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Kriss wrote: Mysterious wrote: Big Bang Theory. Really unless you're a true scientific nerd, how could anyone understand this show and find it funny. Yet it's been on forever. If they're that smart how come they can't get really high paying jobs and move out of their apartment. The dumb blond waitress across the hall can afford the same place as them.

The first series was full of science jokes, and it was pretty funny. After than, they went broader and everything became sci-fi and fantasy jokes. When everyone got a girlfriend, it became just another sitcom. They have answered the question about the money in some episodes, and Penny's apartment is way smaller that the guys' place. I thought the first couple of series were okay to good, but it's been on too long now. Almost by definition, the most popular sitcom will be some lowest common denominator bullshit.

I didn't have a problem with their apartments like in "Friends" or many other shows.  Even "Roseanne" had a pretty nice house considering how poor they were.  Howard should have money as an aerospace engineer and they've never said he doesn't, he was just a mama's boy who lived with his mother and then inherited her house when she died in real life.  Rajesh has family money from India until he was cut off, and they addressed that.  Leonard and Sheldon should easily be able to split that apartment, they work off of grants and stuff which is realistic but no one ever said they were poor.  And as mentioned Penny's apartment was a lot smaller than theirs and I guess she could swing that place as well as she could anywhere else working at the Cheesecake Factory.   

The only sitcom in history I've ever seen where the poor people really lived in a place where poor people would live was "The Honeymooners".  That was a shit one bedroom apartment that was bare bones and everything looked dirty and broken down.  After the '50s, I guess someone decided that everything had to look nicer on TV even if it wasn't realistic.



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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Mysterious wrote: Big Bang Theory. Really unless you're a true scientific nerd, how could anyone understand this show and find it funny. Yet it's been on forever. If they're that smart how come they can't get really high paying jobs and move out of their apartment. The dumb blond waitress across the hall can afford the same place as them.

The first series was full of science jokes, and it was pretty funny. After than, they went broader and everything became sci-fi and fantasy jokes. When everyone got a girlfriend, it became just another sitcom. They have answered the question about the money in some episodes, and Penny's apartment is way smaller that the guys' place. I thought the first couple of series were okay to good, but it's been on too long now. Almost by definition, the most popular sitcom will be some lowest common denominator bullshit.

I didn't have a problem with their apartments like in "Friends" or many other shows.  Even "Roseanne" had a pretty nice house considering how poor they were.  Howard should have money as an aerospace engineer and they've never said he doesn't, he was just a mama's boy who lived with his mother and then inherited her house when she died in real life.  Rajesh has family money from India until he was cut off, and they addressed that.  Leonard and Sheldon should easily be able to split that apartment, they work off of grants and stuff which is realistic but no one ever said they were poor.  And as mentioned Penny's apartment was a lot smaller than theirs and I guess she could swing that place as well as she could anywhere else working at the Cheesecake Factory.   

The only sitcom in history I've ever seen where the poor people really lived in a place where poor people would live was "The Honeymooners".  That was a shit one bedroom apartment that was bare bones and everything looked dirty and broken down.  After the '50s, I guess someone decided that everything had to look nicer on TV even if it wasn't realistic.


Matt Groening has said that they stopped doing Simpsons episodes about the family being poor after the second season. The Simpsons have a huge house and two cars and they decided that Homer, incompetent as he was, was well paid.

I think that it just makes it easier to film, so sitcom characters all end up living in apartments with enormous living spaces.



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Regarding the house that they had on "Rosanne" and the apartment on "Friends" having them be that big, especially in the latter case, is a necessity in order to properly shoot the TV show.

With a three camera shoot, you need room to move the cameras around and room for the characters to move around too. Plus you can have two characters in the kitchen and another as close as the couch with some separation. It requires willful suspension of disbelief.

With "Rosanne", you'd be surprised how much house you can get in some of these Midwestern industrial towns and small cities, not just now but in more prosperous times as well. I've never thought that house was unfeasibly big or nice.

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I'm not sure how much each of the "Friends" cast made on the show, but it's always been a head scratcher for me how they could afford those apartments. I assume they are close to Central Park (since they hung out at Central Perk coffee shop).

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chrob61 wrote: I'm not sure how much each of the "Friends" cast made on the show, but it's always been a head scratcher for me how they could afford those apartments. I assume they are close to Central Park (since they hung out at Central Perk coffee shop).
I always thought so too but was told that they actually lived in Greenwich Village, which is downtown.  But none of the establishing shots looked downtown, which is likely because people in L.A. don't know or care.  Now that's not remotely cheap either, but it's not quite as crazy as living across the street from Central Park, which is where Alex Rodriguez types live.

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srossi wrote: chrob61 wrote: I'm not sure how much each of the "Friends" cast made on the show, but it's always been a head scratcher for me how they could afford those apartments. I assume they are close to Central Park (since they hung out at Central Perk coffee shop).
I always thought so too but was told that they actually lived in Greenwich Village, which is downtown.  But none of the establishing shots looked downtown, which is likely because people in L.A. don't know or care.  Now that's not remotely cheap either, but it's not quite as crazy as living across the street from Central Park, which is where Alex Rodriguez types live.


They definitely addressed this in Friends. Monica's aunt used to live in her apartment and it was under rent control. Chandler was getting paid loads of money, and Joey wasn't paying any rent to him.



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Jennifer Aniston was blowing the landlord. Phoebe, too.

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chrob61 wrote: I'm not sure how much each of the "Friends" cast made on the show, but it's always been a head scratcher for me how they could afford those apartments. I assume they are close to Central Park (since they hung out at Central Perk coffee shop).The only part of that show that never made sense to me was how Ross being a dorky dinosaur teacher managed to marry three beautiful women and even date one of his hot students.

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How the fuck Carrie Bradshaw afford her apartment and Jimmy Choo shoes while working as a columnist at some shitty second rate paper?



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: How the fuck Carrie Bradshaw afford her apartment and Jimmy Choo shoes while working as a columnist at some shitty second rate paper?
She rented herself out on weekends to little girls wanting to learn how to ride horses.  It was mentioned in one of the early episodes. 



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So since we are questioning some stuff on shows now....
Who was the P.A. announcer on MASH and why did they NEVER show him in the 11 year history of the show? I'm not referring to Radar. And where did he announce from? Wasn't the only speaker in Radars office?
"Sorry Captain Hunnicut, they made me do it!"
Any other MASH fans ever wonder this?

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The invisible PA announcer from MASH was a holdover from the movie that was more plausible there because the 4077th in the film was presented as a much larger place with a much larger population, so it was easier to conceive him being hidden away someplace that we didn't see. The TV series had a smaller main cast, fewer supporting players, and an assortment of extras in a smaller space with a few standard sets. It made this anomaly harder to reason with and accept.

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TerryWWWF wrote: Jennifer Aniston was blowing the landlord. Phoebe, too.
Aniston was blowing Phoebe?



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chrob61 wrote: I'm not sure how much each of the "Friends" cast made on the show, but it's always been a head scratcher for me how they could afford those apartments. I assume they are close to Central Park (since they hung out at Central Perk coffee shop).Monica and Rachel lived in the apartment that Monica's grandmother lived in. Monica was subletting illegally basically and it was rent controlled.
Chandler actually had a real job so could probably afford where he and Joey lived all by himself which he in a sense was as Joey never seemed to have a dime..
Ross would have been making decent money.
Phoebe is the strange one as her major source of income seemed to be singing " smelly cat".
What's most interesting to me is how competent different  Joey and Chandler's place was from Monica and Rachel despite being across the hall from each other.



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Angelic Assassin wrote: TerryWWWF wrote: Jennifer Aniston was blowing the landlord. Phoebe, too.
Aniston was blowing Phoebe?

That's kinda hot.



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