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 Posted: Sat Feb 21st, 2009 10:10 pm
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HBF wrote: Married Jo wrote: The Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody gives a shit, we cared about the Hornets. The Hornets should have never left. Now they are losing money like crazy, nobody comes to see them in New Orleans, and nobody comes to see the Bobcats in Charlotte. Bunch of bullshit. Fuck George Shinn.
While we're on the topic, why are the Utah Jazz still "the Jazz".  Mormons don't know anything about the genre.
Why are the Hornets know in New Orleans?  Why not rename them the Jazz?

Makes little sense.


I agree, New Orleans should have kept the Jazz name.  There were rumors that the ownership group that had worked out a deal to buy the Timberwolves back in 94 were negotiating with Utah for the name and colors, but the NBA blocked the sale and kept the team in Minneapolis.  I don't remember talk about it when the Hornets came. It seems like people were talking about it the year before when many thought we'd be getting the Grizzlies, though my memory could be playing tricks on me.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 21st, 2009 10:44 pm
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The Phoenix Coyotes are hanging on by a thread no matter what Gary Buttman tells you. His problem is if he admits defeat and the team contracts there, it might start a domino-effect that will see a lot of the southern NHL teams that are hanging on by two or three threads tumble in the short-term as well.

Bettman's legacy is expansion into those markets, and if they go, so does his legacy.

Long-time hockey fans mostly (all?) think Bettman is an ass and he's gonna end up getting what he paid for. In the end the NHL will be better off for the contractions that seem almost inevitable now.



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BayouBoogie wrote:
HBF wrote: Married Jo wrote: The Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody gives a shit, we cared about the Hornets. The Hornets should have never left. Now they are losing money like crazy, nobody comes to see them in New Orleans, and nobody comes to see the Bobcats in Charlotte. Bunch of bullshit. Fuck George Shinn.
While we're on the topic, why are the Utah Jazz still "the Jazz".  Mormons don't know anything about the genre.
Why are the Hornets know in New Orleans?  Why not rename them the Jazz?

Makes little sense.


I agree, New Orleans should have kept the Jazz name.  There were rumors that the ownership group that had worked out a deal to buy the Timberwolves back in 94 were negotiating with Utah for the name and colors, but the NBA blocked the sale and kept the team in Minneapolis.  I don't remember talk about it when the Hornets came. It seems like people were talking about it the year before when many thought we'd be getting the Grizzlies, though my memory could be playing tricks on me.


When the Jazz were purchased and moved to Utah, part of the stipulations, for some bizarre reason, were that they keep the Jazz name.

I think that boxing promoter Bob Arum was part of the group that wanted to purchase the Minnesota Timberwolves and move them to New Orleans. I don't remember anything about a name change, although it's possible.

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At least a dozen in the NHL. The Florida Marlins, Memphis Grizzlies & Oklahoma City Thunder.

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As much as I like hockey, I don't think the Thrashers are all that a successful an experiment the second time around.  They have a small but loyal base, which I am happy to see, but they really should be doing better both on the ice and financially.
Instead, they have not had a winning program (except for one year, whereby they traded for every old guy on the block) and they have a terrible ownership situation that is a major legal undertaking.

I'd be surprised if they are around 10 years from now.



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Benlen wrote: Ultimark wrote: Pittsburgh Pirates, Florida Marlins, Kansas City Royals, Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets (or whatever they are called).    T he NFL and NBA don't seem to have any obvious teams to fold.  Too early to tell on The Thunder.

The Nats are on the death list but I am not ready to pull the trigger.  There is a reason why baseball failed twice in DC.

The Nationals had a better attendence record than the A's last year. If they should go the A's should too.

The A's are profitable.  Contract the Giants, they piss buckets of money.

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NBA - No need for Oklahoma City. Or the Clippers.

NFL - Arizona - gotta go.


They went. All the way to the Super Bowl.



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I think teams that just recently moved like the Nationals and the Thunder need a few years to take root with their new base, and the new stadium in DC will probably ensure the team stays around for a while. I wouldn't be surprised to see more people attending Nats games now that they're out of RFK which was the last of the horrible-for-baseball 70's cookie cutter stadiums.


I agree with the hawkster that there's a ton of NHL teams that should probably be circling the bowl right now. It was just insanity to add so many teams in non hockey markets at a time where the game should have been focused on getting a better foothold in the US sports conscience. Now the NHL is still the #3 or #4 sport in most of their cities and probably 1/3rd of their teams are in cities where no one gives a shit.



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BuddyPSHayes wrote: beejmi wrote:
NBA - No need for Oklahoma City. Or the Clippers.

NFL - Arizona - gotta go.


They went. All the way to the Super Bowl.

Great one Super Bowl appearance in how many years and they are untouchable now? Pro football in Arizona has been a miserable failure.

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beejmi wrote:
BuddyPSHayes wrote: beejmi wrote:
NBA - No need for Oklahoma City. Or the Clippers.

NFL - Arizona - gotta go.


They went. All the way to the Super Bowl.

Great one Super Bowl appearance in how many years and they are untouchable now? Pro football in Arizona has been a miserable failure.


They have as many championships as the Eagles, let's get rid of them too.



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No the answer isn't "championships" on this one - they have yet to establish a fan base even after twenty years there.

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The Cards operarated at 101.1 % attendance this year

You have teams like Detroit who were at 83.8, Chicago at 92.7, Buffalo at 89.2, Atlanta at 89.9 and Miami at 87.0

 

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They have had one good year in the past twenty. The Cowboys or Steelers come to town and enjoy a home game away from home.  An embarassment.

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In 2007 they were 101.9 %

In 2006 they were 100.3 %

Prior to that they played in that shithole in Tempe. Seems like with the move to the new stadium they have turned things around.

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Charlotte Bobcats-Why would you put a team there, after the first one failed?

Portland Trailblazers-Just because they suck.

LA Clippers-need i say more? have they even had 1 winning season?

 

 

In regards to the Marlins-Why would you disband a team that's won 2 ws, and been more successful than some long time teams?

 

The Washington Nationals need to be gone. baseball in Washington died out in the 60's, why would you put another team there?



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