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 Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2019 10:06 pm
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-hospitalized-empire-actor-attacked-maga-hat-possible-hate-crime-chicago-2019-01-29/

Amazing how some of my Facebook friends and a certain message board bought this hook, line, and sinker. The BS meter went off the chart once I first heard this. Originally, it was stated that the attackers were wearing MAGA hats and told him this was MAGA country. Chicago is MAGA country? Boy how I wish. First off, this is a yuppieville. That community isn't exactly known for being conservative. Secondly, just a stone throw from the area, there are bridges were bums hang out. I do not doubt he was beaten. I think he may have either tried buying drugs from the wrong guy or maybe it was a gay tryst gone bad.

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Maybe he was a Morton Downey Jr. fan growing up? Considering the neighboring hood, I would tend to agree what Thunder said in his last sentence.



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The MAGA stuff was already disproved, although liberals are still running with it. No credible source is still reporting that and the investigators said they heard no such thing. As far as him being beaten, he clearly was but my first thought about the racist AND the homophobic slurs is that it had to be by people who knew him, or he he made that part up. No one would see him on the street and know he was gay. He’s not that big a star. So I’m thinking this was no random attack. 

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Police have combed closed circuit cameras in the area and while there is footage of him walking around, there's none of a beating taking place.  Perhaps some will turn up, but given the long and storied track record of hate crime hoaxes (primarily since Obama took office; I wonder why?) I'm betting none exist.
And naturally, when the story first came out, the usual suspects bought it in toto and used it as a cudgel to attack anyone not properly woke.  I guess that answers the question as to whether or not the left and the media (BIRM) were at all chastened by getting the Covington High School story so spectacularly wrong.



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Jesus, even President Trump issued a boilerplate denouncement of this. He, of all people, should be aware that in general these things are not what they seem. Jussie claims that he and his manager were on the phone when the attack happened but he's not willing to let police view his call logs to verify. Why not?

Why do I feel it's just as likely that this rope was used in erotic asphyxiation as it was for a "lynching"?



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I saw this on the news the other day and it seemed suspicious to me. I’m curious to see if this goes anywhere?



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I love how people get offended on Twitter or Facebook at the notion that this is fake. As if these hoaxes don't happen all the time.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org

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I read yesterday that he went home and didn't want to press charges but his agent convinced him to.  When the police showed up, he still had the rope around his neck.

*sigh*  OK, so let's use the slightest degree of common sense here just based on those facts and discounting the hundreds of hours of video that reveal nothing.  Yes, maybe someone would keep the rope as evidence.  But probably not if they weren't planning on reporting it.  And under no circumstances would a credible person keep it around their neck that whole time (or take it off and then put it back on) to put on a show for the police.

Nothing about this passes the smell test and this is going to be debunked.  This is so annoying because I hate Trump and everything liberals do is to ensure his re-election. 



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The TMZ tv show made this out to be a huge story about a hate crime of course. They show a close up of his face and Harvey and his boys are nearly in tears over the guy. He had one small scratch under his eye, and a very slightly swollen cheek. Harvey oversold everything, including describing the scratch as a cut. It was not a cut. TMZ is as guilty as anyone in this fake hate crime epidemic.



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What we all know to be true is coming out into the open. Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report. Cue the race riots in 5...4...3...


https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/02/12/jussie-smollett-attack-false-report/



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KGB wrote: Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report.
Where does it say that?  The article you linked to says, "Thus far, police have said they have no reason to doubt Smollett’s allegations, and are not investigating him."



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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report.
Where does it say that?  The article you linked to says, "Thus far, police have said they have no reason to doubt Smollett’s allegations, and are not investigating him."

Interesting.  They've edited the title and the article without noting it.  When I first posted this, it read:
 
According to multiple reports, Smollett had refused to turn over his phone to officers after telling officers he was speaking with his manager at the time of the ambush.

 
Smollett has now reportedly released a heavily redacted record of his calls to police however, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said the records "are not sufficient and do not meet the burden of a criminal investigation," according to the Chicago Tribune.

 
The growing lack of evidence in the case has reportedly pushed Chicago police to even consider charging Smollett with filing a false report. CBS Chicago and other local outlets report that Johnson still wants Smollett treated as a victim, but will pursue charges against the actor if the case is proven to be a hoax.
 
EDIT:  Actually, it looks like they redirected the link.  If you look at the link I posted, it was from the NYC CBS affiliate, but now it takes you to the Chicago affiliate's website. 


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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report.
Where does it say that?  The article you linked to says, "Thus far, police have said they have no reason to doubt Smollett’s allegations, and are not investigating him."

Interesting.  They've edited the title and the article without noting it.  When I first posted this, it read:
 
According to multiple reports, Smollett had refused to turn over his phone to officers after telling officers he was speaking with his manager at the time of the ambush.

 
Smollett has now reportedly released a heavily redacted record of his calls to police however, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said the records "are not sufficient and do not meet the burden of a criminal investigation," according to the Chicago Tribune.

 
The growing lack of evidence in the case has reportedly pushed Chicago police to even consider charging Smollett with filing a false report. CBS Chicago and other local outlets report that Johnson still wants Smollett treated as a victim, but will pursue charges against the actor if the case is proven to be a hoax.
 
EDIT:  Actually, it looks like they redirected the link.  If you look at the link I posted, it was from the NYC CBS affiliate, but now it takes you to the Chicago affiliate's website. 



That's bizarre.  WE obviously know where this is heading but they need to be 100% sure before they use inflammatory language that can be construed as blaming the victim.



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What was said that you consider inflammatory?



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He's a liar!




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