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Every pro sports team has had at least one youngster on its roster that it traded or cut while the guy was nothing, only to see the kid become a good player or even a superstar somewhere else. Here are some Minnesota versions.

Minnesota Twins: Graig Nettles was drafted and groomed by the Twins. However after only 121 games and 12 home runs spread out over 3 seasons, the Twins traded him to Cleveland (in part for Luis Tiant, another sad Twins story). He had some good years there and then moved on to the Yankees where he became a 5 time All Star.

Minnesota Timberwolves: Chauncey Billups was on his 4th team in 4 NBA seasons when he came to the Wolves and it wasn't certain as to whether he'd make it or become one of those draft busts who plays out his days in Italy or Turkey. The Wolves gave up after 2 seasons and let him go to Detroit as a free agent. Then, of course, he broke out.

What are your team's versions?

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Rynne Sandberg AND Larry Bowa from the Philly to the Cubs for Ivan DeJesus.

Dealt Rynne Sandberg because we didn't think he could play shortstop.

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In 1918 the Yankees traded young Urban Shocker to the Browns for washed-up HOFer Eddie Plank, who already had more than 300 wins, and Del Pratt.  Pratt was a pretty good hitter but Shocker won 20 games 4 years in a row before the Yanks traded to get him back.  He was the best pitcher on the best team ever, the 1927 Yankees.

In 1981 the Yankees traded Willie McGee to the Cardinals for Bob Sykes.  McGee went on to appear in numerous All-Star Games and was the 1985 NL MVP while Sykes...

In 1982 the Yankees traded Fred McGriff to the Blue Jays for Dale Murray.  McGriff went on to have a borderline HOF career while Murray actually had a decent 1983 season but then fell apart.

In 1987 the Yankees traded Bob Tewksbury to the Cubs for Steve Trout.  Tewksbury had a very solid career and Trout struggled to keep his ERA under 6.00.

And of course in 1988 there was Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps, a bad trade although not as bad as these others, but it gives me an excuse to quote Frank Costanza.  "What the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for?  He had 30 home runs, over 100 RBIs last year! He's got a rocket for an arm!  You don't know what the hell you're doing!" 

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Some Cubs woes:

Didn't resign Greg Maddux after he won a Cy with them. Ugh.

Antonio Alfonseca for Dontrelle Willis. Eww.

Recently, Mark DeRosa for a grab bag of Indians rejects.

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Yankees:
In the 1950's, the Yankees had a surplus of young OF'ers and traded a young Jackie Jensen to the Red Sox, where he won the 1958 MVP.

Traded Mike Lowell for Ed Yarnall in 1998, because they had just picked up Scott Brosius.  It might have been nice to have him around from 2002-now.

NY Rangers:
Sergei Zubov-along with Brian Leetch, gives the Blueshirts a killer PowerPlay in the 1994 playoffs.  Don't remember why, how, or who they ditched him for, but it seems like a really bad deal all of these years later.



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A big loss for the Twins was David Ortiz. The Twins never gave him the freedom to swing away and he couldn't adapt to the methodical approach the club wanted its hitters to take. After several on and off seasons between 1997 and 2002, it didn't look like he'd amount to anything more than the 20 HRs and 75 RBIs of his last season here.

I even remember, late in 2002, saying to a buddy who still had high hopes for Ortiz, "He's been here for 6 years and he's 26. He's not a prospect anymore. He's a player and a player who will never get much better than he is now."

Big mistake on my part and an even bigger mistake by the Twins when they let him leave for the Red Sox. However Ortiz may have done it, the Red Sox got a 5 time All Star, 4 time Silver Slugger, 2 time World Series winner, and a guy who you could argue deserved an MVP award somewhere along the line. The Twins got nothing.

Edited to add that Ortiz originally started in the Mariners system, but in 1996 they traded him to Minnesota for Dave Hollins.

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I don't think Birmingham City ever have had anyone like that.  Nigel Winterburn is the only one that comes to mind.  Shows how much our scouting suxxorz.



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The Washington Bullets/Wizards - traded away 3 players that they drafted that would become the nucleus of the Detroit Pistons Championship Team - Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace and Richard Hamilton.


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The Cubs traded Lou Brock to the Cardinals for washed up pitcher Ernie Broglio.



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clawmaster wrote: The Cubs traded Lou Brock to the Cardinals for washed up pitcher Ernie Broglio.

This trade is quite possibly the worst of all time.

The BoSox trading Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson may be the second worst trade of all time.



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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: clawmaster wrote: The Cubs traded Lou Brock to the Cardinals for washed up pitcher Ernie Broglio.

This trade is quite possibly the worst of all time.

The BoSox trading Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson may be the second worst trade of all time.
Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi is one that tops both of them.



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HBF wrote: NY Rangers:
Sergei Zubov-along with Brian Leetch, gives the Blueshirts a killer PowerPlay in the 1994 playoffs.  Don't remember why, how, or who they ditched him for, but it seems like a really bad deal all of these years later.




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Pittsburgh Penguins traded Ulf Samuelsson and Luc Robitaille to the New York Rangers for Petr Nedved and Sergei Zubov.


You are right - horrible deal for the Rangers.



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HBF wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: clawmaster wrote: The Cubs traded Lou Brock to the Cardinals for washed up pitcher Ernie Broglio.

This trade is quite possibly the worst of all time.

The BoSox trading Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson may be the second worst trade of all time.
Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi is one that tops both of them.

Good one.  That's definitely ahead of Bagwell.  I think it goes 1/1a with Brock.



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Locked in a tight AL East race with the Toronto Blue Jays, on August 12, 1987, the Detroit Tigers made a deal to get Doyle Alexander. This was actually a brilliant trade in the short run. After coming to Detroit from the Atlanta Braves, Doyle went 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA, 3 complete games, and 3 shut outs. The Tigers won the AL East by 2 games over Toronto, although the Tigers lost to the Twins 4-1 in the ALCS with Doyle Alexander going 0-2 in the series.

Unfortunately for the Tigers, the trade had terrible long term ramifications. The minor leaguer they sent to the Atlanta Braves in the deal was none other than John Smoltz.

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Toronto Blue Jays

1988 - sell the rights to Cecil Fielder to the Hanshin Tigers, since they already have
Fred McGriff at first base. After a year in Japan, big Cecil returns to the majors &
hits over 50 homers with the Detroit Tigers.

1992 - trade Jeff Kent to the Mets for David Cone.

2002 - release Chris Carpenter, who later would win the Cy Young award
with the cardinals

Chicago Black Hawks - trade a young centerman who scored over 20 goals,  in an era when 20 goals meant something,  to the Bruins.  The player, who centered a line with Bobby Hull blossomed in Boston. Said Hull, "they just traded away my right arm"
A heart-breaking trade for all Black Hawk fans. I can't bring myself to mention
the player's name.

 

 

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