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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 02:49 am

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beejmi wrote:
More if somebody's QB goes down in training camp.

And maybe even more than that if Favre retires, but they couldn't have a situation like this hanging over the team until camp. Plus the Eagles risked getting nothing AND having a controversy if they waited too long.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 03:33 am

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sek69 wrote: I don't understand the desire to run Donovan out of town, do Eagles fans really thing Kevin fucking Kolb is going to lead them to the promised land?

Been singing that tune since the beginning of the thread.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 04:51 am

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pjstef wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: HBF wrote: Major coupe for Washington. Stupid move the Eagles, IMO. McNabb is the best player in franchise history not named Reggie White, Tommy McDonald or Steve Van Buren. The Eagles just made the Redskins relevant and themselves irrelevant in one swoop.

Fuck. Now I have to worry about the fucking Redskins when they play the G-Men!
I can't believe They only got a 2nd & a 3rd or 4th in next year's draft. They should've gotten more. This gives Them like 11 or 12 picks this year, with 5 in the top 84.
The way ESPN was reporting it, the Eagles did not get top dollar for him partially because they were accomodating McNabb, who asked to be traded to Wash. The story was reported that the 'Skins did not think they had much of a chance to land McNabb (they could not offer more than a #2 pick), but then their chances improved when he asked to go there. In the process, the Eagles were not able to ask as much as they could have from the Raiders.
The fat man Himself said that the best deal was Washington. Sometimes with the Eagles, You don't know who to believe.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 04:52 am

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beejmi wrote: And yes timed to steal the headlines away from the Phillies. I hate this move.
They should've been able to get more for Him. Bottom line.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 04:53 am

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C.C. Milani wrote: I officially don't get the Eagles fans here.

--They wanted McNabb out.

--Philly said they wanted a top-42 pick, so they knew what to expect.

--They got that pick AND another middle round pick.

--They don't like the trade.

Considering that McNabb is only signed for one more year AND the Eagles wanted to go with Kolb, I don't see what the problem is.
That's the way We like it. :tongue:

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sek69 wrote: I don't understand the desire to run Donovan out of town, do Eagles fans really thing Kevin fucking Kolb is going to lead them to the promised land?

As I have said already, They have gone as far as They will with Donny.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 04:58 am

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beejmi wrote: C.C. Milani wrote: beejmi wrote:
I was never sold a top 42 pick was "enough" anyway. Too much ongoing drama would have got better value by playing the waiting game.

Neither of us can say for sure, but I don't think waiting would have worked for Philly.

And how much can they ask for a guy that they:

A: Want to get rid of.
B: Can leave after one year?
More if somebody's QB goes down in training camp.
The only problem with that is, this year's draft is considered to be the best in the last 15-20 years. They want a high pick for this year, so They can trade up and draft Eric Berry. They have alot of holes to fill and They know that They weren't going to go any farther then They did last year.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 05:00 am

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C.C. Milani wrote: beejmi wrote:
More if somebody's QB goes down in training camp.

And maybe even more than that if Favre retires, but they couldn't have a situation like this hanging over the team until camp. Plus the Eagles risked getting nothing AND having a controversy if they waited too long.
Favre is going no where. Everybody in the league knows it. Reid & Childress are best friends, and Childress probably told Him that Favre was coming back.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 05:02 am

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clawmaster wrote: sek69 wrote: I don't understand the desire to run Donovan out of town, do Eagles fans really thing Kevin fucking Kolb is going to lead them to the promised land?

Been singing that tune since the beginning of the thread.

No one knows if Kolb's the answer, but there is only one way to find out. I love McNabb, but as I have said about 50 other times in this thread, it was time for Him to move on...

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: stingmark wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: stingmark wrote: C.C. Milani wrote: I hate to tell you this Bud, but 11-5 is a lot more fun than 6-10. Giving up McNabb for a 2nd isn't going to help your d-line immediately, if at all.

In this case sports mirrors real life, where the worst decisions are born out of frustration.

Very good point.

I'll also say....they've needed a RELIABLE rb and wr's for years now....and yet, no matter what happens, it's always McNabb's fault somehow? I found that fascinating. Westbrook is garbage, and has been for some time. Which is why, so many teams have passed on him, and he's still a FA(I believe). Plus, I cant name one of their WR's, can you?

No running game. no wr's,no defense....yep, it's McNabbs fault.

Do You even watch Football? Westbrook CARRIED that team for several years, that's why He's " garbage" now.He was the main threat on that team not McNabb. He got so beat up from all of the punishment that He's taken over the years, He became injury prone. Sometimes I wonder if You are KK18 the Second.
He has? through all of his concussions? he himself has carried the entire team to 5 NFC titles, and a SB? He's done so much for them, they've released him, and another team has yet to pick him up.
You would pick up a 30+ Running Back with Concussion problems the First day He was released due to Them? I know that You aren't that stupid. If You asked ANY Defensive Coordinator during the time Westbrook was an Eagle, until last year, He was the most feared Offensive weapon that They have. This alone proves that You don't watch Football because if You did, You would hear all of the Announcers say this during every broadcast. Westbrook wasn't a factor during the First NFC Championship season, due to Him being basically a Rookie.
I dont watch Philly football, correct. I doubt he was the biggest threat on the team for so many Years? if he was, good for them. Since you've brought it up...what are his stats during their tremendous run there? But, they've shown "their biggest threat" the door, and now, no team wants him. I do watch football, alot.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 05:42 am

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: stingmark wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote:
I know that the Lions have won Championships , but the statement was the last 30 Years. I did forget about the Lions 91 NFC Championship appearance. My apologies.

No worries. I dont forget(trust me)...one of the greatest years of my life.

Like I said earlier: dont bitch when McNabb's gone, and your davior Kolb can't even get you to the Playoffs, or nowhere near as far(or farther) than McNabb.

* Sigh * I'm NOT a big fan of Kolb, and I'm NOT convinced that He's the/or a answer. I've never said that I was a fan of Kolb's. The Eagles have gotten as far as They will with McNabb, and it's time to get Younger, and to move foward and re-build.

My biggest beef w/Eagles fans is: they blame McNabb for far too much. Just sayin: dont come back here and bitch, when McNabb beats the Eagles 1-2 times next year. They dont know how good they had it with that guy. As I said...had he played for Detroit...that guy would be able to write his own ticket out of town, they'd probably name streets after him, and so forth. He'd be worshipped in Detroit, just like Stafford WILL be.

The rock group Cinderella said it best with this song: "Dont know what you got...till it's gone".

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: HBF wrote: Major coupe for Washington. Stupid move the Eagles, IMO. McNabb is the best player in franchise history not named Reggie White, Tommy McDonald or Steve Van Buren. The Eagles just made the Redskins relevant and themselves irrelevant in one swoop.

Fuck. Now I have to worry about the fucking Redskins when they play the G-Men!
I can't believe They only got a 2nd & a 3rd or 4th in next year's draft. They should've gotten more. This gives Them like 11 or 12 picks this year, with 5 in the top 84.

No bitching! Zero!!

Philly fans "who demand a winner every year" have no reason to whine now...they're man McNabb is not here anymore.....can't put any of it on him now.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 08:09 am

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I'm not saying it wasn't time for Donovan to go, but if you know you're going to give your franchise QB his walking papers you would want more than an unproven commodity and a dog murderer to fall back on.

Just sayin'.

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I don't think Kolb will hold them back from winning (he has a ton of "weapons") but the overall youth of the team will probably keep them from going too far. Good teams have a mix of youth and veterans and Philly is all youth/draft picks.

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Posted: Mon Apr 5th, 2010 01:33 pm

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The Redskins o-line is atrocious. McNabb wasn't the best at staying healthy as it was. I think he'll struggle in Washington.

It's kind of funny how the Pats got #34 for Cassel and the Eagles got #37 plus what should be a third for McNabb. I'd take the McNabb deal out of the two, it's just funny how close the compensation is.

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