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 Posted: Mon Sep 11th, 2017 06:51 pm
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Superstar wrote: martini wrote: I kind of got to thinking about the national promotions the other night and wrestlers who were always in the main event picture, but never were the "guy" the company hung its hat on.

The most glaring inclusion to me was none other than The Undertaker. Here's a guy who worked on top for the better part of two decades, but never was the guy the company hitched its horse to.

When he started out, the guy was Hulk Hogan. Later, it became Bret Hart. Then Diesel for a year. Then HBK before yielding to Stone Cold, The Rock and John Cena.

Yet, he was always there and working with those guys and in the main event picture.

Big Show also comes to mind as one of these types.

Anybody else you can think of?

WCW-wise, I'd say the company carriers were Flair, Sting, Flair again, Hogan, the nWo, Goldberg (briefly) and that's about it.

Again, the Giant comes to mind there.

For that matter, Andre the Giant was also there at the top of the card, but never the guy. Randy Savage may be another because even though he was champ for a year, he was always in Hogan's immense shadow and never really "the guy."

How about Big Dust?  He basically is in the Andre category - during his prime, he traveled everywhere, and while he was based in a lot of places, he wasn't "the guy" that carried a company.  Most of what you mention is "current product" stuff, such as post '84 the Wrestlemania era.  But then you mentioned Andre, which is why I went with the Dream.  But if you simply look at 1984 and newer as the time when territories started to disappear, the biggest guy that you didn't mention was Luger.  Lex was given the mantle when Flair got fired/quit.  But had this not have happened, Luger would have never been "THE guy".  After this era failed, and I was at a Meadowlands card with Luger on top that drew maybe 500 people on a night when all tickets were $7 or $11, he went to WWF and from that point on was never better than upper mid card.

Many people argue that Andre and Dusty didn't need the belt in order to sell tickets.  I would put Undertaker in that category as well.  After he went back to being the Deadman, he sold tickets just by being advertised.

I forgot that Luger was ever the guy in WCW, lol.

That wasn't a good time for the company. I just kind of lumped it as part of Sting's run as the guy.

I think you put Andre, Dusty and Taker in the "attraction" barrel. They were always going to sell tickets, but never really were the top guys in any national company, which was what I based this on.

Certainly, Dusty was a top guy in some of the territories, especially Florida, but he wasn't ever that guy in Crockett. He was the guy who faced and chased the guy.

Shaken, but not stirred.