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HBF wrote: I haven't read through the entire highjinx of this thread, but is anybody here supporting the notion that the black police officer who shot the black criminal who was pulling a gun in Milwaukee was acting in an aggressive and racist manner?  Because that's what CNN wants people to think, even excluding the criminal/victim's sister's suggestion to "go burn down the suburbs". 

It's fucking insanity.

I didn't see any video (if it exists) so I have no idea.  People need to stop with the racism bullshit though.  It's a power play, pure and simple, an act of state-sponsored aggression to assert control.  It has nothing to do with the race of the cop.  He's one of them, and wants to take out who he perceives as thugs as much as any white cop does.  Maybe moreso, because he might come from those neighborhoods and knows that those thugs are him without the badge.  Prison guards are the same way, even worse.  Mostly lowlifes with low histories of being around crime (if not directly involved in it) who love the power of a little authority and use it like a high school bully does.  The race of the authority figure is completely irrelevant, and although I would never pretend that blacks don't get targeted more than whites by cops, the race of the so-called perpetrator rarely has anything to do with it either.  Cops assert authority and they do it violently.  Period.  Black Lives Matter need to start getting more inclusive (and yes, stop being so fucking racist themselves) and reach out to the thousands of people of all colors and races who have been victimized.  Nothing changes as long as it's black vs. white.  The cops are all laughing at them by alienating so many.  They know there will never be real repercussions that way.   

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Great news!  The first pet murder by the NYPD to result in a monetary win of any kind in civil court!  Only $21,500 and a settlement but sets a precedent for larger suits in the future.  Of course, this is all just coming out of taxpayer dollars, but people are trying to get it to come out of pension funds.  Yeah, a pipedream but we can try.
http://www.silive.com/westshore/index.ssf/2014/06/settlement_in_dog-shooting_law.html


STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- Patricia Ratz's pit bull, Baby Girl, was more than just a dog.
Rescued by Ms. Ratz before she could be euthanized by Animal Care and Control, the 2-year-old was a loyal companion and friend and a playmate to Ms. Ratz's kids.
So after Baby Girl was fatally shot and killed by police in a tragic incident in Travis' Schmul Park last year, Ms. Ratz sued the city, seeking to deter further pet killings, her lawyer said.
Ms. Ratz recently settled the suit in Brooklyn federal court for $21,500, court records show.


"It was never a money thing," said Ms. Ratz in a telephone conversation. "I want to stop them from killing animals."
"We hope that the police department and the city treats animal-shooting cases more fairly in the future, and hope this is a sign they'll do so," said Ms. Ratz's lawyer, Leah M. Busby of the Law Office of Ronald L. Kuby.
Ms. Ratz said she had incurred $17,000 in veterinary bills in an unsuccessful bid to save her pet's life.
A spokesman for the city Law Department, which handled the legal case for the city and NYPD, said the settlement "was in the best interests of all parties."
According to Ms. Ratz, she and her sister had brought their three pit bulls to Schmul Park for an outing on April 6, 2013. Two of the dogs – not Baby Girl – began to fight, and when Ms. Ratz put her hand between the two dogs, trying to break up the battle, one of the dogs bit her hand.
A police officer and another officer in civilian clothing, both on scene, drew their guns in response to her screams and began firing, shooting more than eight rounds, Ms. Ratz said.
She said the park was filled with children.
Police sources said all three dogs were off their leashes, and the officers rushed to the scene because of Ms. Ratz's screams.
According to police, responding officers had tried to help Ms. Ratz, and in the attempt to get the dog off her, fired off some shots.
At the time, multiple NYPD sources characterized it as a "cut-and-dried" instance of an officer shooting an aggressive dog to protect the public.
But Ms. Ratz and her sister, Kathleen Dixon, maintained their dogs posed no threat.
Both said Baby Girl had run off in fear after a bullet struck her paw, but the officers kept firing off rounds, hitting her again from behind until the dog eventually collapsed. The other dogs had also been scared off, they said.
Ms. Dixon said she was calming the dogs down when the officers fired.
Baby Girl succumbed to her wounds five days later, despite multiple surgeries to try to save her.
Before her tragic end, the 2-year-old pit bull spent her days playing with Ms. Ratz's three young children, snuggling up with the family rabbit and two cats, and simply enjoying being alive.
"Adopt one and tell me if you think they're still dangerous," Ms. Ratz recently told the Advance, referring to those who assume all pit bulls are vicious.
According to Advance reports, Baby Girl cheated death in the fall of 2012 when she was minutes away from being euthanized.
Courtney Bellow, of the Northeast Region of Special Needs Animal Rescue and Rehabilitation (SNARR), said the group tries to match at-risk dogs with a home before they're put down.
Ms. Bellow paired Baby Girl with Ms. Ratz, who already had fostered three dogs, one of which she adopted. Ms. Bellow said animal shelter volunteers who dealt with the dog raved about her good behavior.

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Staten Island police are a bunch of cunts...if anybody deserves to get hit in the head with a baseball bat, it's a Staten Island cop under the age of 30



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Superstar wrote: Staten Island police are a bunch of cunts...if anybody deserves to get hit in the head with a baseball bat, it's a Staten Island cop under the age of 30There's a reason for that. Staten Island would be considered a plum assignment because of the low crime rates and mostly middle class to upper middle class demographic. A cop who is under 30 with only a scant few years on the job who gets assigned there is probably well connected and a second, third, or maybe even fourth generation piggy. This would make their sense of entitlement even worse then your average mouth breather cop.



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This needs a bump.

There's a video at the link, not that it will matter even if people hear it with their own ears.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/21/aclu-connecticut-state-troopers-caught-o

One Friday evening last September, Connecticut resident Michael Picard was doing what he usually does: standing on a strip of grass by an Interstate onramp and protesting the government.

Picard, a local privacy activist, often protests police DUI checkpoints, which he believes are unconstitutional and a waste of money. That night he was holding a sign warning motorists of a DUI checkpoint farther up the road. Picard, like any good protester these days, also had a camera to document his interactions with police.

What he ended capturing on video is now at the center of a civil rights lawsuit filed Monday on Picard's behalf by the Connecticut ACLU against three state troopers, whom Picard claims illegally seized his camera and then conspired to fabricate charges against him. Unbeknownst to the officers, though, the camera was still recording.

According the lawsuit, Connecticut state trooper John Barone confronted Picard, saying he had received complaints from passing motorists that Picard, who also open-carries a handgun, was waving his gun in the air. (The ACLU says there were never any such complaints and that Picard kept his gun holstered at all times.) After claiming it was illegal for Picard to film him, Barone snatched the camera and put it on the roof of his police cruiser while he and other officers discussed what charges to hit Picard with.

"You want to punch a number on this either way?" Barone asked one of his supervising officers, police slang for opening an investigation and entering a case number. "Gotta cover our ass."

"We could hit him with reckless use of the highway by a pedestrian and creating a public disturbance," Sgt. John Jacobi suggested.

"And then we claim in backup we had multiple people who stopped to complain," Master Sgt. Patrick Torneo added later in the conversation. "They didn't want to stay and offer a statement, so we took our own course of action."

The officers ticketed Picard, returned his camera and gun, and told him to protest in another location. It took Picard more than a year to get the criminal charges against him dismissed.

In the lawsuit, the ACLU says the three state troopers retaliated against Picard, violating his First Amendment rights to protest and film the government, as well as his Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure.

"Community members like me have a right to film government officials doing their jobs in public, and we should be able to protest without fearing political retribution from law enforcement," Picard said in a statement. "As an advocate for free speech, I'm deeply disappointed that these police officers ignored my rights, particularly because two of the troopers involved were supervisors who should be setting an example for others. By seeking to hold these three police officers accountable, I hope that I can prevent the same thing from happening to someone else."

A spokesperson for the Connecticut State Police said the issue was subject to an ongoing investigation and declined to comment.

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Perhaps the epitome of everything we talk about.  A good explanation in the text and the 16 minute video detailing the absurd escalation of this incident, from friendly to violent, is in the link.  But no, cops don't have time to harass people for no reason, so we've been told.  Exactly how long does a completely innocent person on the street have to withstand harassment or be detained for no reason?  And how transparent is it to basically play the game of "Why you upset?" "I'm not upset." "You seem upset." until the person actually becomes upset so you have some slim justification for harassing them further.  The cop resigned to avoid being fired but will never do a day of jail time despite this assault and unlawful detention.  

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/05/tackled-punched-and-cuffed-for-sitting-o

The encounter between Travis Cole, a white police officer, and Dejuan Yourse, a black man sitting on the porch of his mother's house in Greensboro, North Carolina, starts calm and friendly but ends with Yourse lying face down on the front lawn, restrained by handcuffs and Cole's knee on his shoulder, complaining that "you tried to beat my ass for real." The senseless escalation of the interaction between Cole and Yourse illustrates how even seemingly mild-mannered cops can be clueless about the indignities they are inflicting on innocent people yet supersensitive to any perceived questioning of their authority. That double standard is compounded by a legal system that fails to hold cops responsible for the crimes they commit when they make bogus arrests. In the 16-minute body camera video of the incident, which happened last June, it is easy to identify the point at which things start to go south: about eight minutes after Cole arrives with another officer, C.N. Jackson, in response to a report of a possible attempted burglary. That is when Cole pokes Yourse in the chest and orders him to sit back down. Yourse, who has repeatedly suggested that a neighbor named Charlie can verify his identity, is heading for Charlie's house when Cole makes it clear he is not free to go.

Yourse has not done anything illegal, and at no point during the encounter does Cole or Jackson seem to think he might actually be a burglar. "Usually if someone is trying to break into a house, they're not gonna sit on the porch" in broad daylight, Cole notes, and as Yourse points out, "the address is on my ID." Cole says he believes Yourse when he says he is "just sitting here, chillin', waiting on my Moms," who has the key to the house. Cole even speculates that "somebody outside the cul-de-sac" must have called the police, since anyone who lived nearby would have recognized Yourse. Although Yourse's mother is not answering her cellphone, Cole says it's not necessary to bother the neighbors. "I believe you," he says. "You have your ID. You told me your name. It matches up."

Yet Cole stays and continues to grill Yourse—about his prison tattoos, his possible outstanding warrants (Yourse says he has none), even the pronunciation of his last name. Yourse tolerates it all with a smile. But after Cole prevents him from leaving the porch, he starts to show his irritation. "Why are you doing this?" he asks. "Why are you talking to me like that?" Cole seems genuinely puzzled by Yourse's anger at being treated like an intruder on the porch of the house where he grew up. "Dejuan, relax," he says. "What's going on? I didn't do nothing." Yourse responds, "I didn't do nothing either." Cole wonders why "you seem a little animated," as if there must be some explanation other than the treatment he is receiving from Cole. "I'm just trying to prove to you I live here," Yourse says, "and you start looking at me like I'm lying." He says he is upset because "a cop is on me in my own house, and I ain't did nothing."

Maddeningly, Cole does not seem to get it. In his mind, he has been patient and understanding, so there is no reason for Yourse to be upset. So when Yourse calls a friend (or maybe a relative) to complain that "the police is over here, and they're harassing me," Cole loses it. He tries to grab the phone, Yourse objects, and Cole orders him to stand up so he can be handcuffed. Cole ends up tackling Yourse on the porch, punching him in the face, and handcuffing him behind his back. Yourse insists that he's not resisting, so there is no need for violence, and Cole says "you were resisting the whole time." When Yourse asks why Cole suddenly decided to handcuff him, the officer says "you can't use the phone and call people and say get over here." On the way to the police car, finding Yourse insufficiently submissive, Cole tackles him again and kneels on him while Jackson tells him to "be an adult." To which Yourse replies, "What about you?"

Yourse was charged with resisting arrest and assaulting an officer. Those charges were dropped, presumably after Cole's superiors had a look at the body cam footage. The Washington Post reports that "an internal affairs investigation, which was completed on Aug. 30, found that Cole violated the Greensboro Police Department's rules on use of force, courtesy toward the public, arrest, search and seizure, and compliance with laws and regulations." Cole quit the department in the midst of the investigation, and Jackson resigned last week, but no criminal charges have been filed against Cole—a decision that the police chief, city attorneys, and the Greensboro City Council recently urged prosecutors to reconsider.

"It's because he didn't commit a crime," Chief Assistant District Attorney Howard Neumann told the Greensboro News & Record last week. "I'm confident that's what the law says. To charge him would be a violation of my role as a prosecutor." The News & Record paraphrased Neumann as saying "law enforcement officers are entitled to use whatever force they think is necessary to arrest somebody they reasonably believe has committed a crime." And what crime did Cole reasonably believe Yourse had committed? According to Neumann, "Cole decided he was going to place this guy under arrest for obstruction."

It's not clear exactly what Yourse supposedly obstructed or how he obstructed it, but apparently it had something to with his phone call, his refusal to surrender his phone, or maybe both. Yet Yourse was never charged with obstruction, and the police department concluded that his arrest was not justified, which means the force Cole used to effectuate it was not justified either.

"There was nothing in that video that prompted Officer Cole to go from zero to a 1,000 in less than a second," Greensboro Councilwoman Sharon Hightower told the News & Record. "Certainly police have the right to use force. I think that Officer Cole crossed the line."

It is hard to disagree with that assessment. On the face of it, Cole is guilty of trespassing, assault, and kidnapping. The fact that he had a badge while committing those crimes should not make a difference, but of course it does.


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I understand that the Connecticut Po-Po has such a difficult job since they have such a gang problem ever since the Mean Street Posse stopped patrolling the streets to keep everyone safe at night. They are just stressed out just from the thought of a thug in a Rolls Royce possibly running a traffic light.



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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/06/cop-didnt-shoot-attacker-over-fear-of-national-scrutiny-superintendent-says/?e=oarIkM7VQgDBYw

News in Chicago today. This is the other side of it. The lib spin and media outrage now has officers afraid to use their weapons. A female officer got her head bashed in because of it. Dude was high on PCP and screwed her up pretty good. This would have been the choir boy with the family crying on the news if he had been shot.



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So how is it that ER docs and nurses deal with people high on PCP and Meth without guns and manage to take them down without killing them, but cops aren't capable of doing so? 
The attack went on for a few minutes? DId her partner stand around jerking off while watching? 

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Principal_Raditch wrote: So how is it that ER docs and nurses deal with people high on PCP and Meth without guns and manage to take them down without killing them, but cops aren't capable of doing so? 
The attack went on for a few minutes? DId her partner stand around jerking off while watching? 

Psst...This is a quote from the Superintendent.  It's complete bullshit, speaking of spin.  It doesn't even make any sense of the surface.  A cop handled a situation badly and got her ass kicked while her partner cowered in fear, and suddenly that becomes "Cops are afraid to use their guns!"  Obviously, they are using them plenty, that's the problem. 



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I think ER Docs & Nurses are tougher then Cops.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: I think ER Docs & Nurses are tougher then Cops.
I don't envy them. The few times I've had to go to the ER, there are tons of homeless, drunks, drug addicts, and every other dreg of society, all in some kind of pain or having a bad day, and none very reasonable. And the ER doctors and nurses deal with them all calmly and professionally and do their best to help them. But of course doctors and nurses have to be educated and not semi-literate thugs like cops. Education is always a big factor when it comes to violence. The dumber you are, the quicker you resort to it. That's why criminals and cops are such a volatile combination. 

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Blazer wrote: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/06/cop-didnt-shoot-attacker-over-fear-of-national-scrutiny-superintendent-says/?e=oarIkM7VQgDBYw

News in Chicago today. This is the other side of it. The lib spin and media outrage now has officers afraid to use their weapons. A female officer got her head bashed in because of it. Dude was high on PCP and screwed her up pretty good. This would have been the choir boy with the family crying on the news if he had been shot.
Gosh!!! Blue Thunder was right all along!!!!



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