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 Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2017 04:39 pm
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Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.


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DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.




How? He fell on his sword. Go back to chasing Russian spies.

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ABC has reported that Flynn reached out to the Russians per instructions from Donald Trump. So far, they are the only news outlet running with that. NBC and CNN are not from what I can see. NBC hasn't even mentioned that. Probably trying to verify.

Sorry BT - the only reason for Flynn to get a sweet deal was to turn on either Jared or Trump or probably both. They are not letting him plead guilty to this one charge for no reason. They have a boat load of stuff. This is Fed 101.

Now, it gets ugly.

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Basically Mueller would only be interested if Flynn was willing to flip on someone else. There are only a few left in the chain. Pence? Nah, he was working on the domestic stuff in the transition. That leaves only 2 - Jared and Trump.

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In other words, he is NOT falling on his sword. Just the opposite. He is taking the sword and shoving it up someone else's ass.

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Someone check on Travis. Better yet. Don't.



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BlueThunder wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.




How? He fell on his sword. Go back to chasing Russian spies.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.  Your willful ignorance has morphed into straight up stupidity.

But that's not really news around here.

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Ultimark wrote: Basically Mueller would only be interested if Flynn was willing to flip on someone else. There are only a few left in the chain. Pence? Nah, he was working on the domestic stuff in the transition. That leaves only 2 - Jared and Trump.
Jared has fall guy written all over him. If Trump’s presidency winds up getting his daughter’s husband thrown in jail, I’m going to laugh my ass off. But that does clear the way for Trump finally marrying Ivanka. 



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srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: Basically Mueller would only be interested if Flynn was willing to flip on someone else. There are only a few left in the chain. Pence? Nah, he was working on the domestic stuff in the transition. That leaves only 2 - Jared and Trump.
Jared has fall guy written all over him. If Trump’s presidency winds up getting his daughter’s husband thrown in jail, I’m going to laugh my ass off. But that does clear the way for Trump finally marrying Ivanka. 
That's fucking sick and I would say impossible except that given what has happened already,  I guess nothing is out of the realm of possibility.  His supporters would find something in the Old Testament to justify it like they justified Moore being with a 14 year old from the New Testament.  

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For some reason the ending of the Warriors is ringing in my end except that the guy is chanting, "Jared, come out and plaaayyyyyy".

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DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.



*finishes up 'marking' DaKinator's words.  Puts popcorn in the microwave...*
 
Is there some way we can set a thread to pop up to the top of this sub-board on January 19th, 2025?

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DaNkinator wrote: BlueThunder wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.




How? He fell on his sword. Go back to chasing Russian spies.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.  Your willful ignorance has morphed into straight up stupidity.

But that's not really news around here.


Asking Flynn to reach out to Russia after the election proves collusion to steal the election?

Put your sock away and stop stroking.

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KGB wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.



*finishes up 'marking' DaKinator's words.  Puts popcorn in the microwave...*
 
Is there some way we can set a thread to pop up to the top of this sub-board on January 19th, 2025?

#1 at this point I see no scenario where Trump actually gets removed from office even if he’s impeached. He and his staff and supporters can talk circles around facts until long after he’s dead. 

#2 forciby removing him from office could be the worst thing that ever happens as his supporters will go apeshit and multiply by the perceived overthrow and surely someone even worse will rise to power. Just let him finish his term accomplishing nothing and let it blow over. The shine is already off of him with many who voted for him. His biggest supporters will never turn on him, but that’s less than 10% of the country. 

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BlueThunder wrote: DaNkinator wrote: BlueThunder wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.




How? He fell on his sword. Go back to chasing Russian spies.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.  Your willful ignorance has morphed into straight up stupidity.

But that's not really news around here.


Asking Flynn to reach out to Russia after the election proves collusion to steal the election?

Put your sock away and stop stroking.


See, you're so misinformed that you're missing key points.

There is more than sufficient evidence that Flynn was brought on in (By Kushner and thus Trump) order to communicate with Russia about lifting sanctions, changing the GOP's platform long before Trump was even voted as the candidate for them.  

I can give you tons of links to all of this info (sincere offer), but something tells me that your mind is already made up and no amount of evidence will ever convince you.

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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Mark it down.   Today gets the ball rolling towards Trump and Pence as well, going down.



*finishes up 'marking' DaKinator's words.  Puts popcorn in the microwave...*
 
Is there some way we can set a thread to pop up to the top of this sub-board on January 19th, 2025?

#1 at this point I see no scenario where Trump actually gets removed from office even if he’s impeached. He and his staff and supporters can talk circles around facts until long after he’s dead. 

#2 forciby removing him from office could be the worst thing that ever happens as his supporters will go apeshit and multiply by the perceived overthrow and surely someone even worse will rise to power. Just let him finish his term accomplishing nothing and let it blow over. The shine is already off of him with many who voted for him. His biggest supporters will never turn on him, but that’s less than 10% of the country. 

1. I agree with that point.  The Democrats will have to run someone who can win.  Trump, to me is a clear and present danger yet you will never get enough R's in the Senate to agree.
2.  Agree in theory but his support is much higher than 10%.  At this point, I would guess his rock bottom is 32 to 34%.  He has tested that several times and bounced.  
There reality is that there is no mechanism other than the 25th Amendment to remove him.  Given his odd behavior, that is not out of the realm of possibility but I don't think we are close to that...yet. 

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