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The fireworks here will start in just a few days with the NFL season ending. Here are the selections. Not having John Fox is unforgivable - just not paying attention.

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1.  John Fox - Carolina Panthers- 10 pts

2.   Marvin Lewis -Cin Bengals - 9 pts

 3.  Rich Rodriguez - Michigan -8 pts

4.  Eric Mangini- Browns - 7 pts

5.  John Kuester - Detroit Pistons - 6ts

6.  Gary Kubiak - Houston Texans - 5 pts

7.  Paul Wulff - Washington State Unv - 4 pts

8.  John Tortorella- NY Rangers 3-pts

9.  Tony Sporano - Miami Dolphins

10.  Jim O'Brien - Indiana Pacers - 1 pt




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10 pts- pts- Sal Alosi (trippin' Jets strength coach)

9 pts- John Fox (Carolina Panthers)

8 pts- Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati Bengals)

7 pts- Jeff Fisher (Tennessee Titans)

6 pts - Tom Coughlin (Giants)

5 pts- Darrell Bevell (MN Vikings off. coordinator)

4 pts- Ken Whisenhunt (Arizona Cardinals)

3 pts- Eric Mangini (Cleveland Browns)

2 pts- Jack Del Rio (Jax Jaguars)

1 pt- Jerry Angelo (Chi Bears)



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10) Marvin Lewis

9) Kubiak

8) Eric Mangini

7) Jim Tressel(we could only hope)

6) Dick Rod

5) John Kuester(shitty Pistons Coach)

4) Norv Turner

3) Ken Whisenhunt

2) Mets Mgr

1) Bruce Pearl



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10 pts John Fox Carolina Panthers

9 pts Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals

8  pts Jeff Fisher Tennessee Titans

7 pts Bruce Boudreau Washington Caps

6 pts Cory Clouston Ottawa Senators

5 pts  Gary Kubiak, Houston Texans

4 pts Todd Richards, Minnesota Wild

3 pts John Kuester Detroit Pistons

2 pts Jack Capuano New York Islanders

1 pt Brent Sutter, Calgary Flames



Clawmaster


10 point pick John Fox Carolina Panthers
9 point pick Eric Mangini Cleveland Browns
8 point pick Jeff Fisher Tennessee Titans
7 point pick Ron Wilson Toronto Maple Leafs
6 point pick Ken Whisenhunt Arizona Cardinals
5 point pick Gary Cubiak Houston Texans
4 point pick Rich Rod. Michigan Wolverines football
3 point pick Vinny Del Negro LA Clippers
2 point pick Paul Westphal Sacramento Kings
1 point pick Marvin Lewis Cincy Bengals


CanadianHorseman


10 points - Garth Snow ( GM - NY Islanders )
9 points - Ron Wilson ( Coach - Toronto Maple Leafs )
8 points - Jay Triano ( Coach - Toronto Raptors )
7 points - Chan Gailey ( Coach - Buffalo Bills )
6 points - Cory Clouston ( Coach - Ottawa Senators )
5 points - Clint Hurdle ( Manager - Pittsburgh Pirates )
4 points - John Fox ( Coach - Carolina Panthers )
3 points - Brent Sutter ( Coach - Calgary Flames )
2 points - Jack Capuano ( Coach - NY Islanders )
1 point - Ozzie Guillen ( Manager - Chicago White Sox )


HBF

10-John Fox
9-Gary Kubiak
8-Jeff Fisher
7-Marvin Lewis
6-Eric Mangini
5-Buddy Nix
4-Ed Wade
3-Tom Renney
2-Brent Sutter
1-Rich Rodriguez

Lobo316


10 point pick - Brent Sutter - Calgary Flames
  9 point pick - Ron Wilson - Leafs
  8 point pick - Lionel Hollins - Memph. Grizzlies
  7 point pick - Jay Triano - Toronto Craptors
  6 point pick - Paul Westphal - Sac. Kings
  5 point pick - Kurt  Rambis - Minn. Timberwolves
  4 point pick - Steve Tambellini - Edmonton Oilers
  3 point pick - Jim Schwartz - Det. Lions
  2 point pick - Jim Riggleman - Wash. Nats
  1 point pick - Bruce Fucking Boudreau - Wash.  Capitals


Dog Faced Gremlin

10 points Jim Tomsula SF 49ers
9 points   Gary Kubiak HOU Tex
8 points   Norv Turner SD Char
7 points  John Fox CAR Pan
6 points  John Kuester DET Pist
5 points   Kurt Rambis MIN Tw
4 points  Paul Westphal SAC King
3 points   Marvin Lewis CIN Ben
2 points  Eric Mangini  CLE Bro  
1 points  Tom Coughlin NYG

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  1 point pick - Bruce Fucking Boudreau - Wash.  Capitals

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You can tell who is from Canada by the amount of NHL picks on their list. :tongue:

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CanadianHorseman wrote: You can tell who is from Canada by the amount of NHL picks on their list. :tongue:
And the Craptors :)

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Lobo, why would you fire Coach Schwartz? he's won them more games this year, than we have in 2-3 seasons before? he's a good coach, give him a bit more time. He turned around our D in what, one season? The guy can coach. Plus, its Detroit, the Lions wont shit can him. Now, in 2-3 yrs, if we dont get better, then  yeah, maybe, but not yet.

 

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10-John Fox
9-Cory Clouston
8-jim O'Brien
7-Sal Alosi
6-Jay Triano
5-Marvin Lewis
4-Flip Saunders
3-Gary Kubiak
2-Ron Wilson
1-Jim Leyland

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lobo316 wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote: You can tell who is from Canada by the amount of NHL picks on their list. :tongue:
And the Craptors :)

But no CFL picks. ;)

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CanadianHorseman wrote: lobo316 wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote: You can tell who is from Canada by the amount of NHL picks on their list. :tongue:
And the Craptors :)

But no CFL picks. ;)


 

The CFL, ha ha. Reminds me of the time someone called the Fabulous Sports Babe
& asked her who the new quarterback might be for the Eskimos, or whatever.
she hung up on him, saying "honey, no one gives a rat's ass about the CFL".

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Surprised no one chose Tom Cable. OC Hue jackson's contract is up and he wants to be head coach. Firing Cable is something Al Davis would do to keep Jackson.

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Benlen wrote: Surprised no one chose Tom Cable. OC Hue jackson's contract is up and he wants to be head coach. Firing Cable is something Al Davis would do to keep Jackson.
Should have picked him because Al Davis is nuts. Cable did a really good job coaching the Raiders this year. But Davis has fallen in love with the OC and Cable could lose the power play. Al Davis was once way ahead of his time. Now he doesn't have a clue.

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clawmaster wrote: Al Davis was once way ahead of his time. Now he doesn't have a clue.

Just Win Baby !!!!!!!!!!

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Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.

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khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.


 

We need a ruling on this. Khawk has a point.

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khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.


I'll put up standings later.

Let me consider what to do with Fox because we have the unusual situation of knowing his fate while he was still coaching a game. My knee-jerk reaction is to "allow" the points for those that submitted before the 12-31-2010 midnight deadline and to disallow after that. I believe the news of him not being brought back broke on the 31st but the only parameter we had in place was a 12-31-2010 midnight deadline. And the picks were in private so as to discourage copying.

If I go in that direction I will bump Angelic Assassins other picks up by one point.

Fox was such a "gimme" I can't believe everyone didn't have him as a ten point pick even before the announcement.

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Mangini just got axed.  From  the USA Today site,

The Cleveland Browns fired head coach Eric Mangini on Monday after finishing its second straight 5-11 season under his tenure.

Team president Mike Holmgren met with Mangini and relieved him of his duties, one day after the Browns lost their fourth consecutive game to close the 2010 season.

"This decision was not easy for me, and it was one into which I put a great deal of thought," Holmgren said. "Although we have made improvements this season, my responsibility is to ensure that we establish a program that will allow this team to compete at a championship level. That will continue to be our goal in everything we do. I want to thank Eric for all of his contributions to the Cleveland Browns, and wish him and his family the best of luck in the future."

Hired in 2009 after being fired as head coach of the New York Jets, Mangini went 10-22 in two seasons. Holmgren, hired in late 2009, granted Mangini a second season after the Browns closed his first campaign with four straight wins.

But the Browns struggled to move forward in 2010, rotating Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and rookie Colt McCoy through the starting QB position on an offense that ranked 29th and scored just 16.9 points per game.

Mangini thanked the Browns and said he felt he left the team in better position than when he arrived.

"I have a deep respect for the players that I have coached the past two years and how they have made a profound difference in changing the culture - a tougher, smarter, more competitive, selfless team that never gave up," Mangini said. "Our goal was to build a team for long term success. The core characteristics we were dedicated to, I believe, will help achieve that goal, and have provided a strong identity for this football team and have helped to create a positive foundation upon which the organization can continue to build."

Holmgren, who won Super Bowl XXXI as the Packers' coach and coached in two other championship games, will launch a search for a new field boss. He has not yet said if he would consider taking on that job himself.

-- Sean Leahy

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khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.

I agree. been known for some time he wouldnt be back, as his contract was up @ the end of the season...kinda obvious to pick him.

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beejmi wrote: khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.


I'll put up standings later.

Let me consider what to do with Fox because we have the unusual situation of knowing his fate while he was still coaching a game. My knee-jerk reaction is to "allow" the points for those that submitted before the 12-31-2010 midnight deadline and to disallow after that. I believe the news of him not being brought back broke on the 31st but the only parameter we had in place was a 12-31-2010 midnight deadline. And the picks were in private so as to discourage copying.

If I go in that direction I will bump Angelic Assassins other picks up by one point.

Fox was such a "gimme" I can't believe everyone didn't have him as a ten point pick even before the announcement.

Most people knew Fox wouldnt be back, after last season, it was all over the media, that his contract was up this year< and he wouldnt be asked back.......

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beejmi wrote: khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.





Fox was such a "gimme" I can't believe everyone didn't have him as a ten point pick even before the announcement.
I didnt pick him because I knew last season, he wouldnt be back...kinda the concensus all year.

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stingmark wrote: beejmi wrote: khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.





Fox was such a "gimme" I can't believe everyone didn't have him as a ten point pick even before the announcement.
I didnt pick him because I knew last season, he wouldnt be back...kinda the concensus all year.


That sort of makes him more-than-obvious as a choice though, doesn't it? If you knew it so far in advance and didn't choose him, that's on you. Mangini getting fired is pretty much the same thing...more-than-obvious that he was gone at season's end, but I forgot to pick him. That's on me.

Anyway the picking of Fox by anyone that submitted it before January 1st isn't the issue in my mind, but AA submitted his/her picks after january 1st, and possibly after it had been "oficially" announced that Fox would not be back. that's the only reason I called BS on that specific selection by that specific poster being allowed.

Whatever Beej or Claw rule on this is all good.

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I have no problem with Fox not being my 10 point pick. Kind of figured he'd be going but really the last couple weeks I didn't get to pay much attention the the NO Fun League and I was going to put Mangini as my 10 point pick and then some little bird(now deceased) told me not to.

Had I been around when Fox was hired he would have been my 10 point pick back then, can't stand him so glad he's gone.

Move every else up and if it's cool I give you a 1 point replacement with Roy Hodgson the shitty ass manager of Liverpool my favorite European Football Club.

If not leave my 1 point pick blank and maybe someone named "blank" will get fired out of a cannon.

It's all good!

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I was on the fence with Mangini (leaning towards "they wont") but by halftime yesterday you could see it in his eyes.

I keep hearing Tom Cable. I'd be surprised I thought the players that have Al Davis' ear love him.

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It's Beej's call. It's his tourney.

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beejmi wrote:
I was on the fence with Mangini (leaning towards "they wont") but by halftime yesterday you could see it in his eyes.

I keep hearing Tom Cable. I'd be surprised I thought the players that have Al Davis' ear love him.


Al Davis has ass cancer that gravitated to his brain. The Raiders weren't downright awful this season, so Cable is probably done.

I have a knack for cheering for teams that blow but I've never been a jump on/off the bandwagon type of guy, especially when it's moving. A look at my favorite teams per sport tells you I won't be seeing a championship for awhile.

Football(NFL)-Oakland Raiders-nothing since Jim phucking Plunkett if I remember correctly.

CFL-Winnipeg Blue Bombers(greasy ass motherfuckers), worst football team I've ever seen except for when that motorcycle riding home Reinbold was the coach for 2 years. My hometown so I have to cheer for them.

NCAA-Ohio State Buckeyes-well one team that doesn't suck

Premier League-Liverpool(sucking big time this season)

Hockey(NHL)-Montreal(stop yer fucking laughing)17 years and counting

NCAA-NDFS- the Sioux are also mostly respectable

Baseball-Toronto Blue Jays & the no longer in existence Montreal Expos

NCAA-don't really follow College Baseball-it can go fuck itself

NBA-Toronto Raptors

NCAA-Georgetown since back in the Patrick Ewing days

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khawk wrote: stingmark wrote: beejmi wrote: khawk wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: 10-John Fox

No offense but I call bullshit picking Fox after it was announced that he won't be back.

I'm not saying entering the picks a bit late shouldn't be allowed but not Fox in this situation.





Fox was such a "gimme" I can't believe everyone didn't have him as a ten point pick even before the announcement.
I didnt pick him because I knew last season, he wouldnt be back...kinda the concensus all year.


That sort of makes him more-than-obvious as a choice though, doesn't it? If you knew it so far in advance and didn't choose him, that's on you. Mangini getting fired is pretty much the same thing...more-than-obvious that he was gone at season's end, but I forgot to pick him. That's on me.

Anyway the picking of Fox by anyone that submitted it before January 1st isn't the issue in my mind, but AA submitted his/her picks after january 1st, and possibly after it had been "oficially" announced that Fox would not be back. that's the only reason I called BS on that specific selection by that specific poster being allowed.

Whatever Beej or Claw rule on this is all good.

Yeah, but that would mean he wasnt fired? if we all knew he was gone from the beginning, and wasnt fired, as his contract wasn't renewed, then that would mean he's disqualified, as we're talking about fired coaches? he wasn't fired.....

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clawmaster wrote: It's Beej's call. It's his tourney.

I'm entered in the pool. If it was my call, it wouldn't be fair to the rest of you because Fox and Mangini are my 10 point pick and 9 point pick respectively.

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Standings

This has the Fox and Mangini firings in it

Not having your contract renewed means "get out of here" by the way

Didn't count Angelic Assassin's Fox pick because it came after the 12-31-2010 deadline and he had the opportunity to look at other's picks. Penalized 10 points out of 51 possible - 20% sounds about fair. He can still win but he better be good.

It will be interesting to see if the guys that went the hockey route (Lobo, Canadian Horseman) hit on a high percentage. Points there that not alot of guys tapped into.

Kudos to Claw for having Fox (10) and Mangini (9). Mangini wasn't a sure thing until yesterday IMO. if the Browns had won they would have saved his job IMO.

Claw 19
Grog 17
HBF 16
OneFanGang 13
Khawk 10
DogFace 9
Stingmark 8

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beejmi wrote: Not having your contract renewed means "get out of here" by the way



Here's something I probably should've thought about before posting...

Suppose a coordinator is named interim head coach, ala the Vikes' Leslie Frazier (I know Frazier's probably going to be retained as the Vikes head coach, but play along).  Suppose the Vikes decide to go out and hire a new yet coach, yet offer Frazier his old Defensive Coordinator position, which he accepts.  Does that count as a firing, since he's no longer the HC, but technically is still with the team?

Or how about this...what if the above scenario applies, but Frazier--hoping to get another head coaching position--resigns.  What then?

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beejmi wrote: Standings

This has the Fox and Mangini firings in it

Claw 19
Grog 17
HBF 16
OneFanGang 13
Khawk 10
DogFace 9
Stingmark 8

I had Fox for 4 points.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: beejmi wrote: Not having your contract renewed means "get out of here" by the way



Here's something I probably should've thought about before posting...

Suppose a coordinator is named interim head coach, ala the Vikes' Leslie Frazier (I know Frazier's probably going to be retained as the Vikes head coach, but play along).  Suppose the Vikes decide to go out and hire a new yet coach, yet offer Frazier his old Defensive Coordinator position, which he accepts.  Does that count as a firing, since he's no longer the HC, but technically is still with the team?

Or how about this...what if the above scenario applies, but Frazier--hoping to get another head coaching position--resigns.  What then?


 

I have a feeling there will be other questions that will arise when
someone is "fired" this year. If you have any questions or possible
scenarios that might need clarification, better ask them now so Beej can
set a ruling in place to ward off any disputes.

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Resigning isn't the same as getting fired

The other scenario won't ever happen (coach kept on board as a coordinator) - that isn't "fired" but it won't ever happen because when you bring in a new coach you don't want the old one there (rather uncomfortable for Mr New Head Coach who would prefer to put in his system for doing things)

Getting kicked upstairs is also not a "firing" (they're still with the team)

Hopefully no deaths but that also is not getting fired although Claw will give you dead pool points

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beejmi wrote: It will be interesting to see if the guys that went the hockey route (Lobo, Canadian Horseman) hit on a high percentage. Points there that not alot of guys tapped into.

I'll throw myself in this ring as well as I have 5 hockey coaches. Rumour today is that Cory Clouston's job in Ottawa is hanging by a thread. We'll see.

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beejmi wrote: Standings


Claw 19
Grog 17
HBF 16
OneFanGang 13
Khawk 10
DogFace 9
Stingmark 8

Actually I am only at 12 pts.  Fox (9) + Mangini (3).

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Rigged. I mean, fixed.

Claw 19
Grog 17
HBF 16
OneFanGang 12
Khawk 10
DogFace 9
Stingmark 8
CanadianHorseman 4

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beejmi wrote: CanadianHorseman 4

I knew this day would finally come. You finally spelled my name correctly. :D

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CanadianHorseman wrote: beejmi wrote: CanadianHorseman 4

I knew this day would finally come. You finally spelled my name correctly. :D

That's why I use the initials CH.

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come on Bengals fire Lewis now

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With the Rodriquez firing

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Claw 23
HBF 17
Stingmark 14
OneFanGang 12
Khawk 10
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CanadianHorseman 4

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Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.

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lobo316 wrote:
Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.


That means he's out. If he was 0-12 next year, Mike Brown would still keep him. Fuckin' waste of a pick on my part!

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lobo316 wrote: Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.

The nice thing about this pool is that he could start next year at 1-5 or 1-6 and get canned then. Extensions mean little in the coaching ranks.

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khawk wrote: lobo316 wrote: Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.

The nice thing about this pool is that he could start next year at 1-5 or 1-6 and get canned then. Extensions mean little in the coaching ranks.

You've raised an interesting point. If an NFL coach gets fired, signs with a new team & gets fired again (before Jan.01 2012), would you get double the points for this guy
since he was fired twice ?

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lobo316 wrote: khawk wrote: lobo316 wrote: Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.

The nice thing about this pool is that he could start next year at 1-5 or 1-6 and get canned then. Extensions mean little in the coaching ranks.

You've raised an interesting point. If an NFL coach gets fired, signs with a new team & gets fired again (before Jan.01 2012), would you get double the points for this guy
since he was fired twice ?

 

Not what I meant, but interesting thought nonetheless. :)

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khawk wrote:
lobo316 wrote: khawk wrote: lobo316 wrote: Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.

The nice thing about this pool is that he could start next year at 1-5 or 1-6 and get canned then. Extensions mean little in the coaching ranks.

You've raised an interesting point. If an NFL coach gets fired, signs with a new team & gets fired again (before Jan.01 2012), would you get double the points for this guy
since he was fired twice ?

 

Not what I meant, but interesting thought nonetheless. :)



I'm probably missing someone totally obvious but is
there a coach out there(any sport) who was fired by one team and then fired by his new team the next season?

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Ray Rhodes, fired in Philadelphia (after 1998 season), then by Green Bay (after 1999 season).

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lobo316 wrote: khawk wrote: lobo316 wrote: Count Grog wrote: come on Bengals fire Lewis now
You'll be disappointed to hear that he's signed an extention with the Bengals.

The nice thing about this pool is that he could start next year at 1-5 or 1-6 and get canned then. Extensions mean little in the coaching ranks.

You've raised an interesting point. If an NFL coach gets fired, signs with a new team & gets fired again (before Jan.01 2012), would you get double the points for this guy
since he was fired twice ?

We could call it the Billy Martin rule.

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Ray Rhodes, fired in Philadelphia (after 1998 season), then by Green Bay (after 1999 season).



Thanks OFG. I knew there had to be at least one.

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Tom Cable out in Oakland, in another of Al Davis' stupid moves: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5989707

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HBF wrote:
Tom Cable out in Oakland, in another of Al Davis' stupid moves: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5989707

Knew it. Team has a good season season and makes some important strides towards only being pitiful, so let's fire the coach.

FM

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HBF wrote: Tom Cable out in Oakland, in another of Al Davis' stupid moves: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5989707

No points scored

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beejmi wrote:
HBF wrote: Tom Cable out in Oakland, in another of Al Davis' stupid moves: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5989707

No points scored


Which is telling, as not one person here thought that he should be fired.

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Doesn't matter in Oakland, the coach of the raiders should be a default pick for everyone since there's no predicting what Crazy Al will do at any given moment.

Davis probably thinks he has a shot at Harbaugh, so he got rid of Cable to create an opening for him. Dumb motherfucker. (Harbaugh is even dumber if he goes there).

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khawk wrote: Doesn't matter in Oakland, the coach of the raiders should be a default pick for everyone since there's no predicting what Crazy Al will do at any given moment.

Davis probably thinks he has a shot at Harbaugh, so he got rid of Cable to create an opening for him. Dumb motherfucker. (Harbaugh is even dumber if he goes there).

This. Harbaugh IS NOT going to Oakland.

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HBF wrote: beejmi wrote:
HBF wrote: Tom Cable out in Oakland, in another of Al Davis' stupid moves: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5989707

No points scored


Which is telling, as not one person here thought that he should be fired.

There were rumors swirling around  here that Tom Cable was out after the Raiders were eliminated from the playoffs. It was no secret in Nor Cal. Al Davis likes Cable but he loves OC Hue Jackson. Davis also didn't like his boy with the purple drank being released . Accoeding to Davis he was grest.

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Harbaugh to SF. But even more importantly, I got my 10 point pick.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Harbaugh to SF. But even more importantly, I got my 10 point pick.

Did they let Tomsula go? Or is he still the defensive line coach for next year?

Good (interesting) pick by the way.

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beejmi wrote:
dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Harbaugh to SF. But even more importantly, I got my 10 point pick.

Did they let Tomsula go? Or is he still the defensive line coach for next year?

Good (interesting) pick by the way.


Not really sure, but that was precisely why I posted this:

beejmi wrote:
dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Harbaugh to SF. But even more importantly, I got my 10 point pick.

Did they let Tomsula go? Or is he still the defensive line coach for next year?

Good (interesting) pick by the way.


I don't really know...but that was precisely why I posted this question:

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beejmi wrote: Not having your contract renewed means "get out of here" by the way



Suppose a coordinator is named interim head coach, ala the Vikes' Leslie Frazier (I know Frazier's probably going to be retained as the Vikes head coach, but play along).  Suppose the Vikes decide to go out and hire a new yet coach, yet offer Frazier his old Defensive Coordinator position, which he accepts.  Does that count as a firing, since he's no longer the HC, but technically is still with the team?

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beejmi wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Harbaugh to SF. But even more importantly, I got my 10 point pick.

Did they let Tomsula go? Or is he still the defensive line coach for next year?

Good (interesting) pick by the way.

Harbaugh has yet to pick his staff but it seems Tomsula is staying.  Only 2 coaches in the NFL are undefeated and he is one of them.:D DC Manusky is interviewing for the Carolina job.

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We'll need a ruling on Jeff Fisher's Departure from Tennessee. Nobody seems sure whether he quit, was fired, or if was mutual from what I read in the Sports Forum.

I'm obviously biased in how I hope it goes... :)

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khawk wrote: We'll need a ruling on Jeff Fisher's Departure from Tennessee. Nobody seems sure whether he quit, was fired, or if was mutual from what I read in the Sports Forum.

I'm obviously biased in how I hope it goes... :)

The articles I've read on it are vague. Phrases like mutual parting of ways. It is Beej's call. Glad I don't have to rule on it.

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Maybe beej should wait to rule for a few days..more info may come out on how this went down in the next few days.

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khawk wrote: Maybe beej should wait to rule for a few days..more info may come out on how this went down in the next few days.
I agree.

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/27/titans-jeff-fisher/index.html?xid=siextra_012811

From SI. Doesn't things up in my eyes but it's a decent read nonetheless.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/chris-hope-calls-fisher-firing-devastating/

That site is calling it a firing.

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Jim O'Brien reportedly fired by the Indiana Pacers.

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clawmaster wrote: Jim O'Brien reportedly fired by the Indiana Pacers.


Grog and Angelic Assassin scoring with that. Updated standings below.

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Any decision on Fisher yet?

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No -- but will make one over the next few days. Thought more would come out. I just don't want to award points and then take them back a week later, etc

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Sounds good.

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beejmi wrote:
clawmaster wrote: Jim O'Brien reportedly fired by the Indiana Pacers.


Grog and Angelic Assassin scoring with that. Updated standings below.

Grog 26
Claw 23
HBF 17
Stingmark 14
OneFanGang 12
Khawk 10
DogFace 9
Angelic Assassin 8
CanadianHorseman 4


I'm on the board, I'm on the board, finally!

Someone throw me a parade, damnit!

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RE Fisher situation

I believe this to be a firing and am ruling it as such. It does not appear to be Fisher's decision and/or to leave on his own.

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Khawk 18
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DogFace 9
Angelic Assassin 8
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:)

 

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unless John Tortarella gets canned I am probably done for the duration as most of mine have been ruled safe until next season

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Nice thing is that their teams could shit the bed starting next season and still get canned within the boundary of 2011.

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Is anybopdy keeping tabs on the points for this thing ????  Anyway - Ottawa fired Cory Clouston today so khawk and myself picked up 6 points each.

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CanadianHorseman wrote: Is anybopdy keeping tabs on the points for this thing ????  Anyway - Ottawa fired Cory Clouston today so khawk and myself picked up 6 points each.
Was just coming to see if that was updated. I didn't realize that anyone else had him.

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khawk wrote:
CanadianHorseman wrote: Is anybopdy keeping tabs on the points for this thing ????  Anyway - Ottawa fired Cory Clouston today so khawk and myself picked up 6 points each.
Was just coming to see if that was updated. I didn't realize that anyone else had him.


I picked up a big 9 points for that, unless every one on my list moved up when my selection of John Fox was nixed. At the time I asked that that POS Liverpool manager be added to my list intead of Fox but nothing came of that, which is cool no problem.

Hey if I knock off, err I mean if one of the coaches on my list should happen to die, do I get bonus pints?

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Angelic Assassin wrote: khawk wrote:
CanadianHorseman wrote: Is anybopdy keeping tabs on the points for this thing ????  Anyway - Ottawa fired Cory Clouston today so khawk and myself picked up 6 points each.
Was just coming to see if that was updated. I didn't realize that anyone else had him.


I picked up a big 9 points for that, unless every one on my list moved up when my selection of John Fox was nixed. At the time I asked that that POS Liverpool manager be added to my list intead of Fox but nothing came of that, which is cool no problem.

Hey if I knock off, err I mean if one of the coaches on my list should happen to die, do I get bonus pints?

Opps - I just looked at the first post in the thread so that's how I missed your picks. As for the 2nd part of your post - no.

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Florida Panthers just canned head coach Peter DeBoer. Unless I missed their picks it looks like nobody picked up any points here.

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Claw 31
Grog 26
HBF 25
Khawk 24
OneFanGang 19
Angelic Assassin 17
Stingmark 15
CH 10
DogFace 9

Updated with Clouston and Bruce Pearl.

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Ron Wilson and Brent Sutter getting axed would really help some contestants. 

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Khawk has an island pick with Minnesota Wild Hockey Coach Todd Richards.

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NBA Coaches that could help contestants.

John Kuester
Vinny Del Negro
Paul Westphal
Kurt  Rambis

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clawmaster wrote: Ron Wilson and Brent Sutter getting axed would really help some contestants. 

Not to mention their teams. :tongue:

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clawmaster wrote: Khawk has an island pick with Minnesota Wild Hockey Coach Todd Richards.

Are you expecting him to get canned ????

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I fully expect to add 8 points when Toronto fires Triano soon after their last game this season on Wednesday.

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CanadianHorseman wrote: clawmaster wrote: Khawk has an island pick with Minnesota Wild Hockey Coach Todd Richards.

Are you expecting him to get canned ????

No. Just wanted to list all the NHL coaches and NBA coaches people picked.

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clawmaster wrote: Khawk has an island pick with Minnesota Wild Hockey Coach Todd Richards.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=361823

Got any lottery numbers you'd like to share ????

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Updated with Todd Richards

Claw 31
Khawk 28
Grog 26
HBF 25
OneFanGang 19
Angelic Assassin 17
Stingmark 15
CH 10
DogFace 9

I don't think this pool gives 1 point for an island pick. It's straight points right Beej?

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CanadianHorseman wrote: clawmaster wrote: Khawk has an island pick with Minnesota Wild Hockey Coach Todd Richards.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=361823

Got any lottery numbers you'd like to share ????


Not allowed to play the lottery since I work for Ontario Lottery and Gaming. :(

I figured Richards was at the crossroads this year--make the playoffs or gone. Minny collapsed down the stretch which pretty much sealed his fate.

Thank god those fuckers beat Dallas yesterday, though!

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After two seasons in Dallas without a playoff appearance, the Stars relieved head coach Marc Crawford of his duties on Tuesday.

 

for more......

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=361970

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clawmaster wrote: Updated with Todd Richards



I don't think this pool gives 1 point for an island pick. It's straight points right Beej?

Straight points Claw (thanks for updating this)

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If anyone had Rick Adelman, you got some points, he's out.

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stingmark wrote: If anyone had Rick Adelman, you got some points, he's out.
Doesn't look like anybody had him on their list.

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stingmark wrote: If anyone had Rick Adelman, you got some points, he's out.
Is Detroit gonna fire Kuester?

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khawk wrote: stingmark wrote: If anyone had Rick Adelman, you got some points, he's out.
Is Detroit gonna fire Kuester?

Lets hope so(Praying). Wouldn't mind seeing Laimbeer as our next coach. Now that the team is sold, they can finally trade Rip.

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The Golden Stae Warriores said today they will not be renewing head coach Keith Smart's contract.

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lakers claim they'll allow Brian Shaw to look @ other jobs for a HC position. Translation+ we dont want you as our coach here in L.A., as "jesus" probably doesnt want/like you.....

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stingmark wrote: lakers claim they'll allow Brian Shaw to look @ other jobs for a HC position. Translation+ we dont want you as our coach here in L.A., as "jesus" probably doesnt want/like you.....
Actually Kobe has been lobbying pretty hard for Shaw to get the Lakers HC job.

from yahoo!sports:


The Los Angeles Lakers' search for Phil Jackson's replacement has been a hot topic in Los Angeles since the Lakers imploded in their series against the Dallas Mavericks. The Lakers leader on the court, Kobe Bryant, is firmly in Brian Shaw's corner, as is former coach Phil Jackson.

Brian Shaw, meanwhile, is scheduled to visit Oakland and interview for the Golden State Warriors position. Shaw obviously knows his days are numbered in Los Angeles and is going to look for a promotion elsewhere. Fellow Lakers assistant, Chuck Person is also scheduled to interview for the same job. The writing is on the wall for the Lakers as we know them: The coaching staff will leave en masse and the team will be restructured from the top down.

This leaves the Lakers front office in a precarious position. How much clout does the Lakers front office give one of the greatest stars in the organization's history? Kobe Bryant will already be miffed the Lakers disregarded his preference to keep Brian Shaw and now he will have to adjust to a new coach in the waning years of his career.

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CanadianHorseman wrote: stingmark wrote: lakers claim they'll allow Brian Shaw to look @ other jobs for a HC position. Translation+ we dont want you as our coach here in L.A., as "jesus" probably doesnt want/like you.....
Actually Kobe has been lobbying pretty hard for Shaw to get the Lakers HC job.

from yahoo!sports:


The Los Angeles Lakers' search for Phil Jackson's replacement has been a hot topic in Los Angeles since the Lakers imploded in their series against the Dallas Mavericks. The Lakers leader on the court, Kobe Bryant, is firmly in Brian Shaw's corner, as is former coach Phil Jackson.

Brian Shaw, meanwhile, is scheduled to visit Oakland and interview for the Golden State Warriors position. Shaw obviously knows his days are numbered in Los Angeles and is going to look for a promotion elsewhere. Fellow Lakers assistant, Chuck Person is also scheduled to interview for the same job. The writing is on the wall for the Lakers as we know them: The coaching staff will leave en masse and the team will be restructured from the top down.

This leaves the Lakers front office in a precarious position. How much clout does the Lakers front office give one of the greatest stars in the organization's history? Kobe Bryant will already be miffed the Lakers disregarded his preference to keep Brian Shaw and now he will have to adjust to a new coach in the waning years of his career.


Not what theyve been saying here locally, Bob. if that were the case, they wouldnt let it be known that Shaw was free to look elsewhere for a job? at the very least, why let info like that leak?

We all know how 'Jesus" is......Shaw will be gone(if he is the pick), the second they dont win a title.....

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Beej will need to rule on Jim Tressel. The story I read said he wasn't fired but instead resigned.

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Raptors declined the option on their coach, Jay Triano. Triano will remain with the team as a special assistant.

No idea if anyone had him but if you did, you score.

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CanadianHorseman and lobo had him from a quick look at the master lists.

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It's about fucking time. He only got the job because he's Canadian.

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khawk wrote:
CanadianHorseman and lobo had him from a quick look at the master lists.

6 point pick for me-at least these losers are starting to get me some points

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Updated with the Triano firing. I am ruling Tressel to be a firing (called back on his vacation, resignation not his decision)

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Khawk 28
Grog 26
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Anybody have John Kuester ( formerly of the Detroit Pistons ) ????

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=367969

 

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CanadianHorseman wrote:
Anybody have John Kuester ( formerly of the Detroit Pistons ) ????

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=367969

 


He was an obvious pick.

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The Ultimate Sin wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:
Anybody have John Kuester ( formerly of the Detroit Pistons ) ????

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=367969

 


He was an obvious pick.


I guess he wasn't that obvious as only 4 guys picked up points from him getting canned:

Count Grog - points
dogfacegremlin34 - 6 points
stingmark - 5 points
khawk - 3 points

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Grog takes the lead.

Grog 32
Claw 31
Khawk 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
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Anyone have Bob Geren ?

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lobo316 wrote: Anyone have Bob Geren ?
It doesn't look like it.

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Resignation so it doesn't count.

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Florida Marlins manager Edwin Rodriguez resigns

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP)—Florida Marlins manager Edwin Rodriguez has resigned with his team on a nine-game losing streak.

Bench coach Brandon Hyde will manage the Marlins against the Tampa Bay Rays on Sunday, but the club will begin a search for an interim manager.

Rodriguez was in his first full season as the Marlins’ manager. He became interim manager June 23 of last year after Fredi Gonzalez was fired. He was given the job permanently five days later, becoming the first Puerto Rican-born manager in major league history. Florida went 46-46 under Rodriguez, who opened the season as the Marlins’ Triple-A manager in New Orleans.

The Marlins fell to 1-17 in June with Saturday’s 7-4 loss to the Rays.

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Kurt Rambis got the ax today

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Benlen wrote: Kurt Rambis got the ax today

 

I had him for 5 points.

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lobo316 wrote: Benlen wrote: Kurt Rambis got the ax today

 

I had him for 5 points.

So did I.

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Butch Davis Gets The Hook From UNC:

 

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP)—North Carolina has fired football coach Butch Davis.

The school issued a statement Wednesday night announcing Davis’ dismissal nine days before the start of preseason practice.


Chancellor Holden Thorp says the decision was not prompted by any changes in the ongoing NCAA investigation into possible improper benefits and academic misconduct in the football program.

Rather, Thorp says he “lost confidence in our ability to come through this without harming the way people think of this institution.”

The school scheduled a news conference Thursday morning to discuss the dismissal.



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Anyone have Hendry ?

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lobo316 wrote: Anyone have Hendry ?
You mean besides every living Cub fan ????

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Nobody had Mike Quade.

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Nobody picked him but Davis Payne was just fired by the St. Louis Blues. For some reason Ken Hitchcock is getting another head coaching job.

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no one have Joe Paterno?

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Nobody had Joe PA.

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a lot  to list this morning

Bruce Boudreau gone from the Washington Capitals

Turner Gill out in Kansas

RON Zook out at Illinois

Luke Fickell offically out at Ohio State

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Count Grog wrote: a lot  to list this morning

Bruce Boudreau gone from the Washington Capitals

Turner Gill out in Kansas

RON Zook out at Illinois

Luke Fickell offically out at Ohio State

Also, Paul Maurice just got canned from Carolina.

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Updated scores with Boudreau & Rambis.

Khawk 38
Grog 32
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
DFG 20
OneFanGang 19
CH 18
Lobo 13

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Nobody had Zook, Gill or the Ohio State coach.

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BTW, Dale Hunter has replaced Boudreau while Kirk Muller is
expected to replace the fired Maurice.

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clawmaster wrote: Updated scores with Boudreau & Rambis.

Khawk 38
Grog 32
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
DFG 20
OneFanGang 19
CH 18
Lobo 13

Not to be picky but I should have 19 points:


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10 points - Garth Snow ( GM - NY Islanders )
9 points - Ron Wilson ( Coach - Toronto Maple Leafs )
8 points - Jay Triano ( Coach - Toronto Raptors )
7 points - Chan Gailey ( Coach - Buffalo Bills )
6 points - Cory Clouston ( Coach - Ottawa Senators )
5 points - Clint Hurdle ( Manager - Pittsburgh Pirates )
4 points - John Fox ( Coach - Carolina Panthers )
3 points - Brent Sutter ( Coach - Calgary Flames )
2 points - Jack Capuano ( Coach - NY Islanders )
1 point - Ozzie Guillen ( Manager - Chicago White Sox )

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CanadianHorseman wrote: clawmaster wrote: Updated scores with Boudreau & Rambis.

Khawk 38
Grog 32
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
DFG 20
OneFanGang 19
CH 18
Lobo 13

Not to be picky but I should have 19 points:


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10 points - Garth Snow ( GM - NY Islanders )
9 points - Ron Wilson ( Coach - Toronto Maple Leafs )
8 points - Jay Triano ( Coach - Toronto Raptors )
7 points - Chan Gailey ( Coach - Buffalo Bills )
6 points - Cory Clouston ( Coach - Ottawa Senators )
5 points - Clint Hurdle ( Manager - Pittsburgh Pirates )
4 points - John Fox ( Coach - Carolina Panthers )
3 points - Brent Sutter ( Coach - Calgary Flames )
2 points - Jack Capuano ( Coach - NY Islanders )
1 point - Ozzie Guillen ( Manager - Chicago White Sox )



 

Not to be picky but Ozzie wasn't fired. He asked for his release.

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lobo316 wrote: Not to be picky but Ozzie wasn't fired. He asked for his release.

Not to be picky but................shaddup. :tongue:

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Lobo is right. Ozzie quit. The Sox said fine.

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clawmaster wrote: Lobo is right. Ozzie quit. The Sox said fine.

Yeah I know - it's just hard accepting that stingmark is ahead of me.

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Rick howeverthefuckyouspellhislastname, out as hfc @ UCLA

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Del Rio out in Jacksonville.

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khawk wrote: Del Rio out in Jacksonville.
It was his destiny.

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One Fan Gang the only one to have Del Rio.

Khawk 38
Grog 32
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
OneFanGang 21
DFG 20
CH 18
Lobo 13

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yea!!!!!!

Washington State football coach Paul Wulff was fired Tuesday after four years during which his teams won only nine games.

“I appreciate all that Paul has done for Washington State football,” athletic director Bill Moos said in a statement announcing the firing. “He was hired with the objective of rebuilding this program and establishing a solid foundation. For that I thank him.”


Wulff was 9-40 in his four seasons at Washington State, the worst winning percentage of any coach in the program’s history. The Cougars went 4-8 this season, doubling their win total from 2010. They were just 4-32 in conference play under Wulff.

Wulff had one year remaining on his contract and was guaranteed a year’s severance pay of $600,000 if he was let go before the end of the five years.

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Randy Carlyle out as coach of the Anaheim Ducks (NHL). Bruce Boudreau, formerly of the Washington Capitals is his replacement.

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Nobody had Haley.

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Grog the only one to have Tony Sparano

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Grog 34
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
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Angelic Assassin 23
OneFanGang 21
DFG 20
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clawmaster wrote: Grog the only one to have Tony Sparano

Khawk 38
Grog 34
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
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did you get my Paul Wulff points in?

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Count Grog wrote: clawmaster wrote: Grog the only one to have Tony Sparano

Khawk 38
Grog 34
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
OneFanGang 21
DFG 20
CH 18
Lobo 13

did you get my Paul Wulff points in?

No.

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Updated standings

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Grog 38
Claw 31
Stingmark 27
HBF 25
Angelic Assassin 23
OneFanGang 21
DFG 20
CH 18
Lobo 13

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I have to have maxed out as Marvin Lewis ain't getting fired, Gary Kubiak isn't going no where and neither is John Torterella  (maybe my best chance but need the Rangers to lose every game up to New Years eve and then bad)

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Terry Murray just got canned by the LA Kings. I don't think anybody had him.

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After all this we have a friggin' tie :tongue:

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Nobody had Jacques Martin.

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beejmi wrote: After all this we have a friggin' tie :tongue:

There's still lots of time for "boots to asses". I have high hopes for Ron Wilson.

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lobo316 wrote: beejmi wrote: After all this we have a friggin' tie :tongue:

There's still lots of time for "boots to asses". I have high hopes for Ron Wilson.

I have Ron Wilson on my list. I want him fired too.

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clawmaster wrote: lobo316 wrote: beejmi wrote: After all this we have a friggin' tie :tongue:

There's still lots of time for "boots to asses". I have high hopes for Ron Wilson.

I have Ron Wilson on my list. I want him fired too.

LOL!! Ron Wilson would make it a 3 way tie for the lead.

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The noose is tightening around Brent Sutter's neck.

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clawmaster wrote: The noose is tightening around Brent Sutter's neck.

I hope so. He's my 10 pointer.

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The noose is tightening and the clock is ticking both at the same time

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is theer a 2012 pool?

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Count Grog wrote: is theer a 2012 pool?
I'm sure there will be but there needs to be a tiebreaker.

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clawmaster wrote: Count Grog wrote: is theer a 2012 pool?
I'm sure there will be but there needs to be a tiebreaker.


1) Highest point pick that gets fired

2) most picks that get fired

3) Virtual coin flip by claw between the tied parties

I have no idea how this affects me if you're looking to apply them to this year, just thought of these off the top of my head.

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clawmaster wrote: clawmaster wrote: lobo316 wrote: beejmi wrote: After all this we have a friggin' tie :tongue:

There's still lots of time for "boots to asses". I have high hopes for Ron Wilson.

I have Ron Wilson on my list. I want him fired too.

LOL!! Ron Wilson would make it a 3 way tie for the lead.


 

The frigging Leafs have won 2 in a row, so it looks like Wilson will survive 2011.

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When is the submission deadline for the next one? 1/1/2012, I would assume?

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Tiebreaker - sudden death in January. Next point wins. (NFL regular season ends 1/1/2012)

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khawk wrote: clawmaster wrote: Count Grog wrote: is theer a 2012 pool?
I'm sure there will be but there needs to be a tiebreaker.


1) Highest point pick that gets fired

2) most picks that get fired

3) Virtual coin flip by claw between the tied parties

I have no idea how this affects me if you're looking to apply them to this year, just thought of these off the top of my head.

I'll be running next the 2012 fired pool.



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