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WongLee wrote: I guess they needed someone to replace Cheap Trick after those guys finally all drop dead.
It must suck to be Cheap Trick and get billing behind Gojira at this point.  I think Cheap Trick over-tours.  I don't know if they need the money or if they just don't want to ever see their families, but they must be on the road almost 300 days a year, every year, since the '70s.  These guys will open for anyone, even Poison, or headline a flea market.  And on the rare day when Cheap Trick is off, Robin Zander does solo shows sometimes. 



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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: I guess they needed someone to replace Cheap Trick after those guys finally all drop dead.
It must suck to be Cheap Trick and get billing behind Gojira at this point.  I think Cheap Trick over-tours.  I don't know if they need the money or if they just don't want to ever see their families, but they must be on the road almost 300 days a year, every year, since the '70s.  These guys will open for anyone, even Poison, or headline a flea market.  And on the rare day when Cheap Trick is off, Robin Zander does solo shows sometimes.
300 nights a year is not an exaggeration. When they're opening, which is what they do most of the time, their setlist is beyond stale. I've seen them at least 15 times and when I caught them last year at Jones Beach they completely phoned it in. Rick Neilson even made a joke from the stage "it's a pleasure to be back at Jones Beach for the 472nd time". I too wonder why they are so hungry for money that they work harder than plantation workers.



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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: I guess they needed someone to replace Cheap Trick after those guys finally all drop dead.
It must suck to be Cheap Trick and get billing behind Gojira at this point.  I think Cheap Trick over-tours.  I don't know if they need the money or if they just don't want to ever see their families, but they must be on the road almost 300 days a year, every year, since the '70s.  These guys will open for anyone, even Poison, or headline a flea market.  And on the rare day when Cheap Trick is off, Robin Zander does solo shows sometimes.
300 nights a year is not an exaggeration. When they're opening, which is what they do most of the time, their setlist is beyond stale. I've seen them at least 15 times and when I caught them last year at Jones Beach they completely phoned it in. Rick Neilson even made a joke from the stage "it's a pleasure to be back at Jones Beach for the 472nd time". I too wonder why they are so hungry for money that they work harder than plantation workers.

I’ve seen them close to 20 times and paid to see them as a headliner maybe once. It’s always opening for someone else, at a festival, or doing a free summer park show. They must come to the NYC area alone 4-5 times a year. When other bands come twice, people complain that it’s oversaturation. 



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Cheap Trick open because they want to. I’ve heard Rick talk about it; they bring a crowd so they get paid good to come open big tours, they play an hour, get gone and are in their hotel or on the road by the time the headliner comes on..they WANT it this way..



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Married Jo wrote: Cheap Trick open because they want to. I’ve heard Rick talk about it; they bring a crowd so they get paid good to come open big tours, they play an hour, get gone and are in their hotel or on the road by the time the headliner comes on..they WANT it this way..
I'm sure there was some truth to that at one point, but it may be closer to delusion now.  The last few times I saw them open, for everyone from Poison to Heart, the place was pretty empty for their set.  How big a draw for the headliners could they be?  It's hard to get excited about seeing them at this point.  They're really over-exposed.  I'm a big fan and I'm sure when Zander or Nielsen die I'll be heartbroken and wish that I had taken every opportunity to see them 500 more times, but at this point I figure I've seen them so much I can always catch them in a couple of months. 

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By the way, this thread got me itching for a decent festival, but I can’t get away for a real trip this summer. So I decided on a last-minute trip to Philly shortly to see something called the MMR*B*Q. It’s a one-stage mini-festival with 8 bands: Shinedown, Evanescence, The Struts, Joan Jett, Fozzy, Glorious Sons, Bad Wolves, and a local band that won a contest. Pretty good lineup and only cost about $40 plus the hotel. My wife and son will do kid’s things while I’m there on Saturday and then we’ll all do something together on Sunday. I’m looking forward to it.



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It has been canceled

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/festivals/8509091/woodstock-50-festival-cancelled?fbclid=IwAR1SPtHawHCdYQJ5mKKVyTD8AL4-sVg34EW2eB6E11t2Eztvwt6qTEkWkuU



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No real reason given, but no surprise.



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The organizers are now denying that the festival was canceled and say they will sue their financial backers. What a clusterfuck.



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Is OG promoter Michael Lang involved in this?



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Yes, Michael Lang is acting as a promoter and has been very vocal about the show going on.

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It sounds like Dixie Carter is involved based on how fucked up this got.



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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woodstock-50-dentsu-aegis-amplifi-live-response-834737/

‘Incompetence and Contractual Breaches.’ Dentsu Fires Back at Woodstock Organizers

Amplifi Live, a subsidiary of Dentsu Aegis, claims Woodstock 50 cofounder Michael Lang breached the contract between the festival and investor repeatedly, often misrepresenting himself

In new court filings, Dentsu Aegis — once the financial backer behind Woodstock 50 — has fired back at the festival’s organizers. As of press time, the festival is set to take place in Watkins Glen, New York from August 16th – 18th with the Killers, Dead & Company and Jay-Z headlining.

Last week, Michael Lang, a cofounder of the original Woodstock and the driving force behind the 50th anniversary celebratory event, asked the New York Supreme Court for an injunction against Dentsu, demanding the return of nearly $18 million to its festival bank account and asking a judge to make the company honor its contract. Now Dentsu is claiming it had the right to take over and cancel the festival because of logistical worries and what it describes as Lang’s “misrepresentations, incompetence and contractual breaches.”

In the filing, Dentsu said that its live-events subsidiary, Amplifi Live, had followed the protocol set forth in the contract it had with the festival. It gave notice of what it believed were Lang’s breaches of contract and took “full control” of the festival, saying its correspondences with vendors have been factual and not disparaging. Moreover, the millions it took from the festival bank account, the company claims, were legally theirs. It went on to ask the court to send the matter to mediation and arbitration.

A representative for Lang did not immediately return Rolling Stone’s request for comment.

In the filing’s supporting claims, Dentsu claimed that Lang misrepresented many logistical benchmarks, including the number of people and who could attend Woodstock 50 when they began talks in the spring of 2018. Lang had hoped to bring in 150,000 people, said he’d begun work on getting a mass-gathering permit from New York State and would have a A-list lineup set by December 2018. But by December, the company learned that attendance would likely be 125,000, a number Lang continued to say would be the minimum. The festival’s producing partner, Superfly (which has since exited the fray), then told Amplifi that the venue could support only 75,000 people. Lang refused to accept the truth, according to the filing, and continued to promise to bring in more than 100,000 people.

The reduced number of prospective ticketholders affected the entire budget, according to the filing. Amplifi had earmarked around $25 million on artists to play the festival based on 150,000 ticket buyers. Amplifi later adjusted the number to $16 to $17 million and suggested reducing the festival from a three-stage event to two stages. But despite these recommendations, Lang continued to book artists for a three-stage event and spent, as reported in Lang’s filing last week, around $32 million. In booking the artists, Lang promised Amplifi would pay them, putting the financier in an awkward position and forcing it to pay beyond the budget. The company also claims that Lang offered contracts to artists worth more than $500,000, a number that would require Amplifi to agree to the fee, without its consent. Amplifi also claims that Woodstock 50 failed to book 12 artists by December 2018, securing not even one.

Then, Dentsu’s filing claims, Lang went roughshod over the agreement’s stipulations over expenses, making massive expenditures without the company’s approval. One of these was for a “publicity event” that cost $120,000, including talent.

The paperwork reports that the company decided there were enough breaches of contract that it had the right to exercise its option to cancel the festival. The company notified Lang and his partners of the breaches on April 17th in writing, giving them 10 days to fix them. When Lang did not do that, Amplifi says it took over the festival. It went on to say that Woodstock 50’s allegations of fraud against Amplifi were not true, as it offered no evidence. All this led to Amplifi announcing it was canceling the festival on April 29th. “Amplifi Live did not make this decision lightly but recognized that providing a safe and secure festival at this late date was virtually impossible,” the filing reads.

It added that the festival has yet to obtain a mass-gathering permit, a milestone the fest was supposed to pass by the end of 2018. To get that document, the festival would have to build a bridge and roads, create a traffic plan, obtain land for parking lots, create a drainage system for the water and bring aboard a number of security personnel. Although the festival had a conditional permit on April 22nd, the staff at Watkins Glen refused to sign it because of a lack of planning on the festival’s behalf, according to the filing. Superfly subsequently ended its relationship with Woodstock 50.

“The production company has quit, no permits have been issued, necessary roadwork has not begun, and there is no prospect for sufficient financing,” the filing reads. “As much as the parties might wish it otherwise, the festival contemplated by their agreement cannot happen and allowing it to go forward would only put the public at risk. The injunction sought by W50, even if there were a legal basis for it, cannot change that.”

A hearing on the matter is set to take place in Manhattan Monday afternoon.

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That is so bizarre. You would figure that Lang, who practically invented the rock festival genre, would have all his ducks in a row. Maybe after 50 years Michael Lang still has all his hippie sensibilities in place. Of course his way of doing business hasn't always been successful. From a pure business viewpoint Woodstock '69 lost money. Altamont is self explanatory. Woodstock '99 was a disaster. Much of what this guy touches turns into an unmitigated disaster.



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