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 Posted: Sat Feb 21st, 2009 12:18 pm
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A frequent complaint is that there are too many teams in pro sports and that the talent is watered down. So what major professional sports teams would you lose if you could just snap your fingers and wipe some out?

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Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins, Kansas City Royals, Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets (or whatever they are called).    T he NFL and NBA don't seem to have any obvious teams to fold.  Too early to tell on The Thunder.

The Nats are on the death list but I am not ready to pull the trigger.  There is a reason why baseball failed twice in DC.

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NBA - No need for Oklahoma City. Or the Clippers.

NFL - Arizona - gotta go. Jacksonville - why? You have Atlanta and Tampa already.

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beejmi wrote: NBA - No need for Oklahoma City. Or the Clippers.

NFL - Arizona - gotta go. Jacksonville - why? You have Atlanta and Tampa already.

Agree on the Clippers.  I forgot about them.  Timing might be a tad bit difficult to fold the Cards.   I always thought Jacksonville was a strange place to have a NFL team so I guess I could go with that.

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If the Nuttings remain the owners of the Pirates, I would be in favor in getting rid of the team.  This ownership group is the biggest sham to come down the pike in quite awhile.  They have no idea on how to run a sports franchise and truly do not want to know how to run a successful franchise.  The only hope that Pirates fans have is that they contrinued their greed-filled plan and sell the team.

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Ultimark wrote: Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins, Kansas City Royals, Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets (or whatever they are called).    T he NFL and NBA don't seem to have any obvious teams to fold.  Too early to tell on The Thunder.

The Nats are on the death list but I am not ready to pull the trigger.  There is a reason why baseball failed twice in DC.

The Nationals had a better attendence record than the A's last year. If they should go the A's should too.



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Benlen wrote: Ultimark wrote: Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins, Kansas City Royals, Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets (or whatever they are called).    T he NFL and NBA don't seem to have any obvious teams to fold.  Too early to tell on The Thunder.

The Nats are on the death list but I am not ready to pull the trigger.  There is a reason why baseball failed twice in DC.

The Nationals had a better attendence record than the A's last year. If they should go the A's should too.


Ben,

I am thinking about the future also.  The Nats attendance, despite a shiny new stadium, is still not that good.  Let's see what happens to the A's when they get their new ball park.  The Nats attendance would be even worse if the fans of the Phils and Mets did not travel by the thousands to DC to watch their home teams play.

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Ultimark wrote: Benlen wrote: Ultimark wrote: Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins, Kansas City Royals, Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets (or whatever they are called).    T he NFL and NBA don't seem to have any obvious teams to fold.  Too early to tell on The Thunder.

The Nats are on the death list but I am not ready to pull the trigger.  There is a reason why baseball failed twice in DC.

The Nationals had a better attendence record than the A's last year. If they should go the A's should too.


Ben,

I am thinking about the future also.  The Nats attendance, despite a shiny new stadium, is still not that good.  Let's see what happens to the A's when they get their new ball park.  The Nats attendance would be even worse if the fans of the Phils and Mets did not travel by the thousands to DC to watch their home teams play.

A little more on the Nats.  I would have expected at least 2.5m for attendance last year based on the new ballpark alone.  This year, unless they begin to really compete, they probably will wind up below 2 million.   It will get worse if they don't turn things around soon.  I hear they have a lot of studs in the minors so hopefully they can hang in there for a while.

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I can't pull the plug on the A's or Pirates just based on tradition.

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Ultimark wrote: Benlen wrote: Ultimark wrote: Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins, Kansas City Royals, Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets (or whatever they are called).    T he NFL and NBA don't seem to have any obvious teams to fold.  Too early to tell on The Thunder.

The Nats are on the death list but I am not ready to pull the trigger.  There is a reason why baseball failed twice in DC.

The Nationals had a better attendence record than the A's last year. If they should go the A's should too.


Ben,

I am thinking about the future also.  The Nats attendance, despite a shiny new stadium, is still not that good.  Let's see what happens to the A's when they get their new ball park.  The Nats attendance would be even worse if the fans of the Phils and Mets did not travel by the thousands to DC to watch their home teams play.


I personally don't think the A's will get a new stadium in the Bay Area. I think they have a better chance of getting a new stadium if the move to Sacramento.

As Crappy as the Nationals play the last 4 years they have out drew the A's even when they were at RFK stadium.



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The Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody gives a shit, we cared about the Hornets. The Hornets should have never left. Now they are losing money like crazy, nobody comes to see them in New Orleans, and nobody comes to see the Bobcats in Charlotte. Bunch of bullshit. Fuck George Shinn.



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Married Jo wrote: The Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody gives a shit, we cared about the Hornets. The Hornets should have never left. Now they are losing money like crazy, nobody comes to see them in New Orleans, and nobody comes to see the Bobcats in Charlotte. Bunch of bullshit. Fuck George Shinn.
While we're on the topic, why are the Utah Jazz still "the Jazz".  Mormons don't know anything about the genre.
Why are the Hornets know in New Orleans?  Why not rename them the Jazz?

Makes little sense.

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beejmi wrote: I can't pull the plug on the A's or Pirates just based on tradition.

You are correct, beej, but this ownership can continue on and on with this style of management.  They are not looking for large profits.  The only saving grace is that many believe that the Nuttings are putting alot of money into paying down the debt of the team, and thus, making it more appealing for buyers. 

The only bad thing now is the economy.  The cheap bastards that the Nuttings are, they will want top dollar for the franchise despite the recession/depression taking place.  I mean they took over a bad franchise and continue to run the thing into the ground.  They refuse to open their books and they have continued to make profit without hardly investing any money back into the team.



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All the southern and western hockey teams in the US.  Ship them to Canada or a northern city that will watch them.

All the NBA teams that were created in the 90's or later.  Fuck em.



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Married Jo wrote: The Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody gives a shit, we cared about the Hornets. The Hornets should have never left. Now they are losing money like crazy, nobody comes to see them in New Orleans, and nobody comes to see the Bobcats in Charlotte. Bunch of bullshit. Fuck George Shinn.


Actually, the Hornets have excellent attendance numbers in NOLA since mid-way through last season, a little before all-star break, when the Hornets caught fire.  They've had quite a few sell-outs in the last year. 

Before that it wasn't good, but they actually rank 8th right now in percentage of capacity that they fill on a nightly basis. Their arena is one of the smaller ones, so they are about middle of the pack in total attendance, but they've filled an average of 97.5 pct of the building per night this season and were having sell-out after sell-out in the second half of last season.

They seemed to be on their death until middle of last season when the team finally caught fire with the fans, but they are a hot item in NOLA right now.

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