody recognizes it as stripped

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Hell no,

every team steals signs, the Astros just got improved the process with technology and got smarter...take the fuckin L you other baseball teams and stop being lazy in your signs switch them shits up during the game and shit and play trickery if you notice it, plenty of teams knew the Astros were advanced in the sign stealing you should have used it against them.

If Cody crybaby would have hit better the Astros would have taken the L in seven games 

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I’m with Krazy Kid but for a different reason.

Stripping the Astros opens the door for ‘but what about this team?’ From the past
You can’t rewrite history or revise the history books (we learned from ‘the steroid scandal’) but I would take the rings back and force the owners to sell the team

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Give everyone a trophy, max contracts and everyone makes the all star team.


Everyone cheats in sports who cares



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Franchise wrote: Give everyone a trophy, max contracts and everyone makes the all star team.


Everyone cheats in sports who cares

The gambling industry. If there's even a whiff that everything's not on the up and up, sports betting will potentially lose hundreds of millions. It's the gambling industry that's really driving this, steroids, and all the things they tried to nail the Patriots on and failed. Not this sanctity of the game horseshit.
But other than gambling, yes I agree. Who cares?



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The less that is done the more it will hurt the game in the long run. Baseball is pretty near unwatchable for me already as it is.



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Angelic Assassin wrote: The less that is done the more it will hurt the game in the long run. Baseball is pretty near unwatchable for me already as it is.
I agree with this- from what I've seen from fan's and athlete's comments is that there is overwhelming disdain for the Astro players for this.   I worry for the Astro's safety if a more stringent penalty isn't enacted.   A slap on the wrist isn't enough.    That's my .02.

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Somebody is starting a class action suit against MLB and the Astros based on the claim that the Astros had no right to increase the price of tickets based on the success of the team because the team blatantly cheated to obtain their status.



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chrob61 wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: The less that is done the more it will hurt the game in the long run. Baseball is pretty near unwatchable for me already as it is.
I agree with this- from what I've seen from fan's and athlete's comments is that there is overwhelming disdain for the Astro players for this.   I worry for the Astro's safety if a more stringent penalty isn't enacted.   A slap on the wrist isn't enough.    That's my .02.

Fake outrage from the players, baseball players are the most bullshit artist of any sports they swear they are on some higher moral ground it is disgusting.

They allow these writers to gas them up and then comes out the bullshit comes out their mouth.
 all teams cheat and have dudes sitting in the stands getting signs, yankees and red sox were accused also, the problem is the beltran updated it and showed the world how it is suppose to be done in 2010s 
https://www.sny.tv/yankees/news/what-are-the-yankees-accused-of-in-sign-stealing-scandal-and-what-are-the-facts/312352288
and trust me it wasn't just these two teams and look at the years 

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krazykid18 wrote: chrob61 wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: The less that is done the more it will hurt the game in the long run. Baseball is pretty near unwatchable for me already as it is.
I agree with this- from what I've seen from fan's and athlete's comments is that there is overwhelming disdain for the Astro players for this.   I worry for the Astro's safety if a more stringent penalty isn't enacted.   A slap on the wrist isn't enough.    That's my .02.

Fake outrage from the players, baseball players are the most bullshit artist of any sports they swear they are on some higher moral ground it is disgusting.

They allow these writers to gas them up and then comes out the bullshit comes out their mouth.
 all teams cheat and have dudes sitting in the stands getting signs, yankees and red sox were accused also, the problem is the beltran updated it and showed the world how it is suppose to be done in 2010s 
https://www.sny.tv/yankees/news/what-are-the-yankees-accused-of-in-sign-stealing-scandal-and-what-are-the-facts/312352288
and trust me it wasn't just these two teams and look at the years
I agree with virtually everything you posted her KK. The wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth is so phony. These guys didn't machine gun a school bus filled with African orphans and beagle puppies. Who gives a fuck? To me it's similar to steroids, you still have to swing the bat and hit the ball. That's hard...very hard. Some of you may have heard me mention on here that my wife is from Texas and a huge Astros fan. Literally days before this went down I bought her a high quality Jose Altuve jersey. We're going to see the Astros take on my Metsies in June. I hope she doesn't get beat up....who am I kidding, Fedor in his prime couldn't beat her up.



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Would self policing be the answer? In this case you dont take away the Astro's championship you take away the money the players earned, which in the Astro's case was close to $500,000.

Guy gets caught using a corked bat? Entire team forfeits a day's pay. Scuff the ball and get caught? Everyone pays for one player's action.

I really do think that the modern player in any sport only understands one thing, and that's money.

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I don't get how the Astros were able to keep up the charade without their players (especially their former players) talking about it.

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Some great points



BGF - Yep. And no former players badmouth the Patriots and if there's one team that you think to yourself 'They are so well prepared'



DFG - He's right about the gambling. These leagues charge an 'integrity fee' to the sportsbooks in exchange for a piece of the action. This stuff can't happen. The games have to be level. It's in the best interest of both sides.

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Big Garea Fan wrote: I don't get how the Astros were able to keep up the charade without their players (especially their former players) talking about it.
In the end, they weren't.  



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Well it's only a hunk of metal after all.



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