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 Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 04:45 pm
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Principal_Raditch wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: thunderbolt wrote:
Cabrera will likely win the AL MVP, but, having seen him since his callup, Trout is by a large margin the best player in MLB.

Congrats to the Orioles and A's for winning the wildcard spots in the AL.  The Angels have no one to blame but themselves.

But Stingmark said that the jury is still out on Trout. How can He be the best player in the Majors?:tongue:

Because Mike Trout is better than Alan Trammell. When Did Trammell hit 30 hr's? Never. When did he score 129 runs ? Never. Steal 48 bases? Never. Have a .564 Slugging? Never. Thus Mike Trout deserves to be MVP.

(rollseyes), Trout can only hope he has a career for 20+ yrs in the guys are definitely drinking the koolaid. Let's see him do it consistantly for several years.


As for MVP, is Trout leading in RBI's/HR's, and so forth? then, NO, he doesn't deserve MVP. Plus, Trout's team didn't make the playoffs, thats hurts his mvp stock IMO. Had they made the playoffs, I'd probably say he had a very good chance to win it.


Leyland thinks Cabrera should be not only the first TC winner in 45 yrs, but also a lock for MVP.


Counting the four hits he had Monday, Cabrera had hits in six consecutive at-bats and is hitting .331. (Robin Buckson/Detroit News)

Kansas City, Mo. -- While the Tigers wait around to find out who they'll face in the playoffs, they're getting a nice historic diversion. They get to watch a teammate rip apart baseball's record book.

Miguel Cabrera isn't quite unstoppable, but he's about as close as anyone ever gets. He had two more hits and two more RBIs Tuesday night, and the Triple Crown is in his grasp. Not that he needed further confirmation of his greatness, but surely this would do it. Heck, it might even end that relentlessly tiring MVP debate.

Cabrera left after the fifth inning of a 4-2 loss to the Royals, and if he wants to rest today to secure the Triple Crown, there should be no argument. None. Manager Jim Leyland said he'd make the decision whether to play Cabrera, but he also has a bit of a luxury — all of the hitting contenders play before the Tigers game tonight.

If Cabrera has it wrapped up, he's absolutely entitled to watch the finale from the dugout.

"He's got 600-some at-bats, what else you want the kid to do?" Leyland said. "Enough's enough. I think he's proven himself no matter what I do. I'm gonna be in a no-win position in the eyes of some, but if he wants to play, he'll play."

This hasn't been seen in baseball in 45 years, which might explain why it's hard for some to fathom what we're witnessing. But truthfully, you could see it coming for a while, as Cabrera locked in during the tension of the division race. One day after the Tigers clinched, all the game's meaning was packed into three at-bats.

Cabrera blooped a single in the first inning, then lined a two-run single in the third, his sixth consecutive hit over two games. After he lofted a foul fly to right, he left with an AL-leading .331 batting average. His RBI total of 139 is way ahead. His 44 home runs were one ahead of Josh Hamilton.

Cabrera deferred to Leyland, but obviously, the decision will be his. He said he wants to play, but let's see what happens with Hamilton and Mike Trout beforehand.

"I played 160 games, so I think one more won't affect me," Cabrera said. "Whatever decision (Leyland) makes, I'm good with it."

I bet Cabrera can't wait to get this finished, as the clamor grows ever louder, sometimes too loud for him. If he could chase the Triple Crown in a sensory-free bubble, he would. But for teammates who still watch in amazement, this has become the best seat at baseball's history table.

Unsung achievement
Cabrera downplays the possible ramifications of the Triple Crown, but I wonder if people really grasp what he's doing. He's going for his second straight AL batting title, which would be enough for any star player. Incredibly, it's only a slice of what Cabrera could accomplish.

He never wanted to turn this into an individual quest, but with the Tigers in the playoffs, it's fair to focus on the numbers. Cabrera answers the questions politely, but to belabor it draws more attention and heaps more pressure, and besides, what more is there to say?

His teammates have plenty to say, including the reigning AL MVP and Cy Young winner.

"I think he's been relatively under the radar for what he's doing," Tigers ace Justin Verlander said before the game. "I haven't seen that much attention on him, not like it should be. It kind of annoys me, but it probably doesn't annoy him. The entire baseball world should be here right now."

About 20 feet away, Cabrera sat at his locker, laughing with rookie Avisail Garcia, a fellow Venezuelan who looks and swings like Cabrera. Garcia is Miggy Me, and on this day, he's a great diversion for the big fella.

Teammates behind him
The debate rages whether Trout's all-around game is more impressive than Cabrera's all-world hitting. If Cabrera lands the Triple Crown, I don't see how he could be denied the MVP, but it's no lock. I swear, Tigers players want him to complete the feat even more than he does. Verlander has been wearing his "Keep the MVP in the D" T-shirts, but that issue is up to a vote. The Triple Crown is all Cabrera's to take, and he'd love to do it. He'd just rather be judged on the team's success.

In fact, he's almost embarrassed to be talking about himself.

"The numbers are right there, you can't change that," Cabrera said. "If I change my game, it'll change my whole game for the playoffs. I gotta stay focused. I'll let you focus on all that other stuff, and you tell me."

Cabrera unleashed a gigantic laugh, his preferred antidote to pressure. He's a commanding presence in a playful way, as boisterous as anyone on the Tigers.

It's obvious his teammates appreciate him and are rooting for him, and in some ways, Cabrera is almost too consistent, too humble and too deflecting. He's a 29-year-old superstar who has put up similar numbers for eight consecutive years.

"I don't know what else to say — if he's not the MVP, then there's no such thing as an MVP," Leyland said. "That's with all due respect to Mike Trout, who's been unbelievable. But when people look at the numbers, for some reason they don't really look at RBIs. To me, that's the most important statistic of all."

Cabrera also led his team to the playoffs with stunning clutch hitting. The Angels didn't reach the postseason, although they have a better record than the Tigers. But there's only one guy going for the Triple Crown, and in the Tigers' clubhouse, no further discussion is necessary.

But no one seems overly surprised the feat is so near. Cabrera already has won batting, home run and RBI titles in different seasons. He's putting it all together now, and everyone needs to recognize exactly what we're seeing.

From The Detroit News:

(Oh and Trammell will most likely get into the HOF, his votes have gone up every year)

Last edited on Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 04:47 pm by stingmark

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