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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=hp_t1

I don't even know what to say. I have a daughter in elementary school. Need some details, but this is way fucked up!



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I think 'fucked up' is being generous.  This is horrible.



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thunderbolt wrote: I think 'fucked up' is being generous.  This is horrible.
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Apparently there was a second "person of interest" who's now in custody. I hope his death is as long and painful as possible.

Sorry, but I feel the need to reiterate: we need to make guns harder to get, somehow. And Bob Costas' editorial was on the fucking money, no matter how many "Here's how many people are killed by cars" or "here's how many children got knifed in China" statistics someone cares to throw out. Is the DON'T TAKE AWAY MY GUNS lobby going to suggest arming fucking teachers and students?

Don't tell me "This isn't the time," either. Yes, it fucking is.

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27 people dead, 14 of them kids, and the number keeps climbing. A friend who works for the board of ed in a neighboring town, they're all on lock down, told me it was almost 30 kids, but they might have confused the total number dead with the kids.

They also won't confirm a second gunman, but are looking for a purple or blue van and telling the press to stay out of the woods in the area.

 

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PeteF3 wrote: Apparently there was a second "person of interest" who's now in custody. I hope his death is as long and painful as possible.

Sorry, but I feel the need to reiterate: we need to make guns harder to get, somehow. And Bob Costas' editorial was on the fucking money, no matter how many "Here's how many people are killed by cars" or "here's how many children got knifed in China" statistics someone cares to throw out. Is the DON'T TAKE AWAY MY GUNS lobby going to suggest arming fucking teachers and students?

Don't tell me "This isn't the time," either. Yes, it fucking is.

Probably not surprising coming from me, but I wholeheartedly agree.  This country, our prioities and idealologies are so fucked up, it's beyond comprehension.  It just boggles my mind.

I am legitimately shaken up by this.  Like Eric, I too have two kids in Elementary School, and the demographics of Newtown aren't too dissimilar from the town I live in.



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A very sad day indeed.

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Fucking horrible. Thoughts are with the families of all those involved.



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ABC is reporting 27 shot 18 of them kids :(



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PeteF3 wrote: Apparently there was a second "person of interest" who's now in custody. I hope his death is as long and painful as possible.


If I was one of those cops he would not be in "Custody". I wouldnt give a shit what happen to me. He would be in hell with is partner.



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PeteF3 wrote:
Apparently there was a second "person of interest" who's now in custody. I hope his death is as long and painful as possible.

Sorry, but I feel the need to reiterate: we need to make guns harder to get, somehow. And Bob Costas' editorial was on the fucking money, no matter how many "Here's how many people are killed by cars" or "here's how many children got knifed in China" statistics someone cares to throw out. Is the DON'T TAKE AWAY MY GUNS lobby going to suggest arming fucking teachers and students?

Don't tell me "This isn't the time," either. Yes, it fucking is.


I would wholeheartedly agree with this except for one, simple fact.

If you make guns harder to get, it's not going to affect these gun runners. It's not going to affect gang bangers. It's not going to affect terrorists. It's only going to affect normal people whom are trying to use guns responsibly to protect their families and property.

Guns could be completely outlawed and I could almost promise that gun violence won't go down. The only death rate that would go down from this is legitimate 'self defense' cases.



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Hymie Itsu wrote: PeteF3 wrote:
Apparently there was a second "person of interest" who's now in custody. I hope his death is as long and painful as possible.

Sorry, but I feel the need to reiterate: we need to make guns harder to get, somehow. And Bob Costas' editorial was on the fucking money, no matter how many "Here's how many people are killed by cars" or "here's how many children got knifed in China" statistics someone cares to throw out. Is the DON'T TAKE AWAY MY GUNS lobby going to suggest arming fucking teachers and students?

Don't tell me "This isn't the time," either. Yes, it fucking is.


I would wholeheartedly agree with this except for one, simple fact.

If you make guns harder to get, it's not going to affect these gun runners. It's not going to affect gang bangers. It's not going to affect terrorists. It's only going to affect normal people whom are trying to use guns responsibly to protect their families and property.

Guns could be completely outlawed and I could almost promise that gun violence won't go down. The only death rate that would go down from this is legitimate 'self defense' cases.

Keep all your guns then.  Just outlaw the manufacturing of bullets.  Problem solved.



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bpickering wrote: ABC is reporting 27 shot 18 of them kids :(
27 includes the killer



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PeteF3 wrote: Apparently there was a second "person of interest" who's now in custody. I hope his death is as long and painful as possible.

Sorry, but I feel the need to reiterate: we need to make guns harder to get, somehow. And Bob Costas' editorial was on the fucking money, no matter how many "Here's how many people are killed by cars" or "here's how many children got knifed in China" statistics someone cares to throw out. Is the DON'T TAKE AWAY MY GUNS lobby going to suggest arming fucking teachers and students?

Don't tell me "This isn't the time," either. Yes, it fucking is.

I think another contributing factor to these incidents is that the criminal justice system does not adequately deal with criminals with mental defects. If a person is found guilty of a crime but is found to be mentally defective, he is often given a shorter prison sentence (if the sentence is not suspended entirely) and then mandated to complete some sort of mental health counseling / treatment. Sadly, the mental health system is just as broken as the criminal justice system and the offender typically skates through it or is somehow lost in the system.

Often times, the people who commit these crimes have had previous run-ins with the law or have been identified as potential dangers by others (school teachers, neighbors, etc.). Sadly, even if they commit a crime, it is hard to protect society from them.  

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Shooters mother worked as a teacher at the school...she is one of the dead at the school.

The school might not had the only place he targeted. Might be more victims elsewhere.



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