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The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

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Wow. I have a Gretzky rookie. I'd be happy to get $100 for it.



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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
The person who bought the Topps card was smart.  The person who bought the O-Pee-Chee was not.  Yes, I know that OPC cards in any sport right up to 1991 were more limited than Topps.  But every attempt at reprinting the Topps has failed.  To be honest, there were 30-40 different tries at reprinting the OPC over the years and about three were so convincing that really nobody knows what is original and what isn’t unless they pulled it out of a pack.  If that one has full documentation of being pack pulled, the guy did alright.  But anybody in the hobby since the ‘80s knows you don’t touch that card with a ten foot pole unless you are dead nuts certain, and something about the back of that one didn’t mesh with me.  I’ve opened those packs and know it didn’t seem “right”.  And PSA can be bought into giving you a 10 grade...the more you spend the better you get.  
Another thing, don’t buy loose 1984 Fleer Update baseball cards unless you see them come out of the set box.  A Fleer employee took the plates and reprinted thousands of them in 1988/89 and since he used Fleer stock you simply couldn’t tell the difference.  Same thing holds true for 1986/87 Fleer Basketball, same deal and same employee.
I sold cards from 1981 until 1994 and made a shit ton of money on them.  I’ve seen TONS of dirty shit, starting as an 11 year old and the 1971 Topps would get their borders colored with a Marks A Lot to fill in the white spots.  Marks A Lot didnt gloss like Sharpie. 



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Superstar wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
The person who bought the Topps card was smart.  The person who bought the O-Pee-Chee was not.  Yes, I know that OPC cards in any sport right up to 1991 were more limited than Topps.  But every attempt at reprinting the Topps has failed.  To be honest, there were 30-40 different tries at reprinting the OPC over the years and about three were so convincing that really nobody knows what is original and what isn’t unless they pulled it out of a pack.  If that one has full documentation of being pack pulled, the guy did alright.  But anybody in the hobby since the ‘80s knows you don’t touch that card with a ten foot pole unless you are dead nuts certain, and something about the back of that one didn’t mesh with me.  I’ve opened those packs and know it didn’t seem “right”.  And PSA can be bought into giving you a 10 grade...the more you spend the better you get.  
Another thing, don’t buy loose 1984 Fleer Update baseball cards unless you see them come out of the set box.  A Fleer employee took the plates and reprinted thousands of them in 1988/89 and since he used Fleer stock you simply couldn’t tell the difference.  Same thing holds true for 1986/87 Fleer Basketball, same deal and same employee.
I sold cards from 1981 until 1994 and made a shit ton of money on them.  I’ve seen TONS of dirty shit, starting as an 11 year old and the 1971 Topps would get their borders colored with a Marks A Lot to fill in the white spots.  Marks A Lot didnt gloss like Sharpie. 

It's the main reason why these days you wouldn't/shouldn't buy any sort of expensive card unless it is graded.

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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: Superstar wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
The person who bought the Topps card was smart.  The person who bought the O-Pee-Chee was not.  Yes, I know that OPC cards in any sport right up to 1991 were more limited than Topps.  But every attempt at reprinting the Topps has failed.  To be honest, there were 30-40 different tries at reprinting the OPC over the years and about three were so convincing that really nobody knows what is original and what isn’t unless they pulled it out of a pack.  If that one has full documentation of being pack pulled, the guy did alright.  But anybody in the hobby since the ‘80s knows you don’t touch that card with a ten foot pole unless you are dead nuts certain, and something about the back of that one didn’t mesh with me.  I’ve opened those packs and know it didn’t seem “right”.  And PSA can be bought into giving you a 10 grade...the more you spend the better you get.  
Another thing, don’t buy loose 1984 Fleer Update baseball cards unless you see them come out of the set box.  A Fleer employee took the plates and reprinted thousands of them in 1988/89 and since he used Fleer stock you simply couldn’t tell the difference.  Same thing holds true for 1986/87 Fleer Basketball, same deal and same employee.
I sold cards from 1981 until 1994 and made a shit ton of money on them.  I’ve seen TONS of dirty shit, starting as an 11 year old and the 1971 Topps would get their borders colored with a Marks A Lot to fill in the white spots.  Marks A Lot didnt gloss like Sharpie. 

It's the main reason why these days you wouldn't/shouldn't buy any sort of expensive card unless it is graded.


Even then... I watched a guy on the Youtubes who opens vintage boxes.  He had a certified box that was clearly searched.  No stars- could happen.  No league leaders cards- could happen.  No checklists either? Hmmmm   That seems suspicious that there isn't at least one of those cards in 36 packs.  Add in that some of the cards were backward, some packs were wrinkled, and some packs were barely sealed pretty much guarantees it was searched.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: Superstar wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
The person who bought the Topps card was smart.  The person who bought the O-Pee-Chee was not.  Yes, I know that OPC cards in any sport right up to 1991 were more limited than Topps.  But every attempt at reprinting the Topps has failed.  To be honest, there were 30-40 different tries at reprinting the OPC over the years and about three were so convincing that really nobody knows what is original and what isn’t unless they pulled it out of a pack.  If that one has full documentation of being pack pulled, the guy did alright.  But anybody in the hobby since the ‘80s knows you don’t touch that card with a ten foot pole unless you are dead nuts certain, and something about the back of that one didn’t mesh with me.  I’ve opened those packs and know it didn’t seem “right”.  And PSA can be bought into giving you a 10 grade...the more you spend the better you get.  
Another thing, don’t buy loose 1984 Fleer Update baseball cards unless you see them come out of the set box.  A Fleer employee took the plates and reprinted thousands of them in 1988/89 and since he used Fleer stock you simply couldn’t tell the difference.  Same thing holds true for 1986/87 Fleer Basketball, same deal and same employee.
I sold cards from 1981 until 1994 and made a shit ton of money on them.  I’ve seen TONS of dirty shit, starting as an 11 year old and the 1971 Topps would get their borders colored with a Marks A Lot to fill in the white spots.  Marks A Lot didnt gloss like Sharpie. 

It's the main reason why these days you wouldn't/shouldn't buy any sort of expensive card unless it is graded.


Even then... I watched a guy on the Youtubes who opens vintage boxes.  He had a certified box that was clearly searched.  No stars- could happen.  No league leaders cards- could happen.  No checklists either? Hmmmm   That seems suspicious that there isn't at least one of those cards in 36 packs.  Add in that some of the cards were backward, some packs were wrinkled, and some packs were barely sealed pretty much guarantees it was searched.

Was it certified from the Baseball Card Exchange? 

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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: Superstar wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
The person who bought the Topps card was smart.  The person who bought the O-Pee-Chee was not.  Yes, I know that OPC cards in any sport right up to 1991 were more limited than Topps.  But every attempt at reprinting the Topps has failed.  To be honest, there were 30-40 different tries at reprinting the OPC over the years and about three were so convincing that really nobody knows what is original and what isn’t unless they pulled it out of a pack.  If that one has full documentation of being pack pulled, the guy did alright.  But anybody in the hobby since the ‘80s knows you don’t touch that card with a ten foot pole unless you are dead nuts certain, and something about the back of that one didn’t mesh with me.  I’ve opened those packs and know it didn’t seem “right”.  And PSA can be bought into giving you a 10 grade...the more you spend the better you get.  
Another thing, don’t buy loose 1984 Fleer Update baseball cards unless you see them come out of the set box.  A Fleer employee took the plates and reprinted thousands of them in 1988/89 and since he used Fleer stock you simply couldn’t tell the difference.  Same thing holds true for 1986/87 Fleer Basketball, same deal and same employee.
I sold cards from 1981 until 1994 and made a shit ton of money on them.  I’ve seen TONS of dirty shit, starting as an 11 year old and the 1971 Topps would get their borders colored with a Marks A Lot to fill in the white spots.  Marks A Lot didnt gloss like Sharpie. 

It's the main reason why these days you wouldn't/shouldn't buy any sort of expensive card unless it is graded.


Even then... I watched a guy on the Youtubes who opens vintage boxes.  He had a certified box that was clearly searched.  No stars- could happen.  No league leaders cards- could happen.  No checklists either? Hmmmm   That seems suspicious that there isn't at least one of those cards in 36 packs.  Add in that some of the cards were backward, some packs were wrinkled, and some packs were barely sealed pretty much guarantees it was searched.

Was it certified from the Baseball Card Exchange? 

Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBHyODQkXio&t=2s



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: Superstar wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: The PSA 10 OPC Gretzky Rookie went for $1,290,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-o-pee-chee-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58423.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

The PSA 10 Topps Gretzky Rookie went for $720,000
https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/1979-topps-wayne-gretzky-18-rookie-psa-gem-mint-10-population-two-/a/50031-58422.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
The person who bought the Topps card was smart.  The person who bought the O-Pee-Chee was not.  Yes, I know that OPC cards in any sport right up to 1991 were more limited than Topps.  But every attempt at reprinting the Topps has failed.  To be honest, there were 30-40 different tries at reprinting the OPC over the years and about three were so convincing that really nobody knows what is original and what isn’t unless they pulled it out of a pack.  If that one has full documentation of being pack pulled, the guy did alright.  But anybody in the hobby since the ‘80s knows you don’t touch that card with a ten foot pole unless you are dead nuts certain, and something about the back of that one didn’t mesh with me.  I’ve opened those packs and know it didn’t seem “right”.  And PSA can be bought into giving you a 10 grade...the more you spend the better you get.  
Another thing, don’t buy loose 1984 Fleer Update baseball cards unless you see them come out of the set box.  A Fleer employee took the plates and reprinted thousands of them in 1988/89 and since he used Fleer stock you simply couldn’t tell the difference.  Same thing holds true for 1986/87 Fleer Basketball, same deal and same employee.
I sold cards from 1981 until 1994 and made a shit ton of money on them.  I’ve seen TONS of dirty shit, starting as an 11 year old and the 1971 Topps would get their borders colored with a Marks A Lot to fill in the white spots.  Marks A Lot didnt gloss like Sharpie. 

It's the main reason why these days you wouldn't/shouldn't buy any sort of expensive card unless it is graded.


Even then... I watched a guy on the Youtubes who opens vintage boxes.  He had a certified box that was clearly searched.  No stars- could happen.  No league leaders cards- could happen.  No checklists either? Hmmmm   That seems suspicious that there isn't at least one of those cards in 36 packs.  Add in that some of the cards were backward, some packs were wrinkled, and some packs were barely sealed pretty much guarantees it was searched.

Was it certified from the Baseball Card Exchange? 

Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBHyODQkXio&t=2s

I saw the responses in the comment section on what players weren't pulled. Very, very surprised as they have a great reputation in the industry.

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