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 Posted: Fri Sep 29th, 2017 01:33 pm
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DaNkinator wrote: But her emails. You went on about the shady shit she did and him and his family of nepotism and cabinet members have all lied over and over about the same stuff and your response is "Big deal".
The White House has now opened an official investigation into Kushner's e-mail use.  I've already heard all the talking points on how this is different from Hillary, but they both should be sharing a jail cell.  It can be one in a men's prison or a women's, and either way that works just fine for both of them.  They'll have a wonderful androgynously homosexual relationship together. 

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Not to mention that Trump's board to review voting ballots turned up that Kushner was registered in two states, and that one of them had him as a female.

But beyond the obvious hypocrisy of things like that, Trump's just bad at his job and willingly lies about things with no second thought about doing so.

And it's things that are always easily dis-proven, but his nutswingers simply do not care about that whatsoever.

 - Claims his tax plan wouldn't benefit him or his cronies. That drop from 39.6% to 20% would save him roughly $7M in taxes.

- "we have the votes to repeal Obamacare, but one senator is in the hospital". He repeated this over and over. No, the senator was at home. And even with his vote, with 3 of the GOP senators voting against it, it was DOA.

- Just claimed on Twitter that the GDP was adjusted upward this last quarter and that it wasn't expected to happen for years. It happened every single year for the last 8 years.

 - He wouldn't sign the ACA repeal if it hurt Medicare. It would strip 32M.

- Makes ridiculous statements like "we're getting high marks for how we're handling Puerto Rico.  This is a great news story".   No.  You had to be guilt tripped into waiving the Jones Act, after more than a week of getting raked over the coals.  It's a humanitarian crisis, and you were more worried and satisfied with causing dissent with sports players in order to rile up your ignorant, racist base.


You know we could do this all day. But "Big deal".

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Getting a Trump supporter to admit that he's the same as any other politician is like getting a Democrat to admit the same thing about Obama a few years ago.  As our country moves further away from religion, politicians have replaced it when it comes to unbridled support from the feeble-minded and easily manipulated.  Pointing out hypocrisies about their favorite politicians is about as effective as pointing out hypocrisies in the Bible.  Even when reading it in black and white, they can't allow their minds to process it otherwise it destroys their worldview and their hope for something better.   

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In my experience, I've seen way quite a bit of criticism for Obama from my liberal friends and acquaintances. But in general, I'd agree with that statement.

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DaNkinator wrote: In my experience, I've seen way quite a bit of criticism for Obama from my liberal friends and acquaintances. But in general, I'd agree with that statement.
If you tell a Democrat right now that Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in history, including more than 240,000 in 2016 compared to Trump's just over 210,000 as we approach the end of 2017, their heads will fucking explode.  The funny thing is, so will Republican heads as they'll have to try to figure out a way to explain how Obama was better at accomplishing Trump's main campaign promise than Trump is.  So both sides will have to deny the truth.

The other thing is "liberals" is a broad term that encompasses everyone in the Democratic party and some independents.  They'll have very different opinions, as we saw with Hillary vs. Bernie.  Trump supporters are not Republicans or conservatives, they're Trump supporters and many won't necessarily continue to support the party after he flames out.  They're already part of a niche group of very angry and illogical people.  Plenty of Republicans and conservatives are extremely anti-Trump.  So a bit of an unfair comparison. 

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The problem with Democrats is that they are offended by everything. Now some things with Trump are offensive. I doubt anyone would disagree that it is racist to say an American born judge of Mexican heritage should be removed from a case about a private university. However, the Democrats just go to far even with their own. Someone is always apologizing for something that is silly in the end.

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A perfect example - liberals are all upset because Jimmy Kimmel made some (funny Imo) jokes about Hugh Hefner. Get a grip.

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srossi wrote: DaNkinator wrote: In my experience, I've seen way quite a bit of criticism for Obama from my liberal friends and acquaintances. But in general, I'd agree with that statement.
If you tell a Democrat right now that Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in history, including more than 240,000 in 2016 compared to Trump's just over 210,000 as we approach the end of 2017, their heads will fucking explode.  The funny thing is, so will Republican heads as they'll have to try to figure out a way to explain how Obama was better at accomplishing Trump's main campaign promise than Trump is.  So both sides will have to deny the truth.

The other thing is "liberals" is a broad term that encompasses everyone in the Democratic party and some independents.  They'll have very different opinions, as we saw with Hillary vs. Bernie.  Trump supporters are not Republicans or conservatives, they're Trump supporters and many won't necessarily continue to support the party after he flames out.  They're already part of a niche group of very angry and illogical people.  Plenty of Republicans and conservatives are extremely anti-Trump.  So a bit of an unfair comparison. 

tl;dr:  Everyone sucks.  



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BlueThunder wrote: What exactly is it that you want? Okay, he's trying to save face. In doing so he lied. Big deal. When this guy is up for sainthood, he won't have my endorsement.


I just read today that refugee entrance has been slashed by half since last year. That's a huge win. Illegal crossing has plummeted since January. That's a monstrous victory. Okay, to know fault of his own, he didn't get ACA repealed. Back to the drawing board.
So you admit to a double standard?

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Ultimark wrote: BlueThunder wrote: What exactly is it that you want? Okay, he's trying to save face. In doing so he lied. Big deal. When this guy is up for sainthood, he won't have my endorsement.


I just read today that refugee entrance has been slashed by half since last year. That's a huge win. Illegal crossing has plummeted since January. That's a monstrous victory. Okay, to know fault of his own, he didn't get ACA repealed. Back to the drawing board.
So you admit to a double standard?


Umm, I would say lying about the cause of Benghazi is much worse than lying about the Senate vote. Name me one politician that didn't lie. The senate not voting to repeal ACA is not indicative of him being a failure. What happened in Benghazi was indicative of her incompetence. Her lie about some youtube video could have potentially caused an innocent person harm.

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So his lack of understanding the basics of how insurance even works, or that he stood up and proclaimed was a great bill he was so proud of and was a great success, then within a few short weeks turned on and said was "mean", isn't indicative of failure to you?  

Congress is most certainly to blame for their share.  But everything they've put forward, that not one single reasonable person could ever feel is better than an already bad situation, he's been willing to pass anything into law and commit to allowing millions of Americans to be bankrupted or left to die.

But Hey, as long as those dirty immigrants are denied safe haven.

What's happened in Puerto Rico is indicative of his incompetence. Innocent people actually ARE dying because of it.

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It's that no good hispanic woman mayor being propped up by the DEMS that's to blame for Trump's complete fumbling the ball in Puerto Rico.

Then again, it's only Ricano's. They're barely American.
No biggie. #MAGA



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I'm not surprised anymore, but he's comparing PR to Katrina and saying it's not as bad. And also trumps his own insensitivity by saying “I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack”.

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DaNkinator wrote: I'm not surprised anymore, but he's comparing PR to Katrina and saying it's not as bad. And also trumps his own insensitivity by saying “I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack”.
I don't think his bad jokes should really be blown out of proportion that much when there's so much else to be outraged over, but I do think the video of him throwing toilet paper at the poor is a liberal wet dream the likes of which this world hasn't seen since George W. Bush misquoted the "fool me once" saying.  There is virtually no way that he gets through another year without asking Ben Carson to shine his shoes on camera. 



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