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Yep, what a vicious bigot, a deplorable xenophobe Donald Trump is (and by extension everyone who voted for him) because he wanted a 6 month moratorium on immigrants and refugees from a small handful of countries that practice a certain faith of renown, a short pause to allow the U.S. a chance to review its vetting process. 

If nothing else, it was that move that proved Trump was, like, literally HITLER!  These peace loving people and their religion of peace have never done anything to arouse suspicion, never behaved in such a way that would suggest their culture is incompatible with a free, liberal society.  And they certainly had no track record of renting vehicles and driving them into crowds of infidels, treating them like so many Brian Bosworths to their Bo Jackson.  I just hope that the heteronormative white patriarchy doesn't smite the ever-innocent Imam-on-the-street in response to this latest hijacking of his otherwise pristine faith.  That's where our focus, our vigilance, must lie during this moment of peril for the beset upon Mohammadans!

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The guy was from Uzbekistan of all places and has lived in Florida and New Jersey for years. The travel ban has nothing to do with this. This is about as bright as liberals who scream about banning guns after an incident that wouldn’t have been stopped by banning guns. This is actually more proof that banning anyone or anything NEVER works because you can’t predict every situation. The only sure way to protect yourself is to kill yourself. 

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I would say the better comparison would be Isiah Robertson to their Earl Campbell



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I really doubt that any former Soviet states would ever be included in a ban, for it would affect Russians and business partners.



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Hundreds of people shot in Vegas and Trump proposed?  
I will answer it - nothing. 

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srossi wrote: The guy was from Uzbekistan of all places and has lived in Florida and New Jersey for years. The travel ban has nothing to do with this. This is about as bright as liberals who scream about banning guns after an incident that wouldn’t have been stopped by banning guns. This is actually more proof that banning anyone or anything NEVER works because you can’t predict every situation. The only sure way to protect yourself is to kill yourself. 
Muslim immigrant commits act of terror/mass murder and you're unwilling or incapable of drawing the logical conclusion?  Uzbekistan, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, do they not have something even more fundamental binding them than political borders?   I'm not suggesting that the temporary travel ban would have stopped this particular attack, but it's long past time to pull our heads out of our asses about the intentions of far too many Muslims -- intentions sanctioned by their holy texts.  How many fucking people have to hear the shrieks of Allahu Akbar while they're being run down, gunned down, blown up, or beheaded before you've had enough and admit that, in the parlance of the left, it's time to have a national conversation about whether it's a good idea to import even a single Muslim.  You may be willing to play Russian roulette with your kids and neighbors, but I'm not. 

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Franchise wrote: I would say the better comparison would be Isiah Robertson to their Earl Campbell
Duly noted.

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KGB wrote: Yep, what a vicious bigot, a deplorable xenophobe Donald Trump is (and by extension everyone who voted for him) because he wanted a 6 month moratorium on immigrants and refugees from a small handful of countries that practice a certain faith of renown, a short pause to allow the U.S. a chance to review its vetting process. 

If nothing else, it was that move that proved Trump was, like, literally HITLER!  These peace loving people and their religion of peace have never done anything to arouse suspicion, never behaved in such a way that would suggest their culture is incompatible with a free, liberal society.  And they certainly had no track record of renting vehicles and driving them into crowds of infidels, treating them like so many Brian Bosworths to their Bo Jackson.  I just hope that the heteronormative white patriarchy doesn't smite the ever-innocent Imam-on-the-street in response to this latest hijacking of his otherwise pristine faith.  That's where our focus, our vigilance, must lie during this moment of peril for the beset upon Mohammadans!


Vetting wouldn't have done anything here since the guy was from, as rossi stated, Uzbekistan. 

Curious, since you never really addressed the shooting in Vegas other than the timeline....

That was a white dude.  Born and bred American.  Why not address that hypocrisy?

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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: The guy was from Uzbekistan of all places and has lived in Florida and New Jersey for years. The travel ban has nothing to do with this. This is about as bright as liberals who scream about banning guns after an incident that wouldn’t have been stopped by banning guns. This is actually more proof that banning anyone or anything NEVER works because you can’t predict every situation. The only sure way to protect yourself is to kill yourself. 
Muslim immigrant commits act of terror/mass murder and you're unwilling or incapable of drawing the logical conclusion?  Uzbekistan, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, do they not have something even more fundamental binding them than political borders?   I'm not suggesting that the temporary travel ban would have stopped this particular attack, but it's long past time to pull our heads out of our asses about the intentions of far too many Muslims -- intentions sanctioned by their holy texts.  How many fucking people have to hear the shrieks of Allahu Akbar while they're being run down, gunned down, blown up, or beheaded before you've had enough and admit that, in the parlance of the left, it's time to have a national conversation about whether it's a good idea to import even a single Muslim.  You may be willing to play Russian roulette with your kids and neighbors, but I'm not. 

Again, from Uzbekistan, we now know he was radicalized domestically, and you're talking about "drawing the logical conclusion"?  You're making no sense.   



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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: The guy was from Uzbekistan of all places and has lived in Florida and New Jersey for years. The travel ban has nothing to do with this. This is about as bright as liberals who scream about banning guns after an incident that wouldn’t have been stopped by banning guns. This is actually more proof that banning anyone or anything NEVER works because you can’t predict every situation. The only sure way to protect yourself is to kill yourself. 
Muslim immigrant commits act of terror/mass murder and you're unwilling or incapable of drawing the logical conclusion?  Uzbekistan, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, do they not have something even more fundamental binding them than political borders?   I'm not suggesting that the temporary travel ban would have stopped this particular attack, but it's long past time to pull our heads out of our asses about the intentions of far too many Muslims -- intentions sanctioned by their holy texts.  How many fucking people have to hear the shrieks of Allahu Akbar while they're being run down, gunned down, blown up, or beheaded before you've had enough and admit that, in the parlance of the left, it's time to have a national conversation about whether it's a good idea to import even a single Muslim.  You may be willing to play Russian roulette with your kids and neighbors, but I'm not. 

Again, from Uzbekistan, we now know he was radicalized domestically, and you're talking about "drawing the logical conclusion"?  You're making no sense.   


Are you really that obtuse?  I've just stated plainly that halting immigration from Muslim countries is a good first step in addressing the problem of Muslims that kill infidels.  And yet this relatively minor proposal has led to Trump being called literally Hitler.  
I'm not sure I can be any plainer.  Muslims have a habit of killing non-Muslims over religious differences, therefore it's logical to limit the number of Muslims in our country.  I don't suggest deportation, but I do think that closing the doors is a reasonable step.  And no, there's nothing unconstitutional about a religious test -- however porous it might prove in practice -- to immigration.  Whether it's the countries on Trump's initial list or a broader list that includes the likes of Uzbekistan, it's time to get serious about this shit.     

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DaNkinator wrote: KGB wrote: Yep, what a vicious bigot, a deplorable xenophobe Donald Trump is (and by extension everyone who voted for him) because he wanted a 6 month moratorium on immigrants and refugees from a small handful of countries that practice a certain faith of renown, a short pause to allow the U.S. a chance to review its vetting process. 

If nothing else, it was that move that proved Trump was, like, literally HITLER!  These peace loving people and their religion of peace have never done anything to arouse suspicion, never behaved in such a way that would suggest their culture is incompatible with a free, liberal society.  And they certainly had no track record of renting vehicles and driving them into crowds of infidels, treating them like so many Brian Bosworths to their Bo Jackson.  I just hope that the heteronormative white patriarchy doesn't smite the ever-innocent Imam-on-the-street in response to this latest hijacking of his otherwise pristine faith.  That's where our focus, our vigilance, must lie during this moment of peril for the beset upon Mohammadans!


Vetting wouldn't have done anything here since the guy was from, as rossi stated, Uzbekistan. 

Curious, since you never really addressed the shooting in Vegas other than the timeline....

That was a white dude.  Born and bred American.  Why not address that hypocrisy?

What hypocrisy?  Explain to me how the motivations behind and the solutions for these two incidents are similar and we can have that conversation. 

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For one, we don't know the motives behind the Vegas shooter. So you can't use that as a basis for a starting point. The fact is, an American shot 600 people in an act of domestic terrorism.

The fact is a guy who was vetted, and has lived here for 7 years, committed an act of terrorism.

We've had several mass shootings/killings over the past few years and 98% of them were committed by Americans.

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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: The guy was from Uzbekistan of all places and has lived in Florida and New Jersey for years. The travel ban has nothing to do with this. This is about as bright as liberals who scream about banning guns after an incident that wouldn’t have been stopped by banning guns. This is actually more proof that banning anyone or anything NEVER works because you can’t predict every situation. The only sure way to protect yourself is to kill yourself. 
Muslim immigrant commits act of terror/mass murder and you're unwilling or incapable of drawing the logical conclusion?  Uzbekistan, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, do they not have something even more fundamental binding them than political borders?   I'm not suggesting that the temporary travel ban would have stopped this particular attack, but it's long past time to pull our heads out of our asses about the intentions of far too many Muslims -- intentions sanctioned by their holy texts.  How many fucking people have to hear the shrieks of Allahu Akbar while they're being run down, gunned down, blown up, or beheaded before you've had enough and admit that, in the parlance of the left, it's time to have a national conversation about whether it's a good idea to import even a single Muslim.  You may be willing to play Russian roulette with your kids and neighbors, but I'm not. 

Again, from Uzbekistan, we now know he was radicalized domestically, and you're talking about "drawing the logical conclusion"?  You're making no sense.   


Are you really that obtuse?  I've just stated plainly that halting immigration from Muslim countries is a good first step in addressing the problem of Muslims that kill infidels.  And yet this relatively minor proposal has led to Trump being called literally Hitler.  
I'm not sure I can be any plainer.  Muslims have a habit of killing non-Muslims over religious differences, therefore it's logical to limit the number of Muslims in our country.  I don't suggest deportation, but I do think that closing the doors is a reasonable step.  And no, there's nothing unconstitutional about a religious test -- however porous it might prove in practice -- to immigration.  Whether it's the countries on Trump's initial list or a broader list that includes the likes of Uzbekistan, it's time to get serious about this shit.     

Absolutely none of this will prevent people who are radicalized here, both Americans and non-Americans, from committing terror attacks.  You'd have to turn us into North Korea with 100% closed borders and 100% control over the media and Intranet to maybe prevent that from happening, and even that isn't a sure thing.  I'd prefer the occasional terror attack myself.  Are you so obtuse that you don't realize that the terrorists aren't that dumb and have evolved their recruiting and attack methodologies?  We're dealing with more than just "the usual suspects" now.   

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Is he related to that vicious, sadistic heel Skandar Akbar?



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Superstar wrote: Is he related to that vicious, sadistic heel Skandar Akbar?You mean Billy Whitewolf?

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