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Both games are on Sunday.

Vikings at Saints

Jets at Colts

Saints and Colts favored. Both underdogs have better defenses. Which leads to believe one of the underdogs is getting in. Colts vs Brees or Favre the matchup I'd rather see the most. No offense Jets fans just I want my Super Bowl this year to be an offensive show.

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Jets-Vikes is what I want, so Colts-Saints it will probably be.

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The NFL would really like to have a Favre/Manning super bowl, and I suspect the game officials will be made aware of this fact.

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: The NFL would really like to have a Favre/Manning super bowl, and I suspect the game officials will be made aware of this fact.

All the officials cheating in the world can't stop favre from throwing a last-minute INT in the New Orleans Red Zone with the game on the line.

 

just sayin.

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I see the Vikings handling the Saints and the Colts holding off the Jets. If the Jets had an established QB and a real WR (not Braylon Edwards, who just sucks) they'd beat the Colts.

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HBF wrote: I see the Vikings handling the Saints and the Colts holding off the Jets. If the Jets had an established QB and a real WR (not Braylon Edwards, who just sucks) they'd beat the Colts.
Cotchery is a real receiver, but I get what you're saying here.

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HBF wrote: I see the Vikings handling the Saints and the Colts holding off the Jets. If the Jets had an established QB and a real WR (not Braylon Edwards, who just sucks) they'd beat the Colts.
Same here.

I like both NFC teams, but NO's defense is going to have a hell of a time with either the Vikings or the Colts.

Jet's....meh.



 

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Vikings beat the saints

Colts manhandle the Jets and show that they were doing it with smoke and mirrors.

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khawk wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: The NFL would really like to have a Favre/Manning super bowl, and I suspect the game officials will be made aware of this fact.

All the officials cheating in the world can't stop favre from throwing a last-minute INT in the New Orleans Red Zone with the game on the line.

just sayin.


This.

I wish Vegas would allow me to put money down on Favre blowing the game with everything on the line.  That goddamned fraud.  I wonder what that line would be?

On a side note, why is it that krazykid18 talks about what a failure Peyton Manning is because he's won only ONE Super Bowl throughout the course of his illustrious career, yet Favre gets a free pass? 

P. Manning is way > Favre, IMHO. 

For the record, I think the NFL is rooting for an Indy/NO SB, as are most NFL fans.

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I wish Vegas would allow me to put money down on Favre blowing the game with everything on the line.  That goddamned fraud.  I wonder what that line would be?


I'll take your action. LOL

I don't think he screws it up (at least not the NFC championship game and against theSaints defense)

Favre screws it up for them  ~ 8 to 5 (pays $8 for every 5 you put up)
Favre doesn't screw it up 5 to 7 (put up $7 for every $5 you wanna win)

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beejmi wrote:

I wish Vegas would allow me to put money down on Favre blowing the game with everything on the line.  That goddamned fraud.  I wonder what that line would be?


I'll take your action. LOL

I don't think he screws it up (at least not the NFC championship game and against theSaints defense)

Favre screws it up for them  ~ 8 to 5 (pays $8 for every 5 you put up)
Favre doesn't screw it up 5 to 7 (put up $7 for every $5 you wanna win)

You'd better not try to pay me in DVDs.

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Dont try to bet using "credit" either pal

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beejmi wrote: Dont try to bet using "credit" either pal

Whaa-aaat?!  I'm good for it!!

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I like the Colts and the Saints.

Jets get Manning for 60 minutes not 40. If Jets fall behind early by 2 tds or more...the game is over.

Vikings have a rather poor road record. I know its 4-4 but 3 of the wins were against the Rams, Browns,&Lions.(Plus Green Bay) Their losses were: Steelers/Bears/Panthers/Cards.

When they face a little tougher team on the road they don't do so well.

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khawk wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: The NFL would really like to have a Favre/Manning super bowl, and I suspect the game officials will be made aware of this fact.

All the officials cheating in the world can't stop favre from throwing a last-minute INT in the New Orleans Red Zone with the game on the line.

 

just sayin.
Please dude, just ask Dusty Wolfe.  Whole thing is rigged

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If one believes in "karma" there is an interesting twist to the Colts vs Jets

The Colts (in week 16) have the opportunity to eliminate the Jets, they lay down instead and now could regret doing what they did

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beejmi wrote: If one believes in "karma" there is an interesting twist to the Colts vs Jets

The Colts (in week 16) have the opportunity to eliminate the Jets, they lay down instead and now could regret doing what they did

I knew they'd come out pissed off and ready to prove everyone that exact scenario was not going to happen.

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Holy cow, what a bad performance of "The Star-Spangled Banner" by the American Idol kid.  He should take a full hit from Jared Allen for that tripe.

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Enough of this Katrina bullshit.  The Vikings are playing for every friend and family member who suffered pain and loss from the tragic I-35W bridge collapse. If you aren't pulling for the Vikings because of this, you are an insensitive bastard!!

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Jets had a great run and should be proud, but they were just outclassed in the second half. Sanchez just might be the real deal, and I may just adopt the Jets as m #2 team behind KC.

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Minnesota looked great on that first drive. NO will not be able to stop them and will need a boat load of points to win.

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...and Brees and Pierre Thomas pick apart the Minn Defence in response.

..and then Minn comes back down..

..and then NO comes back down.


Both D's look like shit so far.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: ...
Both D's look like shit so far.

+1

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The crowd noise really seems to be a factor.

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Wonder what the record is for most fumbles in a conference championship game?

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How the fuck is Bill Leavy still employed much less the referee of the NFC Championship Game? No wonder the Saints have so many penalties.

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I am shocked--SHOCKED--Favre hasn't fucked this up yet.  I really am.

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Wow. Favre throws a huge INT. Not surprised I guess.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
I am shocked--SHOCKED--Favre hasn't fucked this up yet.  I really am.

Said 1 minute too soon.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: I am shocked--SHOCKED--Favre hasn't fucked this up yet.  I really am.
Spoke thirty seconds too soon.  Things are right in the world once again.

What a fucking bum.

EDIT:  Beej, I wish I went through with that bet.

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Now the Saints win the OT coin toss to boot. OMG Favre, how could you!!!??! :tongue:

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: I am shocked--SHOCKED--Favre hasn't fucked this up yet.  I really am.
Spoke thirty seconds too soon.  Things are right in the world once again.

What a fucking bum.

EDIT:  Beej, I wish I went through with that bet.



The worst thing is, you just know that if the Saints go on to win this, there's no way Favre's going to retire with that having been the last pass of his career.  So we'd be stuck watching this asshat for another year at least.

Almost makes me want to root for the Vikes just so he'll finally be done.  Almost...

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so how much money did favre have on the game i mean come the fuck on,

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: I am shocked--SHOCKED--Favre hasn't fucked this up yet.  I really am.
Spoke thirty seconds too soon.  Things are right in the world once again.

What a fucking bum.

EDIT:  Beej, I wish I went through with that bet.


The worst thing is, you just know that if the Saints go on to win this, there's no way Favre's going to retire with that having been the last pass of his career.  So we're stuck watching this asshat for another year at least.

If I remember right, Favre's last pass as a Packer was an INT. What was his last pass as a Jet? Could he possibly close out three teams with INTs? Unprecedented I would think.

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brodiescomics wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: I am shocked--SHOCKED--Favre hasn't fucked this up yet.  I really am.
Spoke thirty seconds too soon.  Things are right in the world once again.

What a fucking bum.

EDIT:  Beej, I wish I went through with that bet.


The worst thing is, you just know that if the Saints go on to win this, there's no way Favre's going to retire with that having been the last pass of his career.  So we're stuck watching this asshat for another year at least.

If I remember right, Favre's last pass as a Packer was an INT. What was his last pass as a Jet? Could he possibly close out three teams with INTs? Unprecedented I would think.


I'm almost positive it was...it was, IIRC, a game against the Dolphins, which if the Jets won, the Patriots would've gone to the playoffs.  Favre forced it then, and pissed that game away as well.

This guy is the most fraudulent "legend" in the history of the sport.  I've never seen a guy held in such high regards that never wins when everything's on the line.  Just awful.

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Well these butterfinger Saints WRs are not really helping to try and close the casket on Favre

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brodiescomics wrote: No pressure.

He'll hit it.  He's got to.  Otherwise Tom Benson drops dead.

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Aints win!!!

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Game over. Saints win due to Favre complete choke job.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: brodiescomics wrote: No pressure.

He'll hit it.  He's got to.  Otherwise Tom Benson drops dead.

Got it.  Nice.  Congrats, Saints.  Now go kick the shit out of Indy.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: brodiescomics wrote: No pressure.

He'll hit it.  He's got to.  Otherwise Tom Benson drops dead.

Hartley is from Texas. Fuckin' nailed it.

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Whooo Hoo HOO that a tough loss there for Favre and The Vikings organization.


Makes me feel a bit better after the Jets loss today that another team blew it
BIG TIME!!!!!!

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: brodiescomics wrote: No pressure.

He'll hit it.  He's got to.  Otherwise Tom Benson drops dead.

Got it.  Nice.  Congrats, Saints.  Now go kick the shit out of Indy.


I agree KICK INDY'S ASS!!!!

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Brett Favre media merry-go-round to draw attention to himself about him retiring starts in... 3... 2...

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Let's hope New Orleans doesn't get destroyed again tonight or after they win the Super Bowl!

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Hammer to Fall wrote: Brett Favre media merry-go-round to draw attention to himself about him retiring starts in... 3... 2...
Can't see him getting much sympathy this time around after single-handily destroying his team's Super Bowl berth. That was a BAD INT Choke Job Right There!!

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What's the over/under on how many saccharine interviews we see with Archie Manning about his old team vs. his son's team?

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Hammer to Fall wrote: Brett Favre media merry-go-round to draw attention to himself about him retiring starts in... 3... 2...
I'm waiting, also, and it will occur before midnight on the East Cost.  It HAS to!  The world would not just be right, if it didn't.

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WHO DAT!!!!

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I wonder, how many of these guys who were in the playoffs and made the pro bowl will actually show up and play next weekend?

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Favre refused to do interviews....the drama queen probably is waiting to garner all the spotlights and cameras.

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I gotta pull for the Aints to knock out Manning & Co.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: What's the over/under on how many saccharine interviews we see with Archie Manning about his old team vs. his son's team?
It took about 90 seconds into the postgame show before exactly that point came up.

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khawk wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: The NFL would really like to have a Favre/Manning super bowl, and I suspect the game officials will be made aware of this fact.

All the officials cheating in the world can't stop favre from throwing a last-minute INT in the New Orleans Red Zone with the game on the line.

 

just sayin.

Didn't even make it to the red Zone before throwing the game killing pick this time!

I guaranteed every one I know that Favre will throw a crucial late pick or two. It's a constant of his championship performances since the Denver Super Bowl.

WHO DAT!?!?!?

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BayouBoogie wrote: khawk wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: The NFL would really like to have a Favre/Manning super bowl, and I suspect the game officials will be made aware of this fact.

All the officials cheating in the world can't stop favre from throwing a last-minute INT in the New Orleans Red Zone with the game on the line.

 

just sayin.

Didn't even make it to the red Zone before throwing the game killing pick this time!

I guaranteed every one I know that Favre will throw a crucial late pick or two. It's a constant of his championship performances since the Denver Super Bowl.

WHO DAT!?!?!?

I was waiting for that interception all season long. Kinda glad it ended Favre's season.

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I know it's kewl to bash Favre, but that pick wasn't as bad as you and the announcers are pretending it was.

It's 3rd and 15 and no one gets open, so Favre's options are:

A. Throw it away which means the Vikings are looking at a 54 yard fiend goal with a minute and a half left. That's a pretty tough make in that environment under that kind of pressure.

Then the question is do they risk the blocked kick or the miss and give the Saints great field position with over a minute and a half and 2 Tos? There is an outside chance they play it safe and punt, and hope for OT. (I doubt it, but still...)

B. He can run it. If you listen to Aikman he could have run for "at least ten or 15 yards." I Tivoed the game and went back to see if he could and he couldn't have. There are 3 defenders in front of him covering the short receiver. There is a ten yard gap between them, but Favre is 5 yards behind the LOS. If he runs the ball on his sprained ankle he he gets 3 yards tops, and sets up a 51 yard field goal which Aikman referred to as a "chip shot."

Or

C. He can force a pass across the grain to the best receiver on the field for a chance at a first down. If they gain no more yards they set up at worst a 39 yard field goal. It's a pass he has successfully thrown hundreds of times. I know it's the cardinal sin of QBs, but Brett's made a living off of doing it.

So he played it aggressively and tried to win the game, and was unsuccessful.

Did it cost them the game? Only if you believe like Aikman did that a 50 plus yard FG in that environment is a chip shot. Maybe Longwell had that one in him. He's a hell of a kicker, and it was better to have the shot and miss than to turn the ball over. I'm not saying it wasn't, but the game wasn't in the bag.


Factor in that the pick didn't give the Saints the win in any way, and that Peterson and Berrian's red zone fumbles were way more costly that that interception. If they get field goals out of either of those possessions the game is over.

Just the facts...
Now you can all get back to bashing Brett.

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The Ultimate Sin wrote:
B. He can run it. If you listen to Aikman he could have run for "at least ten or 15 yards." I Tivoed the game and went back to see if he could and he couldn't have. There are 3 defenders in front of him covering the short receiver. There is a ten yard gap between them, but Favre is 5 yards behind the LOS. If he runs the ball on his sprained ankle he he gets 3 yards tops, and sets up a 51 yard field goal which Aikman referred to as a "chip shot."



Tho it wouldn't have been a "chip shot" Longwell was 2 for 2 from over 50 yards.

Farve did have a good shot to gain 3-6 yards if he would have scrambled giving Longwell a shot at winning the game.

But the way it turned out was better.:D

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There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.

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Principal_Raditch wrote:
There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.


You are correct, there were only 19 seconds, so Longwell would have had to hit a 55 yarder to win it. That's still pretty iffy, and the Vikes fumbles are what truly cost them the win, not the pick that might have led to a 55 yard FG that might have been good.

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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.


You are correct, there were only 19 seconds, so Longwell would have had to hit a 55 yarder to win it. That's still pretty iffy, and the Vikes fumbles are what truly cost them the win, not the pick that might have led to a 55 yard FG that might have been good.

Exactly! Fuck! 5 fumbles....thats what cost them the game...nothing other than that. You cough up the ball that many times, and not win? on you.

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stingmark wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.


You are correct, there were only 19 seconds, so Longwell would have had to hit a 55 yarder to win it. That's still pretty iffy, and the Vikes fumbles are what truly cost them the win, not the pick that might have led to a 55 yard FG that might have been good.

Exactly! Fuck! 5 fumbles....thats what cost them the game...nothing other than that. You cough up the ball that many times, and not win? on you.

Fumbles cost them the game, but they had a chance @ the end iffy as it was they had a chance and Favre blew it, point blank all other excuses Favre took their chance away from doing anything with that interception, you never know if he would have hit or not, but Favre took away their chance, point blank, i blame Favre, Adrian, WR, and also the OC or the coach for the horrible playcalling down the stretch once they got to the 35 yd line.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.

Exactly.

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Oh BTW....

I will preface this comment by saying that I like watching Brett Favre play. I have always enjoyed his passion for the game. I am one of the few on this board that likes Favre...

With that said...

How did that fucking taste Brett Favre? Glad you threw that meaningless TD against the Cowboys last week. You showed them.

Favre's on the ground! Favre's on the ground! With his helmet turned sideways. Favre's on the ground!

HAHAHAHAHAH

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brodiescomics wrote: Oh BTW....

I will preface this comment by saying that I like watching Brett Favre play. I have always enjoyed his passion for the game. I am one of the few on this board that likes Favre...

With that said...

How did that fucking taste Brett Favre? Glad you threw that meaningless TD against the Cowboys last week. You showed them.

Favre's on the ground! Favre's on the ground! With his helmet turned sideways. Favre's on the ground!

HAHAHAHAHAH


 

 

It was the Cowboys duty to keep Favre from throwing that TD pass, just as it was Favre's duty to make sure his team had a chance to kick a field goal in the last 20 seconds of regulation.  They both failed.

 

BTW, there is another line to the "Favre on the ground" rap.

"With da turf in his mouff and his helmet turned sideways"!

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carpetbeggar wrote: Hammer to Fall wrote: Brett Favre media merry-go-round to draw attention to himself about him retiring starts in... 3... 2...
Can't see him getting much sympathy this time around after single-handily destroying his team's Super Bowl berth. That was a BAD INT Choke Job Right There!!

His team would have never reached that far in the playoffs without him, nor would have been in that situation if Adrian Peterson and the rest of the team didn't fumble the ball so much. I don't see how you can blame the loss on Favre when he was the team's best player on the field yesterday.

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Love how Favre gets all of the hate for that and not what a terrible call the roll out was in the first place.


You've got a 40 year old quarterback with a history of throwing the ball into traffic in desperation time. He's already got no mobility but on top of that he's got an injured ankle and his entire foot is purple from it. He has been hit on every dropback the second half and looks a little gunshy.



So you're going to call a rollout - and not just are you going to call a rollout, but you're going to call a rollout and still have a deep receiver down the other side of the field as an option? Seriously. WTF kind of a playcall is that? You know that even if you get Favre on the edge, he's not going to run it, because 1) he's never been the type of QB who does that and 2) he can't fucking run with his mangled ankle anyways.

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DaNkinator wrote: Love how Favre gets all of the hate for that and not what a terrible call the roll out was in the first place.


You've got a 40 year old quarterback with a history of throwing the ball into traffic in desperation time. He's already got no mobility but on top of that he's got an injured ankle and his entire foot is purple from it. He has been hit on every dropback the second half and looks a little gunshy.



So you're going to call a rollout - and not just are you going to call a rollout, but you're going to call a rollout and still have a deep receiver down the other side of the field as an option? Seriously. WTF kind of a playcall is that? You know that even if you get Favre on the edge, he's not going to run it, because 1) he's never been the type of QB who does that and 2) he can't fucking run with his mangled ankle anyways.


Favre probably convinced the offensive coordinator that he could run that play, more or less calling it himself.

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stingmark wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.


You are correct, there were only 19 seconds, so Longwell would have had to hit a 55 yarder to win it. That's still pretty iffy, and the Vikes fumbles are what truly cost them the win, not the pick that might have led to a 55 yard FG that might have been good.

Exactly! Fuck! 5 fumbles....thats what cost them the game...nothing other than that. You cough up the ball that many times, and not win? on you.

This. The final should've been something like 45-28 Vikings.

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BayouBoogie wrote: brodiescomics wrote: Oh BTW....

I will preface this comment by saying that I like watching Brett Favre play. I have always enjoyed his passion for the game. I am one of the few on this board that likes Favre...

With that said...

How did that fucking taste Brett Favre? Glad you threw that meaningless TD against the Cowboys last week. You showed them.

Favre's on the ground! Favre's on the ground! With his helmet turned sideways. Favre's on the ground!

HAHAHAHAHAH


 

 

It was the Cowboys duty to keep Favre from throwing that TD pass, just as it was Favre's duty to make sure his team had a chance to kick a field goal in the last 20 seconds of regulation.  They both failed.


 

BTW, there is another line to the "Favre on the ground" rap.

"With da turf in his mouff and his helmet turned sideways"!

Great stuff right there

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khawk wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Love how Favre gets all of the hate for that and not what a terrible call the roll out was in the first place.


You've got a 40 year old quarterback with a history of throwing the ball into traffic in desperation time. He's already got no mobility but on top of that he's got an injured ankle and his entire foot is purple from it. He has been hit on every dropback the second half and looks a little gunshy.



So you're going to call a rollout - and not just are you going to call a rollout, but you're going to call a rollout and still have a deep receiver down the other side of the field as an option? Seriously. WTF kind of a playcall is that? You know that even if you get Favre on the edge, he's not going to run it, because 1) he's never been the type of QB who does that and 2) he can't fucking run with his mangled ankle anyways.


Favre probably convinced the offensive coordinator that he could run that play, more or less calling it himself.


It's definitely a questionable play for that situation, but Favre runs what he wants to run. Favre defenders have used that "the OC called it" excuse for years, but Bret makes those calls.  A good friend of mine was his team mate and friend for a number of years. He loves Bret but says Bret doesn't run any play he doesn't want to run. He'll run the called play if he likes it and change it if he doesn't.

Besides, even Favre admitted that running to pick up a few yards and set up a field goal would have been a smarter choice. He wouldn't have gotten much, but he could have just slid down and preserved the field goal try.  And there was a back he could have dumped it to as well and the play was moving toward the sideline so getting rid of it safely would have been very easy.  Throwing across his body into the middle of the field  in that situation is ludicrous no matter how you slice it.  He did what he has always done in those situations. Sacrificed the good of the team for the thrill of trying to make a miracle play.

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brodiescomics wrote:
Oh BTW....

I will preface this comment by saying that I like watching Brett Favre play. I have always enjoyed his passion for the game. I am one of the few on this board that likes Favre...

With that said...

How did that fucking taste Brett Favre? Glad you threw that meaningless TD against the Cowboys last week. You showed them.

Favre's on the ground! Favre's on the ground! With his helmet turned sideways. Favre's on the ground!

HAHAHAHAHAH


+1

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Kid_Naitch wrote:
stingmark wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.


You are correct, there were only 19 seconds, so Longwell would have had to hit a 55 yarder to win it. That's still pretty iffy, and the Vikes fumbles are what truly cost them the win, not the pick that might have led to a 55 yard FG that might have been good.

Exactly! Fuck! 5 fumbles....thats what cost them the game...nothing other than that. You cough up the ball that many times, and not win? on you.

This. The final should've been something like 45-28 Vikings.


45-21 the Harvin fumble set up the Saints other touchdown.

The coaching staff needs some heat here too. How do you get 12 men in the huddle out of a time out?

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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote:
stingmark wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
There wasn't 1.5 minutes left, there was 19 seconds. Even if Favre had tossed it to the sidelines, they go for the FG, miss, and give NO the ball with @ 15 seconds left at their own 37 with NO having no more timeouts. NO would have to toss a good 25 yard sideline pass in one play, get out of bounds just to kick a 54 yarder themselves. Highly unlikely.

He fucked up. He tossed it in the middle of the field with 19 seconds left to not give his team the chance to win.


You are correct, there were only 19 seconds, so Longwell would have had to hit a 55 yarder to win it. That's still pretty iffy, and the Vikes fumbles are what truly cost them the win, not the pick that might have led to a 55 yard FG that might have been good.

Exactly! Fuck! 5 fumbles....thats what cost them the game...nothing other than that. You cough up the ball that many times, and not win? on you.

This. The final should've been something like 45-28 Vikings.


45-21 the Harvin fumble set up the Saints other touchdown.

The coaching staff needs some heat here too. How do you get 12 men in the huddle out of a time out?

It's called here in Philly the Andy Reid syndrome. Choking down the strech during a big game. Remember, Childress did learn from the best.;)

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silentkiller wrote: carpetbeggar wrote: Hammer to Fall wrote: Brett Favre media merry-go-round to draw attention to himself about him retiring starts in... 3... 2...
Can't see him getting much sympathy this time around after single-handily destroying his team's Super Bowl berth. That was a BAD INT Choke Job Right There!!

His team would have never reached that far in the playoffs without him, nor would have been in that situation if Adrian Peterson and the rest of the team didn't fumble the ball so much. I don't see how you can blame the loss on Favre when he was the team's best player on the field yesterday.

I agree. Favre was definitely the best player the Vikings had on offense on Sunday.

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The Vikings choke again. :D

What is their record in the Super Bowl? 0-4 or something like that.

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clawmaster wrote: The Vikings choke again. :D

What is their record in the Super Bowl? 0-4 or something like that.

One of these days, the Vikings will square off against the Bills in the Super Bowl, and then the gloves are OFF.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: One of these days, the Vikings will square off against the Bills in the Super Bowl, and then the gloves are OFF.
Too bad nobody on this board will be alive to witness it.

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clawmaster wrote:
The Vikings choke again. :D

What is their record in the Super Bowl? 0-4 or something like that.


Yep.
Lost to KC in SB IV
Miami in VIII
Pittsburgh in IX
Oakland in XI



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