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 Posted: Tue Nov 19th, 2013 09:08 pm
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Interesting..   So Bruno held two world titles at the exact same time.

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Hi Ed
Thanks for you very informative reply.
I followed Australia’s World Championship Wrestling quite keenly through the 60s & 70s, occasionally getting to see the live events at The Sydney Stadium and later at the Hordon Pavilion in addition to never missing the channel 9 studio shows. I also saw quite a few live events at various clubs.

From what I have read, Jim Barnett was keen to get The Destroyer (Dick Beyer) to tour Australia, but Mark Lewin, who had a big influence over who visited Australia, spoke out against Dick Beyer, therefore John Hill, AKA Jerry Valliant worked in Australia under that name.

Also, to my knowledge, Bruno Sammartino never held the Aussie belt.

Please see listing below

Title history
Wrestler: Times: Date: Location: Notes:
Killer Kowalski 1 October 1964 ? Kowalski was awarded the title.
Dominic DeNucci 1 7 November 1964 Melbourne, Victoria
Ray Stevens 1 January 1965 Sydney, New South Wales
Dominic DeNucci 2 January 1965 Melbourne, Victoria
Mitsu Arakawa 1 May 1965 ? This title change occurred no later than this date.
Hercules Cortez 1 June 1965 ? This title change occurred no later than this date.
Killer Kowalski 2 June 1965 ?
Spiros Arion 1 6 August 1965 Sydney, New South Wales
Karl Krauser 1 1965 Melbourne, Victoria
Spiros Arion 2 1965 ?
Killer Kowalski 3 December 1965 Honolulu, Hawaii
Dominic DeNucci 3 12 February 1966 Sydney, New South Wales
Toru Tanaka 1 3 June 1966 Sydney, New South Wales
Mark Lewin 1 9 July 1966 Melbourne, Victoria
Skull Murphy 1 13 August 1966 Melbourne, Victoria
Bearcat Wright 1 19 August 1966 Sydney, New South Wales
The Destroyer 1 3 September 1966 Melbourne, Victoria
Spiros Arion 3 29 October 1966 Melbourne, Victoria
Ray Stevens 2 2 December 1966 Sydney, New South Wales
Billy White Wolf 1 11 February 1967 Melbourne, Victoria White Wolf vacated the Australian Heavyweight Championship after winning this title.
Killer Kowalski 4 May 1967 Melbourne, Victoria
Tex McKenzie 1 July 1967 Melbourne, Victoria
Skull Murphy 2 12 August 1967 Melbourne, Victoria
Bearcat Wright 2 19 August 1967 Melbourne, Victoria
Killer Kowalski 5 1 September 1967 Melbourne, Victoria
Mario Milano 1 8 September 1967 Sydney, New South Wales
King Curtis Iaukea 1 30 September 1967 Sydney, New South Wales
Mark Lewin 2 13 October 1967 Sydney, New South Wales
Ripper Collins 1 October 1967 ?
Mario Milano 2 October 1967 ?
Killer Karl Kox 1 January 1968 Melbourne, Victoria
Spiros Arion 4 January 1968 Melbourne, Victoria
Gorilla Monsoon 1 16 February 1968 Sydney, New South Wales
Spiros Arion 5 22 March 1968 Sydney, New South Wales
Baron Mikel Scicluna 5 15 June 1968 Sydney, New South Wales
Mario Milano 3 August 1968 Melbourne, Victoria
Toru Tanaka 2 20 September 1968 Sydney, New South Wales
Tex McKenzie 2 15 November 1968 Sydney, New South Wales
Skull Murphy 3 18 November 1968 Adelaide, South Australia
Bob Ellis 1 7 February 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
Killer Karl Kox 2 14 February 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
Spiros Arion 6 21 February 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
The Spoiler 1 4 April 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
Mario Milano 4 9 May 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
WCW joined the National Wrestling Alliance in August 1969, still recognizing this world title.
Killer Karl Kox 3 19 September 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
Billy Robinson 1 31 October 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
King Curtis Iaukea 2 19 December 1969 Sydney, New South Wales
Dominic DeNucci 4 January 1970 Sydney, New South Wales
King Curtis Iaukea 3 April 1970 ? This title change occurred no later than this date.
Stan Stasiak 1 December 1970 ?
King Curtis Iaukea 4 December 1970 ?
The title was retired in 1971 and replaced with the NWA Austra-Asian Heavyweight Championship. WCW then recognized the NWA World Heavyweight Championship as the world title.



The results are listed below for September 30, 1966


September 30, 1966. - World Championship Wrestling at Sydney Stadium in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. Noel Davis d Keith Thompson. Sandy Scott d Hans Schroeder. George Scott drew Roy Heffernan. Vittorio Apollo d Danny Miller. Skull Murphy & Brute Bernard d Steve Bolus & Gentleman Jim Hady. Bruno Sammartino d The Destroyer to win the IWA World title, but the title change is declared null and void after Sammartino won the second fall via dq.

I thoroughly enjoy all your postings as it brings back memories of some happy times.

Keep up the great work.

Cheers & Beers

50sville

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G'day 50sville,

I really appreciate your post.

I agree that Bruno Sammartino's victory over defending IWA World Champion The Destroyer (John Hill) in Sydney on Friday 30 September 1966 included winning the second fall on disqualification. The Destroyer won the first fall with a knee drop off the top rope. Sammartino won the second fall when The Destroyer was disqualified for using an object in his mask to head butt Bruno. Sammartino won the third fall with a Bear Hug and was declared the new IWA World Champion. The disqualification in the second fall also meant that The Destroyer did not have to unmask as he was not pinned or forced to submit for 2 falls. As you will recall, The Destroyer’s manager Dan Miller was chained to Jim Hady to prevent him interfering in the match.

To assess the title change situation one needs to review the result of the IWA World Title match from the previous week. On Friday 23 September 1966 in Sydney Sammartino defeated defending IWA World Champion The Destroyer on disqualification. The Destroyer won the first fall with a backbreaker over the knee. Bruno won the second fall with a backbreaker over the shoulder. Before the bell rang for the third fall, The Destroyer’s manager Dan Miller jumped into the ring and punched Sammartino with a roll of coins in his hand. Bruno was “knocked out” and declared the winner of the match via disqualification. However, it was decreed that Sammartino could not win the title because the bout had not entered the third fall.

I believe that promoters Jim Barnett and Johnny Doyle knew that cheating the fans out a Bruno title win due to disqualification wins 2 weeks in a row could have incited a riot at Sydney Stadium. Instead, the results that were printed in the Daily Telegraph newspaper on Saturday 1 October 1966 stated that Sammartino had won the bout by 2 falls to 1 but that an appeal was lodged against the decision. The inference in Sydney was that after Bruno had returned to the USA The Destroyer was restored as the IWA World Champion due to this appeal that was lodged against the decision.

However, on Saturday 1 October 1966 at the Sydney TV tapings Sammartino was acknowledged as IWA World Champion while the appeal against the decision was also mentioned. Furthermore, The Destroyer fired Dan Miller for his part in the masked man’s title loss and then announced that the returning Art Nelson would be his new manager.

On Saturday 1 October 1966 in Melbourne Sammartino successfully defended the IWA World Title by defeating Skull Murphy by 2 falls to 1. Bruno followed with title wins against Murphy in Adelaide on Monday 3 October 1966, Murphy again in Brisbane on Wednesday 5 October 1966 and Brute Bernard in Newcastle on Thursday 6 October 1966.

On Friday 7 October 1966 in Bruno’s last Sydney match of the tour Sammartino and The Destroyer both wrestled in tag team bouts so the matter of who held the IWA World Title was not an issue. For the record, The Destroyer and Nelson lost to George and Sandy Scott on disqualification while in the main event Bruno and Vittorio Apollo lost to IWA World Tag Team Champions Murphy & Bernard.

Sammartino’s final IWA World Title defence took place in his last Melbourne match of the tour on 8 October 1966. Sammartino lost the IWA World Title to The Destroyer on a count out in a 3 fall match which featured interference from manager Nelson.

I am very interested in the source of your quote that “Bruno Sammartino defeated The Destroyer to win the IWA World title, but the title change is declared null and void after Sammartino won the second fall via dq.” Did you maintain records of Sydney Stadium and TV results? As I mentioned, at the Stadium Bruno was declared the new IWA World Champion on Friday 30 September 1966. I still have the results from the Daily Telegraph newspaper on Saturday 1 October 1966 that read “World Heavyweight Championship: Bruno Sammartino defeated The Destroyer two falls to one. Appeal lodged against decision.” I will be a very happy man if you kept records of Sydney results and have retained same to this day. I have my own such records (and have also researched Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and Newcastle results) and have been trying for years to locate other enthusiasts with Australia’s World Championship Wrestling results.

Mate, I sincerely mean no offence when I say that, unfortunately, the IWA World Title history that you listed is incorrect. I’m not trying to be a smart arse when I state that my research has uncovered over 20 amendments to that particular title history. For starters, Karl Gotch is listed as Karl Krauser. We know that Gotch used the name Karl Krauser early in his career. Aussie fans also know that Karl (or Charles) Istaz wrestled in Australia from September to December 1965 under the name of Karl Gotch, not Karl Krauser. Secondly, Gotch never defeated Spiros Arion for the IWA World Title. Another 2 corrections concern the last 2 title changes. Stan Stasiak actually won the title from King Curtis Iaukea on 18 October 1970 at the Melbourne TV tapings. King Curtis regained the belt on 7 November 1970 at Melbourne Festival Hall.

Like your, I have also read that Mark Lewin may have blocked Dick “The Destroyer” Beyer being booked to wrestle in Australia. I believe, however, that this situation occurred in 1971 rather than 1966.

50sville, I sincerely look forward to your future postings on this forum and hope that we can exchange many memories of Australia's World Championship Wrestling.

Cheers!

Ed

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Hi Ed

You are definitely a fountain of information when it comes to Australia’s World Championship Wrestling.

Back in the 60s, I religiously cut out the results from Saturday Telegraph and stuck it in a scrapbook. On the odd occasion it wasn’t in the Telegraph, I looked in the Herald and it may have been in there. Back in those days we had afternoon editions of the Sun & The Mirror. (Saturdays were only about 12 pages) and they occasionally had a couple of paragraphs of the previous nights wrestling at the Sydney Stadium. These of course, went into the scrapbook.

I even went to the trouble of recording (audio) channel 9s Wrestling on a reel to reel tape recorder. Of course, this was well over forty years ago and the scrapbook and tapes are sadly long gone.

The results from September 30, 1966 were researched from the following link:

http://www.australianwrestling.org/index.php/results/79-1966

What you stated in your post make a lot of sense. For example, Karl Gotch only appeared in Australia under that name and not Karl Krauser. Nor can I ever remember him winning the championship. That is not to say, he may have won the championship in Melbourne, but this may not have been mentioned in Sydney. Although a top talent, Karl Gotch was only treated as a mid card wrestler in Sydney, but in Melbourne, with a stronger immigrant population, may have been a headliner.

I remember talking to another wrestling fan back in the 60s who came from Melbourne and he stated that sometimes different states recognised different champions. He gave an example, but unfortunately, I can’t remember the details.

This may have been a similar occurrence with Bruno Sammartino winning the championship. I can not remember him being the (Australian version) World Champion, although I remember him being referred to by Sam Menniker as the WWWF Champion, and Sam also explaining the different federations/ alliances etc.

Also, through every record I have researched, I have not seen any mention of Bruno being the World Champ (Australian version). Don’t get me wrong, I am not disputing what you say or arguing the case, it’s just what I can remember and my research.

Thank you very much for all your information as I enjoy reading and talking about this part of Australia’s modern history. I am sorry that I didn’t keep all my old clipping, but I’m sure the records must still be available somewhere.

I look forward to reading your posts.

50sville

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Ron wrote:
Interesting..   So Bruno held two world titles at the exact same time.

G'day Ron,

Yes mate, Bruno simultaneously held 2 world titles.

However, Sammartino was not billed on his 2 Australian tours as the WWWF Champion.

Cheers!

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50sville wrote:
Hi Ed

This may have been a similar occurrence with Bruno Sammartino winning the championship. I can not remember him being the (Australian version) World Champion.

Also, through every record I have researched, I have not seen any mention of Bruno being the World Champ (Australian version).

50sville


G'day 50sville,

Please refer to http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum1/32277-1.html
for a photo of Bruno Sammartino with the IWA World Title belt.

In that same topic are photos of Dominic DeNucci with the IWA World Title belt for the purpose of comparison.

I tried to post those photos (plus photos of Killer Kowalski and Spiros Arion with the IWA World Title belt) here but only the link would appear this time.

Cheers!

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I have found a results article from Amarillo stating that on October 12, 1972, The Red Devil was unmasked as Dick Beyer.

This fits perfectly with the Beyer ring record. For the dates in the summer of 72 that Beyer is listed as being injured, The Red Devil is wrestling in West Texas. He returns briefly in October to be unmasked, but there are no clashes of dates.

Attachment: Beyer.jpg (Downloaded 96 times)

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Dick weighted about 220 & was billed at 235.

The Destroyer was supposed to tour Australia on his world tour in 1971, but Mark Lewin got him cancelled because Beyer wouldn't put him over in LA in 1966. So he got himself booked in New Zealand instead. Below is from my "Dinner With The Destroyer: paper I wrote around 2002:

"Still in Samoa, Dick called Australia and the office told him that he’d been cancelled. In Australia Mark Lewin was a big star and he got Jim Barnett to cancel. Lewin’s dislike for Beyer goes back to March 24, 1967. Lewin was being pushed as the WWA World Champion in L. A. and Jules Strongbow asked Beyer if he wanted to stay a couple of weeks in town on his way to a Japanese tour and work a big Olympic card vs Mark Lewin. Dick agreed, but told Strongbow that he was doing the Japanese tour, and wasn’t in a position to put over Lewin. So the night of the match Strongbow left his booker, Lewin, and Beyer in the locker room and told the two to “work out the finish”. It was then that Lewin was told about Dick not jobbing and they argued. The match ends up a 60 min draw. Seems Lewin never forgot and screwed Beyer out of the Australia bookings. This may be the only person Beyer didn’t get alone with in his career. At least, that I know of. When Beyer started living in Japan, working full time with All-Japan Wrestling, one of his few loses was an April 14, 1973 job to Mark Lewin in the Carnival Tournament. I asked if this was a make up for the match in L.A. Dick said no. I asked if it was clean. He said: “Yes” and that it was done because Baba wanted it. Dick liked Lewin’s brothers a lot but said it wasn’t a good idea to turn your back on Mark. I said I like Lewin’s work in L. A. before he started doing all his goofy stuff and Dick just said: “Drugs”.

Beyer, still stuck in Samoa, talked with someone (I forget) who got him a few dates in New Zealand and contacted promoter Steve Rickard. Dick flew over and rented a house by the beach for his wife and kids. Soon after he goes into a newspaper office in Auckland and gave an interview as Dick Beyer. He wrestles soon after as Dick Beyer and sold out the arena. Then he got a phone call from the promoter Steve Rickard, who was wrestling in Japan under a mask as The Devil Butcher, and sets Dick up for a series of main events in which he is to remain unbeaten until Feb.; when Rickard would returned. Rickard also told him he wanted him to wrestle as The Destroyer. All this worked out fine, with The Destroyer defending his U. S. title vs Rickard and Mario Milano. The next week he went into the same newspaper office with his mask on and none of them realized it was Dick Beyer. I asked Beyer about The Destroyer teaming up with Dr. X in Auckland and he didn’t remember anything about it. I told him my sources (Libnan Ayoub) said me it was Bruno Bekker, and he said “could be”. He ended up making $800 to $900 a week in New Zealand because of a deal with Rickard for 25% of the gates. Soon after Jim Barnett heard about all the sold out cards up north and asked Beyer to come back to Australia. Beyer told him “no”."

Steve Yohe

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I bugged Beyer about the Red Devil result, and he told me for sure he never wrestled as "The Red Devil". He wrestled in Minnesota as Dr X the day before and after. Not him.

Even when Dr X got unmasked, he didn't use the name Dick Beyer....why would he go to Amarillo to get unmask?

Didn't happen. Probably a joke on the most famous masked man in history. Beyer wouldn't do it.

My Beyer record should also be credited to George Shire, and Matt Buziak. Also Haruo Yamaguchi, Koji Miyamoto & Melby.---Steve Yohe

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Steve,

I'm pretty sure that Beyer was not The Destroyer on the Jackson, Michigan card held on June 18, 1966. That was a small time promotion that ran Northern Indiana and some Michigan cities that bordered Indiana.
It was run by Billy Goelz and Johnny Gilbert and they used a few of their own boys as a 'Destroyer'. I remember once they even used Johnny Kace under the mask as The Destroyer.
Scott Teal did an in-depth interview with they guy who wrestled as Kurt Von Stroheim and he revealed who The Destroyers were. Definitely not Beyer.

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