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So they say.



I question the accuracy to be honest as the polls haven't been accurate for a long time now.

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Polls. Lol. Ask President Hillary about that.



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Honest question. How is polling done now days? Landlines are more and more rare as time goes on.

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Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.



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Polls are so inaccurate because every one of them have a slant. They have become propaganda instead of being an actual feel of how voters are trending.

Biden, in polls where he is a double digit leader, tend to be where no one under 50 is polled.

Polls mean shit look at the last election.

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BlueThunder wrote: Honest question. How is polling done now days? Landlines are more and more rare as time goes on.

That's why they haven't been accurate the past decade

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Way too early. When it comes to a one on one, then we will see what happens. If the election was held today, I really think Trump would win.

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He could lose by over 3 million votes and still get elected.



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katook wrote: He could lose by over 3 million votes and still get elected.Right - however it cannot be 3.5 million or above.  If that happens then PA, MI and Wi flip.  I was surprised he started in FL, not that it really matters much in the end.   I don't put much stock in the Biden poll.  I still think turnout will be huge in the panhandle and he will probably win FL again.   If not, then it is a short night.  
I decided to listen to him for the first time in several months.  The same nonsense.  The man makes no sense whatsoever on any account yet they eat it up.  That will not change. 

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Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.



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srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.


Correct.  They actually need “Trump” candidate from the left side.  Somebidy who will tell the Establishment dems that their days are over and also tell the over-zealous liberal side that they need a reality check.  



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Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.


Correct.  They actually need “Trump” candidate from the left side.  Somebidy who will tell the Establishment dems that their days are over and also tell the over-zealous liberal side that they need a reality check.  
They need him because the threat of him raises them money and keep the elites in power.  Ask Nancy Pelosi.

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Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.


Correct.  They actually need “Trump” candidate from the left side.  Somebidy who will tell the Establishment dems that their days are over and also tell the over-zealous liberal side that they need a reality check.  
There are not that many left.  The woke crowd controls the party, at least on both coasts.  I don't see the D's with that type of candidate.  Still, it is too early and if the economy slows then he could lose.  The Dems sure do make it easier on him. 

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Ultimark wrote: Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.


Correct.  They actually need “Trump” candidate from the left side.  Somebidy who will tell the Establishment dems that their days are over and also tell the over-zealous liberal side that they need a reality check.  
There are not that many left.  The woke crowd controls the party, at least on both coasts.  I don't see the D's with that type of candidate.  Still, it is too early and if the economy slows then he could lose.  The Dems sure do make it easier on him. 

I don't agree with this at all.  The woke crowd controls Twitter, they don't control the party.  If they controlled the party then Hillary wouldn't have won the nomination in 2016 and Biden wouldn't be the favorite now.  And the average Democrat voter are firmly part of the establishment and don't have much more respect for the woke candidates than they do for Republicans.  They're also much older than the people you find screeching on Twitter.

Of course, when complacent and arrogant, you get massive upsets like AOC beating Hillary's boy in NY, mostly because the establishment refused to even campaign against her or acknowledge her existance.  But Pelosi, Schumer, et al are fighting back and sabotaging those types of candidates now.

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srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.


Correct.  They actually need “Trump” candidate from the left side.  Somebidy who will tell the Establishment dems that their days are over and also tell the over-zealous liberal side that they need a reality check.  
There are not that many left.  The woke crowd controls the party, at least on both coasts.  I don't see the D's with that type of candidate.  Still, it is too early and if the economy slows then he could lose.  The Dems sure do make it easier on him. 

I don't agree with this at all.  The woke crowd controls Twitter, they don't control the party.  If they controlled the party then Hillary wouldn't have won the nomination in 2016 and Biden wouldn't be the favorite now.  And the average Democrat voter are firmly part of the establishment and don't have much more respect for the woke candidates than they do for Republicans.  They're also much older than the people you find screeching on Twitter.

Of course, when complacent and arrogant, you get massive upsets like AOC beating Hillary's boy in NY, mostly because the establishment refused to even campaign against her or acknowledge her existance.  But Pelosi, Schumer, et al are fighting back and sabotaging those types of candidates now.
I guess we will disagree.  On the coasts, I really think the party has taken a sharp turn left.  The fact that a guy like Sanders was so competitive in the primaries says it all to me about their direction.  He isn't even a Dem.  He is a socialist.  As for Biden, it is very early and he is ahead on name recognition.  I think that will vanish over time.  I guess his one shot is for Obama to campaign strong for him in the D primaries.  This could help in VA, NC, SC and GA where he needs the minority vote to turnout big.  Somehow, I don't see Obama doing that. 

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