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honestly who cares about a band that ceased being relevant in the mid 80s?

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Quattro wrote: honestly who cares about a band that ceased being relevant in the mid 80s?
They might not be relevant to our demographic anymore, but they're more relevant than they've ever been before.  They just released an album a month ago and it hit #1 everywhere.  So did the 2 before that.  They never had 3 #1 albums in what we would consider their prime.  Their 5 albums post-2000 (not including the one just released) did 11, 6, 7, 4, and 4 million sales, monster totals for this time period.  They're also selling out a stadium tour this summer.  No other '80s band can do any of this and few bands of any kind can.  U2 is the only possible exception I can think of.

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My Sister In Law was in their fan club for years.  I even watched my nieces one time so she could go to some special concert for club members where they were supposed to meet Jon.  He walked in took a look and left.  He sent his Mother to meet them in his place instead.  She was more upset about his cavalier attitude towards his fans than not meeting him.  Needless to say she is no long a card carrying member of their official fan club and it took her a couple of years to where she is a fan of their music again.



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HBF wrote: Ultimark wrote:
I had no idea of the economics behind all of this stuff. Wow. Hopefully, the Beatles screwed Ringo Starr.

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I forgot who it was (somebody famous) but they said Ringo was one of the best drummers of all time.

I'm pretty sure I read a Lennon quote, where someone said to Lennon that Ringo was the best drummer in the world, and Lennon's response was "he isnt even the best drummer in the Beatles!"

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srossi wrote:
Quattro wrote: honestly who cares about a band that ceased being relevant in the mid 80s?
They might not be relevant to our demographic anymore, but they're more relevant than they've ever been before.  They just released an album a month ago and it hit #1 everywhere.  So did the 2 before that.  They never had 3 #1 albums in what we would consider their prime.  Their 5 albums post-2000 (not including the one just released) did 11, 6, 7, 4, and 4 million sales, monster totals for this time period.  They're also selling out a stadium tour this summer.  No other '80s band can do any of this and few bands of any kind can.  U2 is the only possible exception I can think of.


who are buying these albums

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Quattro wrote: srossi wrote:
Quattro wrote: honestly who cares about a band that ceased being relevant in the mid 80s?
They might not be relevant to our demographic anymore, but they're more relevant than they've ever been before.  They just released an album a month ago and it hit #1 everywhere.  So did the 2 before that.  They never had 3 #1 albums in what we would consider their prime.  Their 5 albums post-2000 (not including the one just released) did 11, 6, 7, 4, and 4 million sales, monster totals for this time period.  They're also selling out a stadium tour this summer.  No other '80s band can do any of this and few bands of any kind can.  U2 is the only possible exception I can think of.


who are buying these albums

Middle aged divorced women whose lives suck.

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http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/foundation-gets-big-boost-from-bon-jovi-1.1224679

Foundation gets big boost from Bon Jovi

Colleen Schmidt, CTV Calgary
Published Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:07PM MDT


Rocker Jon Bon Jovi has made good on his promise of a big donation to a local charity after guitarist Ritchie Sambora was a no show at the concert on Tuesday.

One hour before hitting the stage, Bon Jovi announced his longtime guitarist Richie Sambora was bowing out of the tour.

In front of the sold-out crowd, Bon Jovi announced that they would donate $100,000 to the Calgary Homeless Foundation to make up for it.

On Thursday morning, the cheque was delivered to the foundation.

“It was pretty exciting. I mean it just gives everybody a lift and reminds you that ya what we are doing is important and there are many, many, many individuals who are also committed to see if we can do something to end homelessness and poverty,” said Louise Gallagher from the Calgary Homeless Foundation

The homeless foundation is connected to about 140 other agencies and the donation could help as many as two dozen people over the next year.

Read more: http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/foundation-gets-big-boost-from-bon-jovi-1.1224679#ixzz2Ph4EVshB

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http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/foundation-gets-big-boost-from-bon-jovi-1.1224679

Foundation gets big boost from Bon Jovi

Colleen Schmidt, CTV Calgary
Published Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:07PM MDT


Rocker Jon Bon Jovi has made good on his promise of a big donation to a local charity after guitarist Ritchie Sambora was a no show at the concert on Tuesday.

One hour before hitting the stage, Bon Jovi announced his longtime guitarist Richie Sambora was bowing out of the tour.

In front of the sold-out crowd, Bon Jovi announced that they would donate $100,000 to the Calgary Homeless Foundation to make up for it.

On Thursday morning, the cheque was delivered to the foundation.

“It was pretty exciting. I mean it just gives everybody a lift and reminds you that ya what we are doing is important and there are many, many, many individuals who are also committed to see if we can do something to end homelessness and poverty,” said Louise Gallagher from the Calgary Homeless Foundation

The homeless foundation is connected to about 140 other agencies and the donation could help as many as two dozen people over the next year.

Read more: http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/foundation-gets-big-boost-from-bon-jovi-1.1224679#ixzz2Ph4EVshB



Looks like a smart PR move

Jon is smart about this, imo. I'm not a fan of the group @ all but Bon Jovi is a commodity to be bought & sold. Keep the ship moving steady & those checks coming in. Anybody that doesn't like it (including band members) can grab their hat, jump on their horse & move on. No biggie

If there is a need for artistic expression pop your garage door open & hit the music

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This is a main reason why folks like Mick Jones and himself are going to die with douche bottles, instead of roses, tossed upon their caskets.

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srossi wrote: Earlier this week it was announced that Richie Sambora was taking another leave of absence from Bon Jovi for "personal reasons".  This is always code for rehab, and Samboar actually just came out of rehab last year, so it wasn't very surprising.  But now it turns out that Sambora is still clean and left the band after a fight that almost turned physical between him and Jon.  It's been described as a classic "Jagger/Richards blow-up" and those close to Sambora say that it's probably over for good this time.  Richie's very comfortable and has been putting up with Jon for many years, and Jon has treated all his band members like contracted temps for at least 20 years now.  The guy seems like a brilliant businessman but impossible to deal with.  The more successful he's become in other enterprises, the more he manages Bon Jovi like a business, and that's only commendable to a certain point.  It's great that he's not blowing his money on drugs and hookers anymore and has amassed more wealth than probably anyone else out of the '80s scene, but at some point it's still rock 'n' roll and you need to have some heart.  Jon's been simply putting in his 9-to-5 and spitting insipid lyrics out of a machine utilizing market research and all this other crap that the band is unlistenable at this point, even live, which used to be their strong suit even after their studio albums started sucking.
Bon Jovi played the Xcel Energy Center, home of the Minnesota Wild, last night in front of 18,000 fans. Here's a link the Minneapolis Star Tribune's review which, interestingly, echos some of the points made by srossi.

http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/201875511.html

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One band that's been doing the "hired hand" thing for 30 years is KISS.  The only members of KISS that own or owned any part of the band are Gene, Paul, Ace, and Peter.  I do not believe Peter held his ownership after 1980, but Ace did, and I think Ace held it for about ten years after he left the band.  I also think that when they did the reunion tour they were cut in for a good payday, but nothing at all like what Gene and Paul got.

Eric Carr, Eric Singer, Tommy Thayer, Bruce Kulick, etc. all received paychecks, never to my knowledge did they ever get any royalties.  Where I could be wrong is if they physically had songwriting credits...but as far as KISS is concerned, only paychecks.



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Bumping this to include this recent quote from JBJ, taking a pretty big shot at Sambora and how easy he is to replace as opposed to someone else, like, say The Edge.

“It’s getting more and more difficult every day to not just sit here and say something, because all I can say is this, it’s for personal reasons.  He’s been through it before, fortunately for us the same guy who filled in last time was available this time.  Life goes on, so if someone chooses not to be here then so be it.  Unlike if this were, God forbid, The Edge, and he for some reason couldn’t make a U2 show, it would be very difficult to just step in."



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Edge has such a distinct sound it would be much harder to replace him in U2
Sambora can be replaced , though I do prefer Sambora's voice , close to JBJ but less of the Boltonesque stuff, and Bon Jovi is still huge, not just divorced women, lotsa women , Jon is always on Oprah and such so the girls love him, my sister who is 50 goes every year and she wasnt in to them in the 80's at all

I see nothing wrong with running bands as a business, if there are four buddies who start and run a successful biz for 20 years and one of the partners dies, dopes out, leaves whatever, and the other 3 bring in a replacement of sorts, not going to share the business equally in most cases



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The shit I give about Bon Jovi could not be seen with the Hubbel telescope from 50 feet away.



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thunderbolt wrote:
The shit I give about Bon Jovi could not be seen with the Hubbel telescope from 50 feet away.



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