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srossi wrote: Erick Von Erich wrote: Oh...I kinda' liked "Martial Law". With Sammo Hung and (later) Arseniooooooo Hall.

I wanted to bang the blonde detective chick who was in the first few episodes.

I don't remember her but I know there was an incredibly hot Asian chick on this show.

That was Kelly Hu.



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Big Garea Fan wrote: Benlen wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Of course a ton of '80s sitcoms that are fondly looked back on today were just atrocious.  "Full House", "Perfect Strangers", "Growing Pains", these are impossible to watch now other than for nostalgia and wondering what people were thinking that not just kids but even adults of the '80s were watching this stuff.

Not just sitcoms. The standard of TV drama today compared to the 80s and 90s is night and day. Shows that were staples back in the day that wouldn't get past mid-season today. Even successful shows like Baywatch and Walker, Texas Ranger would have no chance today. Then you have the dross like Thunder in Paradise, Martial Law and Street Hawk.
What? You didn't like Martial Law? LOL .  It was so bad I had to watch

Martial Law kicked ass! It can thank Jackie Chan for its television run since Chan had recently broke onto the US movie scene with "Rumble In The Bronx". Plus it had a good timeslot partner with Walker, Texas Ranger.

Gotta give Sammo Hung props! Big dude his size able to do a backflip? Unreal!
Sammo Hung and Jackie Chan were stunt men for Bruce Lee. If you watch Enter the Dragon , Hung was fighting Lee while the monks were watching. Chan was fighting Lee in the cave and Lee snapped his neck.
Sammo Hung spoofed Enter the Dragon with his version called Enter the fat Dragon.

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Nearly all of the "reality" show crap that is on today. I can't think of any good ones other than "Survivor" and "Amazing Race" but I haven't watched an episode of either of them for at least 10 years.

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Big Garea Fan wrote: Nearly all of the "reality" show crap that is on today. I can't think of any good ones other than "Survivor" and "Amazing Race" but I haven't watched an episode of either of them for at least 10 years.
Reality tv has always been shit and is responsible for the downfall of society. But since we are on the subject. Why the fuck is Keeping up with the Kardashians still on the air.

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srossi wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: Arnold_OldSchool wrote: srossi wrote: TerryWWWF wrote: "Two Broke Girls"
Good call, what a horrendous show.  And it lasted way longer than it had any right to.  And it was a show all about hipsters in Brooklyn that was filmed in California with the worst NY sets I've ever seen.
But... tits

The one with the tits was ugly as balls. The blonde without the tits was actually the attractive one. See,
See, we can't even agree on that.  I'd take Kat Dennings any day of the week, but great call on the show Two Broke Girls.  The show is a total affront to the human race.  I unfortunately caught a couple episodes at dinner time when I forgot to change the channel from the previous show.  The show typifies the character one says something air headed, character two replies with an inuendo-laden punchline style of writing.  Completely bereft of actual situational humor. 


For once in my life I agree with KGB.  
Your take on the show is correct.  One person says a line and Kat zings them with an obvious come back.


It was a formula that was hugely successful with "Two and a Half Men", and I was embarrassed for America that it was so popular.

There is a new show like that too.  I'm gonna sound like the girl from Clerks but...
It's about a family and has the big-titted sister from Mike and Molly and Deitrich Bader or whatever his fucking name is from the Drew Carey Show.  Character speaks...Mom hits them with a zinger. Then wait for the next zinger.  I wanted to like but the shit is so contrived and you can see the zinger coming from a mile away.



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Finally someone agrees with me! I'm in the same boat. Everyone who knows me, knows i love comics, and all things geek. So everyone recommends the show to me. I have tried about three times over the years to watch it, but can't. I really can't stand any of the characters. I hate that show. 

Erick Von Erich wrote One popular sitcom that I absolutely hate is "Big Bang Theory". Everyone tells me: "oh, you'd like that show, since you like nerd stuff!" I've tried, and while I do understand most of their (shitty) references, the best description of that show is probably: "nerd blackface". Nerd stuff or not, I think the jokes and gags on that show are awful. Thankfully I have a VERY small sample size, but I really despise that show.
 

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Mysterious wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Nearly all of the "reality" show crap that is on today. I can't think of any good ones other than "Survivor" and "Amazing Race" but I haven't watched an episode of either of them for at least 10 years.
Reality tv has always been shit and is responsible for the downfall of society. But since we are on the subject. Why the fuck is Keeping up with the Kardashians still on the air.

There are two vastly different types of shows that for some reason both are called "reality TV".  "Survivor", "Amazing Race", "Big Brother", etc. are modern-day game shows, nothing less, nothing more.  I think "Survivor" was the first and came on as a really unique summer show that got more popular than anyone could've imagined.  After all these years, it's obviously a bit played out, as are the others, but these shows were pretty great and original.  I think the rules, although obvious now, were a stroke of genius at the time.  Voting people out and then making them vote for the winner is a cool concept that doesn't get as much credit as it deserves because it's been copied so much now. 

Then you have the Kardashians, Real Housewives. Jersey Shore, all the WWE shows, and a million other ones that have popped up with pseudo-celebrities and non-celebrities which all have the basic premise of rich people with nothing to do except create drama out of nothing, 99% of which is totally fake and as scripted as any sitcom, but cheaper to produce.  Those are the shows that are just awful.  I think "The Osbournes" might have been the first really popular one of these and then Paris Hilton and Lionel Richie's daughter had one around the same time and it just went from there.  Just pathetic stuff.

There's actually a third category, which are the shows like "Bar Rescue" or similar ones where an "expert" comes in to help a failing business or give it a makeover.  These are the bread-and-butter of some cable TV stations, cheap content that draws eyes and you can binge-watch on a lazy Sunday afternoon when you're only half paying attention.  There's a million of these, some better than others.  But really it's only the second category that is truly awful.

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"Survivor" and "Amazing Race" were big reasons I kinda' stopped watching wrestling from about 2000-2005. Nowadays, if I see "Amazing Race" on, I'll watch it.

Thinking back to 90's MTV, I remember "The Brothers Grunt" from 1994 being another absolutely shitty show. It was billed as a new animated show to compliment "Beavis & Butt-head", but it was wretched, gross, and devoid of humor.

The actual Brothers Grunt were all named after Vegas singers. They looked like something from "Scanners"-- white creatures with veins popping out all over their bodies. They didn't talk, either. Just made weird squealing or farting noises, like they were in constant pain.

The animated portions of the show would feature them running into more weird characters and having shenanigans. Then they'd show videos; a la "Beavis & Butt-head"; which would feature the Brothers Grunt running across the screen and making farts noises.

It had a well-hyped premiere in September or October of 1994. In less than a month, the show began airing less and was pretty much pulled, completely, from MTV's schedule by the end of the year.

Oh well. MTV will always have "Remote Control" and "Beavis & Butt-head" as their positive contributions to society.

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Even successful shows like Baywatch and Walker, Texas Ranger would have no chance today.

I think they'd both still be successful.  Neither was meant to be good.  Baywatch was soft core porn and Walker was basically glorified violence.  There's always a place for that stuff on TV. 

Where the difference in dramas really stand out is with TV shows that were supposed to be well-written masterpieces, like Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue, which of course were fantastic for the day but don't hold a candle to the top dramas (all on premium cable) that we have today in terms of writing, complexity, or character development.  But network dramas are still just awful.  Who could watch "Bones" without busting out laughing, and that's been around for years? 
 
I'm not sure you could necessarily classify it as a drama, but Emergency!, from the 1970's, was a very well written and -- to my eyes -- fairly realistic take on the experience of firefighters, paramedics, and ER doctors.   



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Erick Von Erich wrote:
Oh well. MTV will always have "Remote Control" and "Beavis & Butt-head" as their positive contributions to society.

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Big Bang Theory. Really unless you're a true scientific nerd, how could anyone understand this show and find it funny. Yet it's been on forever. If they're that smart how come they can't get really high paying jobs and move out of their apartment. The dumb blond waitress across the hall can afford the same place as them.

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Mysterious wrote: Big Bang Theory. Really unless you're a true scientific nerd, how could anyone understand this show and find it funny. Yet it's been on forever. If they're that smart how come they can't get really high paying jobs and move out of their apartment. The dumb blond waitress across the hall can afford the same place as them.

The first series was full of science jokes, and it was pretty funny. After than, they went broader and everything became sci-fi and fantasy jokes. When everyone got a girlfriend, it became just another sitcom. They have answered the question about the money in some episodes, and Penny's apartment is way smaller that the guys' place. I thought the first couple of series were okay to good, but it's been on too long now. Almost by definition, the most popular sitcom will be some lowest common denominator bullshit.

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Even successful shows like Baywatch and Walker, Texas Ranger would have no chance today.

I think they'd both still be successful.  Neither was meant to be good.  Baywatch was soft core porn and Walker was basically glorified violence.  There's always a place for that stuff on TV. 



I don't think shows that aren't meant to be good get made anymore.



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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Even successful shows like Baywatch and Walker, Texas Ranger would have no chance today.

I think they'd both still be successful.  Neither was meant to be good.  Baywatch was soft core porn and Walker was basically glorified violence.  There's always a place for that stuff on TV. 



I don't think shows that aren't meant to be good get made anymore.

Then I don't know how to explain most of what's on network TV.  I guess they think that shit's good.



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