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Derek Jeter just hit 3000 with a homerun

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Definitely did it in style as you would expect from a guy who always seems to rise to the occasion.  And the homer tied the game.  Amazing moment.

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Props to Derek Jeter.

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Doubled for hit #3,001.  He needs a triple for the cycle.  Wouldn't that be something.

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4 for 4, not a triple (yet) but another single.

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srossi wrote:
Doubled for hit #3,001.  He needs a triple for the cycle.  Wouldn't that be something.

Yep. Congratulations to my favorite player of my generation! A true class act.

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Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned


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Jeter just went 5 for 5 with the score tied in the 8th to give the Yanks the lead.  This is becoming one of the more historic games in history.  And people expected him to limp into 3,000.

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5/5 today with the go-ahead Ribbie! Nice Derek!



 

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This is just an unbelievable day for the Captain.  Congrats!

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Mo needs to close this out now or this end with a very sour taste.

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1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005

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srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's

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mike3775 wrote: srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's

I guess statistically it makes some sense since most guy who reach 3,000 aren't big home run hitters, and even if you are one the odds are against any one hit being a homer.  For Jeter it was incredibly unlikely since he only had 2 homers all year.

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The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did

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mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


There are classy Yankee fans?

Come on dawg this cat threw away a winning lottery ticket. He's an embarrassment to capitalism and the american spirit of doing anything to make a dollar.

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beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


There are classy Yankee fans?

Come on dawg this cat threw away a winning lottery ticket. He's an embarrassment to capitalism and the american spirit of doing anything to make a dollar.
es he did throw away a winning lottery ticket, but it was his to toss and I have respect for him.

I was shocked when I read that actually, as I was expecting to read that the fan has yet to contact Jeter or the Yankees to discuss the ball, like many wereplanning to do with A-Roids #600 HR

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Jeter is the 4th youngest player to reach the 3000 hit plateau.

 

Ty Cobb (34 years, 244 days)
Hank Aaron (36 years, 101 days)
Robin Yount (36 years, 359 days)
Jeter (37 years and 13 days)

Number 5 on the list is Pete Rose (37 years, 21 days) .
However, there's no way Jeter breaks Rose's record.
The following season at age 38, Rose batted  .331 with  208 hits.

 

http://bullpen-blog.com/2011/07/09/derek-jeter-joins-3000-hit-club-home-run/

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mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


That's a stupid fan.. He had at least 100K on his hands low-balling it and he gave it away to his precious Yankee hero who could care less about him...

What a goof..

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martini wrote: mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


That's a stupid fan.. He had at least 100K on his hands low-balling it and he gave it away to his precious Yankee hero who could care less about him...

What a goof..
Holding a baseball for money is scumbagish to me, much like pushing a kid out of the way for a foul ball

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mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's


I find it harder to believe that he is the only Yankee to reach 3000 hits. Seems like they should have many more with all those historic figures.



 

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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's


I find it harder to believe that he is the only Yankee to reach 3000 hits. Seems like they should have many more with all those historic figures.

I guess when you factor in the season are longer now, and guys like Gehrig and Mantle and Mattingly broke down, and Ruth and DiMaggio started their Yankee careers late, it makes sense.  The only other guys that would have a shot would be Yogi Berra or Bernie Williams, but none of those guys hit for a high enough average to get there.

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nyhack56 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's


I find it harder to believe that he is the only Yankee to reach 3000 hits. Seems like they should have many more with all those historic figures.

I guess when you factor in the season are longer now, and guys like Gehrig and Mantle and Mattingly broke down, and Ruth and DiMaggio started their Yankee careers late, it makes sense.  The only other guys that would have a shot would be Yogi Berra or Bernie Williams, but none of those guys hit for a high enough average to get there.

DiMaggio also served in the Military.

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mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did

Good work that fella.

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mike3775 wrote:
martini wrote: mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


That's a stupid fan.. He had at least 100K on his hands low-balling it and he gave it away to his precious Yankee hero who could care less about him...

What a goof..
Holding a baseball for money is scumbagish to me, much like pushing a kid out of the way for a foul ball


And the thing is, he still has the potential for a big payday, if he wants it. You know the 4 tickets management gave him are going to be good seats. For sake of argument, let's say the four total face value is $500. If he wants to sell those seats for the rest of the season's home games, that's around $20k right there. And that's not even counting the memoribilia. I'm sure he got a bunch of crap signed by Jeter. If he wants to turn around and sell that, I'm sure he'd pocket some big cash there as well.

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That is true as well, and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to sell some of those tickets for extra cash either.  Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that fan also isn't given a set of tickets to 1 game in each round of the playoffs and even the world series if they make it either, as I am sure Jeter would make sure the fan got to see those games as well.

I wonder if the ball will remain with Jeter or will go to the HOF in Cooperstown, considering its only the second time #3000 came from a HR, so it is a historic ball.


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mike3775 wrote:
That is true as well, and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to sell some of those tickets for extra cash either.  Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that fan also isn't given a set of tickets to 1 game in each round of the playoffs and even the world series if they make it either, as I am sure Jeter would make sure the fan got to see those games as well.

I wonder if the ball will remain with Jeter or will go to the HOF in Cooperstown, considering its only the second time #3000 came from a HR, so it is a historic ball.




The fan was given tickets to all games including playoffs for the rest of the season.

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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
That is true as well, and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to sell some of those tickets for extra cash either.  Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that fan also isn't given a set of tickets to 1 game in each round of the playoffs and even the world series if they make it either, as I am sure Jeter would make sure the fan got to see those games as well.

I wonder if the ball will remain with Jeter or will go to the HOF in Cooperstown, considering its only the second time #3000 came from a HR, so it is a historic ball.




The fan was given tickets to all games including playoffs for the rest of the season.
Playoffs included, thats fucking awesome.  I give the Yankees props for doing that

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mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
That is true as well, and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to sell some of those tickets for extra cash either.  Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that fan also isn't given a set of tickets to 1 game in each round of the playoffs and even the world series if they make it either, as I am sure Jeter would make sure the fan got to see those games as well.

I wonder if the ball will remain with Jeter or will go to the HOF in Cooperstown, considering its only the second time #3000 came from a HR, so it is a historic ball.




The fan was given tickets to all games including playoffs for the rest of the season.
Playoffs included, thats fucking awesome.  I give the Yankees props for doing that

After the game yesterday they sent the cameras to the clubhouse area and Jeter had a "receiving line" of greeters.  That kid was first on it.  Jay-Z was second.  Jay-Z said the kid was an idiot for giving up the ball for free.  :) 

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srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
That is true as well, and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to sell some of those tickets for extra cash either.  Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that fan also isn't given a set of tickets to 1 game in each round of the playoffs and even the world series if they make it either, as I am sure Jeter would make sure the fan got to see those games as well.

I wonder if the ball will remain with Jeter or will go to the HOF in Cooperstown, considering its only the second time #3000 came from a HR, so it is a historic ball.




The fan was given tickets to all games including playoffs for the rest of the season.
Playoffs included, thats fucking awesome.  I give the Yankees props for doing that

After the game yesterday they sent the cameras to the clubhouse area and Jeter had a "receiving line" of greeters.  That kid was first on it.  Jay-Z was second.  Jay-Z said the kid was an idiot for giving up the ball for free.  :) 
Jay-Z was just pissed he was #2

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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's


I find it harder to believe that he is the only Yankee to reach 3000 hits. Seems like they should have many more with all those historic figures.

No shit right?

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mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

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stingmark wrote:
mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

No way he makes it by next year. Maybe 2 more.

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I saw a commerical on HBO saying that there is something called Derek Jeter 3K coming soon. It could be interesting.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote:
martini wrote: mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


That's a stupid fan.. He had at least 100K on his hands low-balling it and he gave it away to his precious Yankee hero who could care less about him...

What a goof..
Holding a baseball for money is scumbagish to me, much like pushing a kid out of the way for a foul ball


And the thing is, he still has the potential for a big payday, if he wants it. You know the 4 tickets management gave him are going to be good seats. For sake of argument, let's say the four total face value is $500. If he wants to sell those seats for the rest of the season's home games, that's around $20k right there. And that's not even counting the memoribilia. I'm sure he got a bunch of crap signed by Jeter. If he wants to turn around and sell that, I'm sure he'd pocket some big cash there as well.

And now the Atlantic has defended Lopez giving the ball back, offering a case that not only takes into account the cash that Lopez could conceivably get by selling the merchandise he received, but speaking of "utility theory".  Interesting argument.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/was-giving-jeters-3-000th-hit-back-a-dumb-move/241740/

This article brings up another great "What If".  What if a Yankees/Jeter fan hadn't caught the ball.  What if a Mets or a Red Sox fan had caught it?  What if the fan who caught it absolutely despised Jeter? 

All in all, I'd say Jetes was lucky Lopez was the guy that caught it.

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: I saw a commerical on HBO saying that there is something called Derek Jeter 3K coming soon. It could be interesting.
AN HBO camera crew has been following him around ever since he got off the DL. 

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stingmark wrote: mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

I think Damon still needs over 300.

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Chrisstlouis wrote: stingmark wrote: mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

I think Damon still needs over 300.

Damon will be 38 in November and has 2,663 hits.  Since 2006 he's been averaging about 150 hits a season.  So if he continues to do that for the rest of this season, next, and 2013 he'll just about get there.  He'll hang around to get it into 2014 if necessary because he wants it badly, but his skills could fall off a cliff and then he has no chance.

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I don't think he will make it. 

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mike3775 wrote: I don't think he will make it. 

Damon'll make it.  As rossi already calculated, barring injury, he'll finish this season around 2,720.  Damon has been remarkably consistent and injury free throughout his career, averaging 149 games in each of his 15 full seasons.  Even in his last 5 seasons, he's averaged 144 games, so not much of a tail off there.  Over that time span, he's been averaging 1.08 hits per game played, so even if his games tail off a bit (say 140 the next two seasons) he should, as rossi pointed out, make it by the end of 2013.

It would be one thing if Damon were struggling (or clearly at the very end of his career, ala Omar Vizquel), and we wanted him to limp into 3,000; then, I'd say he has no shot.  However, he's still playing at an above average level.  When he finally makes it, he'll go along with Craig Biggio as the two guys that I'll always say, "Oh yeah, that's right; he somehow managed to get 3,000 hits, didn't he?" 

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote: I don't think he will make it. 

Damon'll make it.  As rossi already calculated, barring injury, he'll finish this season around 2,720.  Damon has been remarkably consistent and injury free throughout his career, averaging 149 games in each of his 15 full seasons.  Even in his last 5 seasons, he's averaged 144 games, so not much of a tail off there.  Over that time span, he's been averaging 1.08 hits per game played, so even if his games tail off a bit (say 140 the next two seasons) he should, as rossi pointed out, make it by the end of 2013.

It would be one thing if Damon were struggling (or clearly at the very end of his career, ala Omar Vizquel), and we wanted him to limp into 3,000; then, I'd say he has no shot.  However, he's still playing at an above average level.  When he finally makes it, he'll go along with Craig Biggio as the two guys that I'll always say, "Oh yeah, that's right; he somehow managed to get 3,000 hits, didn't he?" 
The odds say otherwise though

Yes he has played in a shitload of games per year for over 15 years, but it may catch up to him, unless he is on one hell of a training program, as even Ichiro is starting to slow down now

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mike3775 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote: I don't think he will make it. 

Damon'll make it.  As rossi already calculated, barring injury, he'll finish this season around 2,720.  Damon has been remarkably consistent and injury free throughout his career, averaging 149 games in each of his 15 full seasons.  Even in his last 5 seasons, he's averaged 144 games, so not much of a tail off there.  Over that time span, he's been averaging 1.08 hits per game played, so even if his games tail off a bit (say 140 the next two seasons) he should, as rossi pointed out, make it by the end of 2013.

It would be one thing if Damon were struggling (or clearly at the very end of his career, ala Omar Vizquel), and we wanted him to limp into 3,000; then, I'd say he has no shot.  However, he's still playing at an above average level.  When he finally makes it, he'll go along with Craig Biggio as the two guys that I'll always say, "Oh yeah, that's right; he somehow managed to get 3,000 hits, didn't he?" 
The odds say otherwise though

Yes he has played in a shitload of games per year for over 15 years, but it may catch up to him, unless he is on one hell of a training program, as even Ichiro is starting to slow down now

From what I've heard, during his steroid years, Damon got himself in tremendous physical shape, and now, post steroids, continues to keep himself in excellent physical shape.

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Well I did say it would be a long time until someone clean hits 3000 again, Damon isn't it, but if he does hit 3000 oh well

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Theres a couple of guys that will hit 3000 in 3 yrs old less if they stick around:
AROD
Damon
IROD

I don't think Vizquel will make it even tho he' close

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Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

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mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.

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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

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mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.

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srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.
Its still possible, if he is a DH only in the AL and only bats, he can easily rack up the hits to get 3000, but its doubtful he could or will do it though

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mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.
Its still possible, if he is a DH only in the AL and only bats, he can easily rack up the hits to get 3000, but its doubtful he could or will do it though

Would YOU want IRod DHing for your team though? I don't think a .250 hitter with limited power is any AL team's idea of a successful DH.

The role he's in now is probably the best he can hope for since, as a catcher, he's still a better hitter that half of those in the league. Defensively though, I've heard he's lost a lot.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.
Its still possible, if he is a DH only in the AL and only bats, he can easily rack up the hits to get 3000, but its doubtful he could or will do it though

Would YOU want IRod DHing for your team though? I don't think a .250 hitter with limited power is any AL team's idea of a successful DH.

The role he's in now is probably the best he can hope for since, as a catcher, he's still a better hitter that half of those in the league. Defensively though, I've heard he's lost a lot.


My Tigers should take a shot @ him during the trade deadline? they have a bunch of .250 hitters, and guys who cant play still on their roster, whats 1 more gonna hurt?

We "miss out" on signing: Berkman/Abreau b/c Mr D doesnt want to pay them alot, yet, turns around, and gives Vmart $50+ mill.....Berkman's got over 20 hr's? makes sense. We couldve had berkman, if Dombrowski ponies up another million, but where does that go? to fucking SHITTY JOEL STINKMAYA........WHO IS(SURPRISE) INJURED YET AGAIn......UN FUCKING BELIEVEABLE

We keep garbage like: Inge/Guillen and Stinkmaya, yet, cant seem to sign guys to help us...so please, give Pudge another try? I like Maggs, but not @ $8 mill, and he's been injured all year.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.
Its still possible, if he is a DH only in the AL and only bats, he can easily rack up the hits to get 3000, but its doubtful he could or will do it though

Would YOU want IRod DHing for your team though? I don't think a .250 hitter with limited power is any AL team's idea of a successful DH.

The role he's in now is probably the best he can hope for since, as a catcher, he's still a better hitter that half of those in the league. Defensively though, I've heard he's lost a lot.
Thats better then Adam Dunn has been doing this year as DH

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mike3775 wrote:
Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited


Giants catchers ae hitting .220 and .172. He would be an upgrade and play full time this year.

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srossi wrote:
mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.


I agree. He was like Cervelli is now and he's my age. Irod has to have the most seasons ever played at the catching position. What he's done in all of these years is pretty incredible. I don't think he'll be able to straighten his knees past the age of 55 but that's another story.

He's also another Roid guy.

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HBF wrote: srossi wrote:
mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

If he's traded to the Giants he will be an instant starter.Eli Whiteside and Chris Stweart are good for 3 hits a week combined.
But they already have their starting catcher for the next few years with Posey. 

I give Rodriguez credit, he has lasted forever as a catcher, but its caught up to him, and sadly either going to 1B or DH are the only real options available for him to get the necessary hits, as his days as a starting catcher are limited

When he had that cup of coffee with the Yanks, I thought he was done.  He was just awful.  And that was a few years back and he's still hanging in there.  I don't think he makes 3,000 though.


I agree. He was like Cervelli is now and he's my age. Irod has to have the most seasons ever played at the catching position. What he's done in all of these years is pretty incredible. I don't think he'll be able to straighten his knees past the age of 55 but that's another story.

He's also another Roid guy.
Is he?  I cant recall reading anything about him doing them

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He was part of the Rangers connection. Canseco outed him in his book. If you look at his numbers, there does appear to be some smoke to the fire.

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Chrisstlouis wrote: He was part of the Rangers connection. Canseco outed him in his book. If you look at his numbers, there does appear to be some smoke to the fire.
Canseco hasn't been wrong about anyone yet.

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srossi wrote: Chrisstlouis wrote: He was part of the Rangers connection. Canseco outed him in his book. If you look at his numbers, there does appear to be some smoke to the fire.
Canseco hasn't been wrong about anyone yet.

Yeah because everybody in that era from 1979 - 2005 took some form of steroids or HGH, some didn't go overboard but as that Mitchell Report showed you steroids sometimes had no effect.



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