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 Posted: Fri Aug 12th, 2016 11:51 pm
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Using KC as an example, there's a website which shows where all the homicides in the city occur

http://homicide.kansascity.com/map

If you click on it and then select year, say 2015 it shows where all the murders are. So looking at that map, only 2 occured north of the river (where I live) and actually only one with 10 miles of me. The majority occur in the shitty parts of the city, which I"m sure is the case in most major towns. So from my perspective, if cops here locally slowed down their efforts up north (because it's a different police dept) than downtown, should I really care that much? It's not like I'm in the middle of a war zone, and pretty much shit all happens here other than cops questioning me walking my dogs or expired tag issues.

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Secondly, to enlighten the ignorance, any time a cop fires his firearm, a taser, of his can of act right spray, he is required to submit in writing a report of who, what, where, when and why, and cops absolutely hate paperwork or having their actions reviewed by sob sister Captains, many of which are political appointees who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and sure as hell have never done any street work and whose daily routine is writing reports and eating donuts.

The same ones who actually believe that it's perfectly reasonable to expect a 5'10" 225 lb. cop to be able to subdue a 6'4" 350 Lb. monster high on drugs with a simple wristlock, or that you have to let the bad guy get away with at least 1 or 2 free shots at you before shooting back, and why didn't you shoot him once in the arm or leg to wound the poor misunderstood cretin who just tried to kill you, after all it works just like that in the goddamm movies.

I'm not even trying to be insulting, the averege Joe Blow or message board poster has about as much an idea what police work is like as they do biochemical engeneering on the molecular level to produce a better disease resistant ear of corn.


I don't know about your neck of the woods but up here in the wicked city the ONLY way you make Captain is going up the ranks from patrolman via a civil service test. There is no such thing as a political appointee for any police position in New York City or Long Island except the Commissioner. A captain is usually a precinct commander. They all know the streets because they started their careers in the street. If a high profile crime goes down in their district their asses are right out their in the street with the other blue clowns.


Just how many 6'4" 350lb. monster does a cop come across every day. Ummmm....none. How about getting the pigs to stop shooting and beating unarmed teenagers and pensioners?  The complete pussiness of your average pig baffles me. I mean these guys are literally afraid of everything.


I don't know a thing about biochemical engineering and I'm sure nobody on this board, with the possible exception of tamalie who knows fucking everything :) , do either. Police work, with its rigid high school graduate requirements, obviously has thousands of subhumans on the "job" with double digit IQ's so knowing what police work is like is something that a fairly bright 5 year old can learn.



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srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: Great news for the cop haters. 100 people have been shot since this month. Isn't a non-confrontational police force great?
Oh stop.  Even at their best, cops rarely prevent shootings, they just make an arrest after the shooting.  At their worst, which is what we usually see, they escalate violence and create more shootings.  This "non-confrontational" police force narrative that you're trying to spread, based on one pussy friend that you have, is a myth.  There's no evidence that the police have changed tactics at all.  


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/murder-rates-cities-fbi.html?_r=0

http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/

Oh, and it isn't just "one pussy" that's de policing, it's pretty much every cop I know.

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BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: Great news for the cop haters. 100 people have been shot since this month. Isn't a non-confrontational police force great?
Oh stop.  Even at their best, cops rarely prevent shootings, they just make an arrest after the shooting.  At their worst, which is what we usually see, they escalate violence and create more shootings.  This "non-confrontational" police force narrative that you're trying to spread, based on one pussy friend that you have, is a myth.  There's no evidence that the police have changed tactics at all.  


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/murder-rates-cities-fbi.html?_r=0

http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/

Oh, and it isn't just "one pussy" that's de policing, it's pretty much every cop I know.

Well I'm not reading the NY Post article because I'd lose brain cells and I assume you're just lightening the mood by including that as a serious "reference" and want me to rebut it by citing the Weekly World News.  But the NY Times article you posted a link to merely talks about an uptick in homicides and literally begins with the words "Experts cannot agree".  Surprsie, surprise, the "YouTube effect" theory is credited to Commissioner Bratton and the "Fergusen effect" is a term coined by a St. Louis police chief. 

In the very article you cite as proof, it says, "The agency’s director, James Comey, has linked rising crime to less aggressive policing — the “viral video effect,” he called it this week, rejecting the more racially charged “Ferguson effect.” His theory, however, found little support from the White House, law enforcement groups, criminologists or even the group that gave him the new data on Friday."

Alrighty then.  So someone with an agenda talked out of his ass and everyone laughed at him, even law enforcement groups.  And even that guy rejected the "Fergusen effect" at least.  And all this is in the article YOU provided me.  I could've linked you to that article to prove my point actually. 

You're searching for a correlation that doesn't exist, especially when you consider that crime was on the rise, especially in Chicago, long before Fergusen.  This is like the reverse of the "broken windows theory", which has repeatedly been disproven by actual data which shows that crime was plummeting long before Rudy was ever elected, nationally, in NY, everywhere, but he loves to take credit for it.     

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They feared for their lives from the  hand slap 
https://www.facebook.com/mediatakeout/videos/1361303900568220/

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More fearing for lives.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3737500/Graphic-video-shows-two-NYPD-cops-pinning-punching-black-man-police-say-serial-burglar-broke-detective-s-nose.html



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Another case of the cop acting completely appropriately, according to supervisors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/16/father-utterly-terrified-after-trooper-points-gun-at-his-7-year-old-during-traffic-stop/?utm_term=.0483732f5d95



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What a nightmare for that father and daughter.



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Franchise wrote: What a nightmare for that father and daughter.
But it's the father's fault for being "negative" about the experience online.  LOL 



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why can't the officers do a little work before pulling the gun? Talk to the guy and find out it's a rental, maybe call the rental place, I'm sure they have someone on call. Why not let the dad stay in the car? If the officer was worried about him running how about he just takes the keys while he looks into this? That way the father can sit with his daughter. The police need all the help they can get to clean up their image and stuff like this doesnt help.



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Franchise wrote: why can't the officers do a little work before pulling the gun? Talk to the guy and find out it's a rental, maybe call the rental place, I'm sure they have someone on call. Why not let the dad stay in the car? If the officer was worried about him running how about he just takes the keys while he looks into this? That way the father can sit with his daughter. The police need all the help they can get to clean up their image and stuff like this doesnt help.
Because the cops have one job and one job only and that's to not get shot, even in the most unlikeliest of scenarios.  They're lives are worth more than everyone else's.  If they have to murder a family of 12 and their dogs because there's a 0.5% chance they might be killed, they'll do it.  Even though they signed up for the lifestyle and we didn't.   

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: why can't the officers do a little work before pulling the gun? Talk to the guy and find out it's a rental, maybe call the rental place, I'm sure they have someone on call. Why not let the dad stay in the car? If the officer was worried about him running how about he just takes the keys while he looks into this? That way the father can sit with his daughter. The police need all the help they can get to clean up their image and stuff like this doesnt help.
Because the cops have one job and one job only and that's to not get shot, even in the most unlikeliest of scenarios.  They're lives are worth more than everyone else's.  If they have to murder a family of 12 and their dogs because there's a 0.5% chance they might be killed, they'll do it.  Even though they signed up for the lifestyle and we didn't.  
Cops are slightly more intelligent than hobo ejaculate. They do not possess the brainpower to understand whatever scenario is unfolding in front of them so they go right into primal mode. The police departments want people with barely average IQ's that will blindly follow orders. If you bring a high IQ and deductive reasoning to the table, the police do not want you. I mean really. They do not want you.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836




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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: why can't the officers do a little work before pulling the gun? Talk to the guy and find out it's a rental, maybe call the rental place, I'm sure they have someone on call. Why not let the dad stay in the car? If the officer was worried about him running how about he just takes the keys while he looks into this? That way the father can sit with his daughter. The police need all the help they can get to clean up their image and stuff like this doesnt help.
Because the cops have one job and one job only and that's to not get shot, even in the most unlikeliest of scenarios.  They're lives are worth more than everyone else's.  If they have to murder a family of 12 and their dogs because there's a 0.5% chance they might be killed, they'll do it.  Even though they signed up for the lifestyle and we didn't.  
Cops are slightly more intelligent than hobo ejaculate. They do not possess the brainpower to understand whatever scenario is unfolding in front of them so they go right into primal mode. The police departments want people with barely average IQ's that will blindly follow orders. If you bring a high IQ and deductive reasoning to the table, the police do not want you. I mean really. They do not want you.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836



It's the same line of thinking as the military, but that makes more sense since military kids are meant to be sent to slaughter. Cops actually need to think occasionally. 



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I haven't read through the entire highjinx of this thread, but is anybody here supporting the notion that the black police officer who shot the black criminal who was pulling a gun in Milwaukee was acting in an aggressive and racist manner?  Because that's what CNN wants people to think, even excluding the criminal/victim's sister's suggestion to "go burn down the suburbs". 

It's fucking insanity.



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If the police are gonna shoot you when you ain't got a gun, you fo sho oughtta know that they will when you do.

It's pretty stupid to think otherwise.



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