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 Posted: Wed Jun 19th, 2019 06:56 pm
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Ultimark



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srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Trump is in no risk of getting beat at this point.
I would be shocked if Trump loses, and the fact that liberals are basically preparing a victory party already (with no viable candidate yet) just convinces me of that more.  He's going to win again, and liberals are going to be shocked again.  They're incapable of learning from their mistakes.


Correct.  They actually need “Trump” candidate from the left side.  Somebidy who will tell the Establishment dems that their days are over and also tell the over-zealous liberal side that they need a reality check.  
There are not that many left.  The woke crowd controls the party, at least on both coasts.  I don't see the D's with that type of candidate.  Still, it is too early and if the economy slows then he could lose.  The Dems sure do make it easier on him. 

I don't agree with this at all.  The woke crowd controls Twitter, they don't control the party.  If they controlled the party then Hillary wouldn't have won the nomination in 2016 and Biden wouldn't be the favorite now.  And the average Democrat voter are firmly part of the establishment and don't have much more respect for the woke candidates than they do for Republicans.  They're also much older than the people you find screeching on Twitter.

Of course, when complacent and arrogant, you get massive upsets like AOC beating Hillary's boy in NY, mostly because the establishment refused to even campaign against her or acknowledge her existance.  But Pelosi, Schumer, et al are fighting back and sabotaging those types of candidates now.
I guess we will disagree.  On the coasts, I really think the party has taken a sharp turn left.  The fact that a guy like Sanders was so competitive in the primaries says it all to me about their direction.  He isn't even a Dem.  He is a socialist.  As for Biden, it is very early and he is ahead on name recognition.  I think that will vanish over time.  I guess his one shot is for Obama to campaign strong for him in the D primaries.  This could help in VA, NC, SC and GA where he needs the minority vote to turnout big.  Somehow, I don't see Obama doing that.