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 Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2017 03:08 pm
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I just want to know what you really think.  Trump said yesterday that they had the votes for health insurance reform but that Thad Cochran, Senator from MS was in the hospital and could not vote otherwise it would have passed.
This is factually inaccurate since 3 R's already said they would vote no.  52-3=49.  When the President says things like this do you believe him or do you just accept that he will be incorrect once in a while?  Can you just answer the question and not bring up Obama's lies. I know he lied as well on stuff.  I just want to see what you think on Trump.

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Ultimark wrote: Can you just answer the question and not bring up Obama's lies. I know he lied as well on stuff.  I just want to see what you think on Trump.
But can they at least bring up Hillary's lies?  Jimmy Carter's?  FDR put the Japs in fucking concentration camps for God's sake, surely that can be mentioned!  I mean, give them a lifeline here or this is going to be a really short thread.



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Might he have had a defecting Dem or two?

I can't say he didn't since the vote was axed.

I can't say he did as well since the vote was axed.

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martini wrote: Might he have had a defecting Dem or two?

I can't say he didn't since the vote was axed.

I can't say he did as well sine the vote was axed.

 I asked Tito Santana if Trump had a defecting Dem or two.
He said "no".



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Tito knows everything, dude is a bad ass. 

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I think it's ridiculous that people sitting in front of a computer can expect a 71 year old man to remember everything he's said over the past 30 years, and call him a liar if he forgets something. But, I would say the same thing for Obama, Hillary, Bush, etc. The facts are that these are normal people that end up being the #1 face of the country. The fact that they remember to wipe their own ass is pretty impressive. So I don't pay all that much attention to what the news says about these people, because you know as well as I do that most of us would have no idea what these people say or have said if it weren't for the TV news channels that told us what pieces of shit/how great they are.



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Superstar wrote: I think it's ridiculous that people sitting in front of a computer can expect a 71 year old man to remember everything he's said over the past 30 years, and call him a liar if he forgets something. But, I would say the same thing for Obama, Hillary, Bush, etc. The facts are that these are normal people that end up being the #1 face of the country. The fact that they remember to wipe their own ass is pretty impressive. So I don't pay all that much attention to what the news says about these people, because you know as well as I do that most of us would have no idea what these people say or have said if it weren't for the TV news channels that told us what pieces of shit/how great they are.
In Trump's case it seems too much to ask him to remember what he said from the beginning of a speech to the middle of it. 



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Superstar wrote: I think it's ridiculous that people sitting in front of a computer can expect a 71 year old man to remember everything he's said over the past 30 years, and call him a liar if he forgets something. But, I would say the same thing for Obama, Hillary, Bush, etc. The facts are that these are normal people that end up being the #1 face of the country. The fact that they remember to wipe their own ass is pretty impressive. So I don't pay all that much attention to what the news says about these people, because you know as well as I do that most of us would have no idea what these people say or have said if it weren't for the TV news channels that told us what pieces of shit/how great they are.Except in this case, that wasn't it.  This was simple math.  Every D was a no and 3 R's had come out against it.  They wouldn't even take the vote because they knew it wouldn't pass.  This wasn't cable news saying it.  It was Trump himself.  Like he had the biggest EV win since Reagan.  Factually incorrect. 
This isn't about forgetting unless counting to 3 becomes an issue. 

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I do take note that none of them want to answer the question. Denial. I was no fan of Bush or Obama (a thousand posts as evidence) but this guy lies about things that are so easy to refute. Either he just lies for fun or he assumes everyone is stupid but him or he actually can't tell the truth from a lie.

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Ultimark wrote: I do take note that none of them want to answer the question. Denial. I was no fan of Bush or Obama (a thousand posts as evidence) but this guy lies about things that are so easy to refute. Either he just lies for fun or he assumes everyone is stupid but him or he actually can't tell the truth from a lie.
Dude, it's been 2 hours since you posted. Give them at least 24 hours before you condemn them as cowards.

P.S. They are "Trump Supporters", which means they are at work and cannot respond.

P.P.S. These are jokes. Calm the fuck down.



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I get it. OK, I will have to wait. I do love the excuse that it is the fault of the press. Guy outright lies but it is not his fault. It is the fault of the camera who caught the lie.

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Ultimark wrote: Superstar wrote: I think it's ridiculous that people sitting in front of a computer can expect a 71 year old man to remember everything he's said over the past 30 years, and call him a liar if he forgets something. But, I would say the same thing for Obama, Hillary, Bush, etc. The facts are that these are normal people that end up being the #1 face of the country. The fact that they remember to wipe their own ass is pretty impressive. So I don't pay all that much attention to what the news says about these people, because you know as well as I do that most of us would have no idea what these people say or have said if it weren't for the TV news channels that told us what pieces of shit/how great they are.Except in this case, that wasn't it.  This was simple math.  Every D was a no and 3 R's had come out against it.  They wouldn't even take the vote because they knew it wouldn't pass.  This wasn't cable news saying it.  It was Trump himself.  Like he had the biggest EV win since Reagan.  Factually incorrect. 
This isn't about forgetting unless counting to 3 becomes an issue. 


You were asking for the opinion of Trump Supporters.  I'm not really a Trump Supporter, but I'm also not a hater of Trump.  I gave you my opinion, whether it's right or wrong doesn't really matter.  It's my opinion, and I would offer the same answer for every other president, VP, candidate, etc.  Opinions don't mean much.

So if you really want my answer to the question without bringing up anybody else, I will say that just because you "know" that Trump didn't have the votes because three people had said that they would vote no, you didn't know for sure because there was no vote.  I can come out in the public and say that McDonalds should never bring back McRib because it's so bad for your health...but if McDonalds asked me to vote, I say FUCKYEAH bring back McRib.  Do you follow what I'm saying here?  I can't say that Trump was telling the truth, you can't say he was lying, because there was no outcome to the situation.  I'm not blaming you, the media, Trump, the guy in the hospital, or McDonalds...we simply don't have the facts.  However, if we assume you are 100% correct and those three guys were definitely not going to vote yes, and Trump knew that for a fact they weren't going to vote yes, then he just lied to everybody.  I tend to believe that somebody told him that he had "x" amount of support and he just took that and assumed it was enough, rather than checking the facts.  So to make a short answer long, I say "I just accept that he will be incorrect once in awhile".



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What exactly is it that you want? Okay, he's trying to save face. In doing so he lied. Big deal. When this guy is up for sainthood, he won't have my endorsement.


I just read today that refugee entrance has been slashed by half since last year. That's a huge win. Illegal crossing has plummeted since January. That's a monstrous victory. Okay, to know fault of his own, he didn't get ACA repealed. Back to the drawing board.

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But her emails. You went on about the shady shit she did and him and his family of nepotism and cabinet members have all lied over and over about the same stuff and your response is "Big deal".

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