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 Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 11:27 pm
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I keep hearing about the Scientology relationship between the stars, since the death of Travolta's son.

I tried the cheap way to educate myself on Scientology using wikipedia.  I did not want to waste the time to do some deep research into all that crap.  Can anybody provide a summary of what the scientology religion is all about?  I was reading that it does deal with money.  Are followers/members supposed to donate the money to invest it or what?  What is the appeal other than other famous people are followers/members?

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Scientology markets itself as a new-agey way to self realization by targeting people with self esteem or developmental issues (Tom Cruise has severe dyslexia that caused him problems in school).  People have to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to graduate to the next level, hence the reason they target celebrities (also they have the most money and it gets them mainstream acceptance).

In reality, it was started on a bet by L. Ron Hubbard who was a writer of bad science fiction and also most likely an undiagnosed manic depressive. Scientology's obsessive hatred of psychology stems from Hubbard's paranoia that grew more bizarre as he got older.

They also have the world's top intimidation team, they even got the IRS to back down and allow them tax free status (which gave them credibility as a genuine religion) by basically blackmailing IRS agents that were investigating their shady dealing.

There's been cases of people dying both directly and indirectly as a result of Scientology so it's not the wacky but harmless celebrity cult it wants to be portrayed as.



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Watch Dana Carvey's last special for the best explanation of Scientology.:D



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sek69 wrote:
There's been cases of people dying both directly and indirectly as a result of Scientology so it's not the wacky but harmless celebrity cult it wants to be portrayed as.

I seriously think Travolta's sons death has something to do with Scientology in one form or another.



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I hear them making references to Scientologists refusing medicial treatment.Scientologists like Cruise get asked if they refuse medicine (implying Jett Travolta was not treated) but Cruise disputes this.

I think the people who refuse medical treatment using medicine developed in labs, are Christian Science followers?

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Scientology markets itself as a new-agey way to self realization by targeting people with self esteem or developmental issues (Tom Cruise has severe dyslexia that caused him problems in school).  People have to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to graduate to the next level, hence the reason they target celebrities (also they have the most money and it gets them mainstream acceptance).

tom cruise went off on brooke shields a couple years ago because she admitted that she had postpartum depression.  he even went on the today show and had a big agrument with matt lauer about the whole situation.  cruise is fucked-up in the head.



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Scientology may be one of the best-funded cults, but its tactics are by no means unique.



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Is there a supreme being?

I mean, is there any actual worship?

 

 

 



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Yeah, of L. Ron.



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It must be a tight-lipped and influential group, because I do not remember anybody coming out and saying that they went broke by being defrauded by the scientologist theology.  You usually get somebody who speaks out.  Where in the hell is all this money going?  I can understand that it could be going for the wealth of a few, but it seems odd that nothing is ever said or discovered about this group.  I mean actors and other famous types are glamour pigs, but they all aren't that stupid.   I just do not see the reward for all of this.  I understand it may be cult-like but even cults usually prey on those with low self-esteem.  I cannot see some of their members just falling for this following when there has been so many questions raised over the years.

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All religion is seriously fucking stupid, but I think Scientology tops the list.



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Vintage Wrestling wrote: All religion is seriously fucking stupid, but I think Scientology tops the list.

I generally agree with this except I am not even sure that Scientology is a religion.  Hubbard was a lunatic.   It figures that idiots from Hollywood would be Scientologies biggest proponents.

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