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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 02:20 pm
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Is it possible for anyone to have a mature discussion like adults without even getting partisan politics involved?  And really, this has nothing to do with partisan politics anyway because it's just all Republican in-fighting.

So Trump hires this Scaramucci guy to be Communications Director, which leads me to believe that handling the media might be pretty high on his list of qualifications.  So maybe the first few days on the job he might want to fill out some paperwork, get a tour of his office, take his staff out to lunch, learn their names...or, he could just call a reporter unsolicited and go on an unhinged rant about everyone he'll be working with, forget to say the conversation is off the record, and then get mad when the call is made public in excruciating detail. 

He called Reince Priebus a "fucking paranoid schizophrenic" and a "cock-blocker" and said that Steve Bannon likes to "suck his own cock" and "build his own brand on the fucking strength of the President".  What possible reason could there be to make those remarks to a reporter?  Hoe exactly is that going to stop the leaks that he was hired to plug?  He's already threatened to fire everyone, so why would anyone be loyal to him?  They're just going to leak even more damaging shit on the way out.  And why does Scaramucci even care so much?  He doesn't have a prayer of lasting a year, or even 6 months, in this position and we all know it. 

I can accept that Trump is in way over his head and acts like a child, but I don't understand how everyone in his administration are the same exact way now.  The Republicans were supposed to be the adults in the room.  The office of the Presidency has been held by a long line of alcoholics, drug addicts, depressives, and the physically and mentally disabled, and yet in 220 years we've never seen anything like this before top to bottom in an administration.  And it's every single day. 

Half of the stuff doesn't even seem weird anymore.  And Trump supporters just completely accept it and defends their own until Trump turns on them and then hates them.  The bar has been lowered to the point that I don't know if we can ever get it raised again.  I'm not sure if this will go down as a blip on the radar and in 20 years everyone will be laughing about it, or if this is the beginning of a devolution that will lead to shouting matches and name-calling and fist fights for decades to come.

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srossi wrote:  or if this is the beginning of a devolution that will lead to shouting matches and name-calling and fist fights for decades to come.
So you're not sure if it will lead to what has been happening since the beginning of time?



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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote:  or if this is the beginning of a devolution that will lead to shouting matches and name-calling and fist fights for decades to come.
So you're not sure if it will lead to what has been happening since the beginning of time?

I don't think anything quite like where we're heading has happened since the days of Julius Cesar, with the exception of that time Charles Sumner was beaten with a cane by Preston Brooks while debating slavery.  That was more of a one-off.

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The whole thing reads like a smack fueled rant. Good times.



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srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote:  or if this is the beginning of a devolution that will lead to shouting matches and name-calling and fist fights for decades to come.
So you're not sure if it will lead to what has been happening since the beginning of time?

I don't think anything quite like where we're heading has happened since the days of Julius Cesar, with the exception of that time Charles Sumner was beaten with a cane by Preston Brooks while debating slavery.  That was more of a one-off.


We used to have politicians kill each other in duels, politics these days are nothing but games of grab-ass...



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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote:  or if this is the beginning of a devolution that will lead to shouting matches and name-calling and fist fights for decades to come.
So you're not sure if it will lead to what has been happening since the beginning of time?

I don't think anything quite like where we're heading has happened since the days of Julius Cesar, with the exception of that time Charles Sumner was beaten with a cane by Preston Brooks while debating slavery.  That was more of a one-off.


We used to have politicians kill each other in duels, politics these days are nothing but games of grab-ass...

Most duels were grab-ass.  You showed up to prove a point about you manhood but very rarely were shots fired with the intent to connect.  You typically fired at the ground and then made up.  I'm not trying to say that the practice wasn't ridiculous and uncivilized even for the time, but they really weren't murdering each other at will.  It was all a work. 

Obviously, something went very wrong with the Hamilton-Burr duel.  It was already illegal to duel.  They went to NJ to do it because enforcement there was more lax than in NY, where they immediately would've been arrested.  Hamilton fired first, and all reports indicate he intentionally fired well over Burr's head without the slightest intention of conecting.  Burr shot Hamilton for real.  It was very bizarre and not at all common.

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Who is Sarah Huckabee Sanders replacing?? I am having a hard time keeping up with these changes.

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chrob61 wrote: Who is Sarah Huckabee Sanders replacing?? I am having a hard time keeping up with these changes.
She's replacing Spicer I think.  Spicer resigned because he didn't want Scaramucci as his boss, and basically wanted the job himself.



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In other words: Spicer thought that Scaramucci was too much of a cunt to work for. Consider the idiots in the White House already and ponder that one for a second.

Gotta say, for someone in another country, this whole Trump Administration has been like a bad Ricky Gervais produced comedy.



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broke wrote: In other words: Spicer thought that Scaramucci was too much of a cunt to work for. Consider the idiots in the White House already and ponder that one for a second.

Gotta say, for someone in another country, this whole Trump Administration has been like a bad Ricky Gervais produced comedy.

Well it was more about the fact that Scaramucci has no experience in this area and Spicer was going to be asked to train his boss, hold his hand, take the blame when shit fell apart, and not receive a raise for his efforts.  But yeah, he's a cunt too. 



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In Trumps administration the only way to do something smart is to leave the Trump administration.



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Priebus quits. Who's next? Kushner? Mueller? Sessions? What's the record for firings/quitting in the 1st year of an administration?

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And why does Scaramucci even care so much?  He doesn't have a prayer of lasting a year, or even 6 months, in this position and we all know it. 

I was way off.  He didn't last 6 days.  Sources indicate the new Chief of Staff is having him removed.  This is an unprecedented shit-show.  There aren't even words.



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Hilarious. Sad. Shit. Show...

I can think of plenty.

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The NY Times has the story now:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/us/politics/anthony-scaramucci-white-house.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

WASHINGTON — President Trump has decided to remove Anthony Scaramucci from his position as communications director, three people close to the decision said Monday, relieving him just days after Mr. Scaramucci unloaded a crude verbal tirade against other senior members of the president’s senior staff.

Mr. Scaramucci’s abrupt removal came just 10 days after the wealthy New York financier was brought on to the West Wing staff, a move that convulsed an already chaotic White House and led to the departures of Sean Spicer, the former press secretary, and Reince Priebus, the president’s first chief of staff.
The decision to remove Mr. Scaramucci, who had boasted about reporting directly to the president not the chief of staff, John F. Kelly, came at Mr. Kelly’s request, the people said. Mr. Kelly made clear to members of the White House staff at a meeting Monday morning that he is in charge.
It was not clear whether Mr. Scaramucci will remain employed at the White House in another position or will leave altogether.



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