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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2020 04:26 am
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Boomer 82 year old neighbors insist on having a compost pile in the backyard along with throwing bread and pastries out in the backyard for the squirrels.  The result is that mice are now crawling all over our  backyard.  They got in the house last summer so I was trapping one every other day.  Started noticing some activity near the basement door in March so I’ve been setting up and re-using traps.  Probably have killed10 since March.  Getting pissed with this situation.  We’ve got issues with these assholes next door already so it’s past the friendly phone call stage.
Anyone advice?  Picked up some more traps and some “pellets” at Lowe’s today.  Saw there is some kind of ultrasonic device you can plug in, but I’m guessing that may not work.  



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Tried one of those devices here, seemed to attract them more lol.
You could always live trap them and dump them on the neighbors front porch.
Seriously don't use glue traps, they are messy and you have to finish the job yourself often. Cruel way to catch them imo. The neck snap traps are still the best.Poison is ok but be mindful you could see a bloated crazy mouse come singling into your living room some day as the poison puts them down. Happened here once. The lady of the house was NOT impressed.

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The ultrasonic gadgets don't work

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khawk wrote: Tried one of those devices here, seemed to attract them more lol.
You could always live trap them and dump them on the neighbors front porch.
Seriously don't use glue traps, they are messy and you have to finish the job yourself often. Cruel way to catch them imo. The neck snap traps are still the best.Poison is ok but be mindful you could see a bloated crazy mouse come singling into your living room some day as the poison puts them down. Happened here once. The lady of the house was NOT impressed.

Yeah, the glue traps are a mess.  I caught one and tried to cut off that portion of the trap so I could re-use the rest of it.  Scissors and glove basically destroyed.  That glue is military grade.  This is about six weeks ago.  I threw the cut off part over the fence.
Trapped two today, put them in a ziplock bag and threw them over the fence.
We’ll see if they get the message.  



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Have also heard horror stories about the mice getting the poison and then going to sleep inside the house in a wall or vent and then the place stinks for months.

These neck snap baited traps (I’m using the plastic ones) are definitely re-usable. I just make sure to wear a glove when I’m adding a little bit of peanut butter. I’m trapping them by the basement door, so I don’t mind as much as long as they’re not getting in the house anymore. Mrs and kiddos get freaked out seeing rodents running across the kitchen floor. I’ve got enough shit to worry about.

The evil side of me thought about putting those sums of bitches in their mail slot, but I noticed they’ve got the ring doorbell camera setup, and I don’t have my Masked Superstar mask from HighSpots anymore so I can’t make that delivery.



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I would look into some sprays. Spray the parameter of your fence line and house. Mouse traps are a temporary solution to a permanent problem. You can have traps all over your yard, and kill 20 mice per day, but they'll still be back. Especially if you have a big backyard or live in a rural area. Also, buy a tabby kitten or outside tabby cat and don't feed it much. Tabbys are natural hunters. They'd rather kill their prey (mice, rats, and small birds) than be fed gourmet food.


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Love the idea of an outside cat.



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My dad gardens and had seeds in his garage. I think he uses mint leaves in the garage as a repellent, plus mint is natural and smells nice. Double check that before you go through the trouble, but I think it's mint.



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beejmi wrote: The ultrasonic gadgets don't work
Those things are pieces of shit. Best thing are cats. Traps don't  work for me. One day I put out 4 traps on one side of my garage.  3 or 4 days later they all disappeared. A month later cleaning my garage  I find all the traps on the other side along with tons of mice shit.



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The poison is very effective. The mummy mouse gets it in her milk and that gets rid of all her litter. Mice can have 10 litters a year with 5+ babies each time, so that can multiply fast. You do have the problem of the mice dying hidden inside your house. The stink is bad, but only lasts about three days (not months, but with multiple mice this could add up). [Side note, I used to work in an old building and the rotting dead mouse smell was somewhat common in the basement. A couple of years ago I recognised the same smell in our apartment block, but much stronger. Neighbour had died at home...]

A cat is a long term solution. You need to train a cat to be a good mouser. If you just get an adult cat, keep it outside, and keep it hungry, it won't stay around long. Cats are only loyal to food, and someone else will start feeding your cat. If you aren't feeding it it won't come back. Train up a kitten and you'll have him ready in 6 months. Downside, it will bring you "presents," so if the rest of the family won't appreciate mouse cadavers in the house, the cat solution may be a non starter. Having said that, any cat will keep away rodents just by being a cat. The mice can smell the cat so they will keep away. Again, this isn't an instant solution, since the cat needs time to establish its territory. An new adult house cat would be the fastest cat solution.

Maybe set up a wall of traps at the boundary between you and your neighbor? I guess they have neighbors on other sides, maybe form some sort of coallition?

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One facet of my job is pest control, including rodents.  We have a very effective control program here despite food and shelter conditions that make our location very attractive for mice. 
 
If I were you, I'd put a couple bait locations around the perimeter of the yard.  Mice don't like to travel very far from their home, 50 feet is a good rule of thumb.  They will migrate when population pressures force them to seek new sources of food and shelter.  If they're attracted to the compost and squirrel food, then place bait stations as close as you can to those locations.  Cut them off at the pass.  It sounds like you don't have any pets but the one caution to using a rodenticide is that deceased mice can be eaten by larger predators, thus creating second-hand poisonings.  Someone mentioned spraying, but that's going to have a very limited effective time, especially during weather events.  Better to leave bait out.  Mice take a long time to trust new environments so even bait will take some time to be effective.  And it may take multiple feedings for it to be lethal. 
 
Then, against your house, and inside, near any points of ingress, put your traps.  The old fashioned snap traps are fine, but the alligator style traps are just as effective and easier to set and reuse.  One other thing, someone said something about using gloves while baiting their traps.  This is unnecessary.  Mice are commensal animals that cohabitate with humans.  They're not put off by our scents. 
 
Of course the best thing to do is eliminate the attractants, and it sounds like that's not possible. 



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Appreciate all the responses on this, seriously.

Yeah, I had picked up a can of that anti-mouse spray and have sprayed it along the fence line (it does stink like hell), but I assume every time it rains it gets washed away.

KGB- I don’t have any traps near the fence, but I could set some more up.

I’m using the white plastic ones that you can get at Lowe’s. You mention alligator snaps, and actually I believe that’s what I have. The alligator teeth come down hard. I’m throwing a pair of gloves on just in case they have some kind of disease. I don’t know, just playing it safe.

I’ll throw some more traps down by the fence line. I assume when it rains I may need to “refresh” the peanut butter and hopefully the squirrels don’t fuck with them.

Ultimate - yeah, I heard bird seed is a huge attractor and actually had to tell these boomers a few years ago to get rid of their bird set up they placed outside their dining room window, on our property, so they could “watch the birds” while they ate. I’ll check the mint.

Kriss- I’ll put a perimeter of traps down.



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It’s anazing in this era of advanced technology things like ‘cats’ and ‘peanut butter’ are things that work best. With ‘glue traps’ still on the board for most people.

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Are the neighbors allowed to have a compost pile? Most places have some basic laws about keeping up property and not allowing garbage to accumulate. I realize there are ramifications for having bad relationships with the neighbors, but could you potentially ask the city to step in and make them clear it out, pointing out the pest issue?

It's not quite the same thing, but a number of years ago I had some neighbors a few doors down from a former residence who set up for a yard sale, had a huge downpour of rain come and drench everything, and then left the now ruined stuff they wanted to sell in their front yard for the next couple of weeks. I finally called the city to report them and within a week all that junk was cleared out. The key was they didn't know I was the guy who reported them. This situation doesn't sound like it would be as easy to get around that, if the compost pile can even be stopped.

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beejmi wrote: It’s anazing in this era of advanced technology things like ‘cats’ and ‘peanut butter’ are things that work best. With ‘glue traps’ still on the board for most people.
Not true.  The most effective way to get rid of mice is to cancel them on Twitter.  This requires considerable time as you need to get a few thousand of your friends to tweet that mice disproportionately affect minorities and women, but after a couple of weeks it will surely come to the attention of certain people at The Huffington Post and Vice.  Once that happens, the mice won't be able to show themselves ever again.  Problem solved.  



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