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 Posted: Mon Mar 4th, 2019 10:07 pm
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Ultimark wrote: Kriss wrote: Ultimark wrote: Everyone's situation is different. If you are in a high income tax state and make a certain amount, then the limiting of that deduction will hurt. Also, there are other variables involved. However, for his people in red states, most of them have less tax liability than before. Now, many don't understand that is a different issue than just a refund. All because a refund is lower doesn't mean they have paid more taxes. That is his base though. Many simply cannot understand that. They live for that refund.

They knew this was going to be an issue. That is why Trump started to talk about a middle class tax cut in Sept before the election. The reality was some in the middle class did receive a cut with the last reform but some didn't.

The middle class tax cut was some bullshit he pulled out of his ass on the way to the helicopter. It was debunked literally immediately by the journalists who were there and was never mentioned again.
I agree.  I really don't understand why anyone would think he really cares.  He had a decades long history of screwing small businesses, in many cases leaving them no choice but to declare bankruptcy.  He didn't care for one simple reason - he cares about himself only.  The tax bill was a Ryan special.  Trump just wanted the win.  Many did benefit - some did not.  I do know that the deficit is out of control and the tax bill did nothing to make it better.  It actually made it worse.  
I am old enough to remember when R's gave 2 shits about the deficit.  Like in 2015.  Gosh, wonder what changed?

Republicans never gave a shit about the deficit. What changed is they got into power again and there are no Democrats around to blame it on. That’s what they do, complain about the other side screwing something up, then doing the same thing when they’re in power. Remember the anti-war left of the Bush years?  Me neither. It’s been a long time. 

This thread was great before AA ruined it.