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I guess so. He's a helluva actor, no doubt. I just feel he's in way too many shitty movies. Christopher Walken too.



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Spatulapup wrote: He has called him out on his rotten behavior and how well he inspires the rotten behavior of a good portion of the bigots in the states. Racism is likely touchy with him. It's funny people have a problem with celebs talking politics when they elected a celebrity. 

Truth be told I didn’t vote for Trump and I don’t mind celebrities making comments but I do have an issue with wealthy people saying we as a country should provide a low cost healthcare plan so their relatives don’t bother them for their money.



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Franchise wrote: Spatulapup wrote: He has called him out on his rotten behavior and how well he inspires the rotten behavior of a good portion of the bigots in the states. Racism is likely touchy with him. It's funny people have a problem with celebs talking politics when they elected a celebrity. 

Truth be told I didn’t vote for Trump and I don’t mind celebrities making comments but I do have an issue with wealthy people saying we as a country should provide a low cost healthcare plan so their relatives don’t bother them for their money.

Democratic Socialism is fabulously wealthy people believing that middle class taxpayers should support their freeloading relatives instead of themselves.

SLJ has still been in mostly kick-ass movies though. 

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Heenan Fan wrote: I guess so. He's a helluva actor, no doubt. I just feel he's in way too many shitty movies. Christopher Walken too. Yeah Chris' career veered off the road quite a few years ago. I think Tom Cruise has been pretty good at working a lot and still making good choices. Although he has stinker now and then.  Leo DiCaprio is the most consistent when it comes to quality movies. But he is very careful about what chooses to do. You won't see him in  a romantic comedy or a super hero movie.

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For some reason I’m having a hard time quoting srossi’s post on my phone but I agree completely which is why I find it so weird that their is this perceived ground swell that thinks some type of a socialist government is awesome.


I saw a YouTube video recently with some guy asking college kids if they would support a socialist grading system where their excess GPA would go to under performers and the kids thought that was unfair because they worked for A’s so why should someone else benefit from their hard work.


I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. I also don’t think those unwilling to work should be paid a basic income. Everyone capable to work should work even if it’s something minimal like litter removal or general city cleaning to receive government benefits. I think their is a middle ground on all of this that could benefit everyone but until something reasonable is figured out I’m in favor of less government involvement.



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Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.

In other words, a 90% tax on the rich.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.

And if you make $20 million you pay 90% on $10 million and that's crazy.  The government isn't giving that money to the poor, they're spending it on all the things liberals hate anyway, namely the military (where even half of that gets "lost") and to overpay private contractors.  So I don't understand your point.  It's redistribution of wealth from the very rich and competent to the very rich and incompetent.  

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KGB wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.

In other words, a 90% tax on the rich.
I liked this thread a lot better when we were trying to reach on good Samuel L. Jackson movies in the last 20 years that weren't directed by Quinten Tarentino.


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srossi wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.

And if you make $20 million you pay 90% on $10 million and that's crazy.  The government isn't giving that money to the poor, they're spending it on all the things liberals hate anyway, namely the military (where even half of that gets "lost") and to overpay private contractors.  So I don't understand your point.  It's redistribution of wealth from the very rich and competent to the very rich and incompetent.  

I am in the middle of the road with the taxing percentages.   I do think it needs to be higher for the wealthy based on history, but I am not sure how much.   But, but, but, like rossi said that money is going to be wasted on things like slimy defense contractors and paybacks for lobbyists. It will not be used for things as tax relief for middle class families, infrastructure, roads or legitimate social programs.   So, in my mind, the discussion is moot. 

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srossi wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.

And if you make $20 million you pay 90% on $10 million and that's crazy.  The government isn't giving that money to the poor, they're spending it on all the things liberals hate anyway, namely the military (where even half of that gets "lost") and to overpay private contractors.  So I don't understand your point.  It's redistribution of wealth from the very rich and competent to the very rich and incompetent.  


The system is broken when you are crying for people who earn $20M a year. 

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The system is broken when people grow up thinking that they should be able to take from those that earn.



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That brings up the definition of “earn”.



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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Franchise wrote:

I’m not a hard ass; I think the government and we as people should help others less fortunate but I think a 90% tax on the rich is crazy. 

You do realize it's not a 90% tax on the rich, right?  It's 90% on the amount over the 10 Million Dollar cap.  If I make 10M my tax doesn't change.  If I make $10,000,001  I pay 90% on the extra dollar.

And if you make $20 million you pay 90% on $10 million and that's crazy.  The government isn't giving that money to the poor, they're spending it on all the things liberals hate anyway, namely the military (where even half of that gets "lost") and to overpay private contractors.  So I don't understand your point.  It's redistribution of wealth from the very rich and competent to the very rich and incompetent.  


The system is broken when you are crying for people who earn $20M a year. 

The system is broken when worthless people think they deserve what others have for no reason except they want it. 

You also wisely chose not to address my main point, which is that poor people never see tax dollars anyway. You just would prefer to flush money down the toilet so that “rich people” don’t have it, but the idea of poor people getting it is a pipedream. Have fun using that money to blow up more brown children though. Even Obama loved doing that. 

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