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Week nine of the NFL season. Games start on Sunday (Thursday games arriving soon)

We have some 1 o' oclock games where there are three home teams that are on "bounce back" mode. Dallas (who was horrible Sunday night) hosts Seattle, Washington (who was blanked 23-0 by Buffalo) hosts San Fran and the Sainst (upset by the lowly Rams) take on the Tampa Bay Bucs.

4 o' clock is every bit as interesting as Green Bay is at San Diego. Who knows what version of the Chargers shows up this time? And a 2007-2008 season Super Bowl rematch (Giants vs Pats)

The Steelers and Ravens will have their usual "war" on Sunday night and Chicago is in Philly for the Monday night game.

Your picks, your fantasy moves, your comments on the games before they happen as they happen and afterward are all welcome. Scrolling down we take a look at the bookies odds for the week and yes my friends they ARE taking the Buffalo Bills seriously.


Atlanta (7) at Indy
Tampa Bay at New Orleans (8)
Cleveland at Houston (11)
NY Jets at Buffalo (1.5)
Miami at Kansas City (4)
San Fran (3.5) at Washington
Seattle at Dallas (12)
Denver at Oakland (8)
Cincy at Tennesee (3)
Ny Giants at New England (8)
Green Bay (5.5) at San Diego
Baltimore at Pittsburgh (3)
Chicago at Philly (8)

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Atlanta at Indy - Pains me to say that.
Tampa Bay at New Orleans
Cleveland at Houston
NY Jets at Buffalo
Miami at Kansas City
San Fran at Washington
Seattle at Dallas
Denver at Oakland
Cincy at Tennesee
NY Giants at New England
Green Bay at San Diego
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Chicago at Philly

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Week 9 Schedule
Doubleheader on Fox

CBS

1:00 pm:
Jets at Bills (Jim Nantz and Phil Simms)
Browns at Texans (Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts)
Dolphins at Chiefs (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots)

4:05 pm:
Broncos at Raiders (Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf)
Bengals at Titans (Marv Albert and Rich Gannon)


Fox

1:00 pm:
49ers at Redskins (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa)
Buccaneers at Saints (Dick Stockton and John Lynch)
Seahawks at Cowboys (Chris Myers and Tim Ryan)
Falcons at Colts (Ron Pitts and Jim Mora Jr.)

4:15 pm:
Giants at Patriots (Joe Buck and Troy Aikman)
Packers at Chargers (Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick)
Rams at Cardinals (Sam Rosen and Chad Pennington)

Sunday Night Football on NBC
Ravens at Steelers - 8:20 pm (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

ESPN Monday Night Football
Bears at Eagles - 8:30 pm (Mike Tirico, Ron Jaworski and Jon Gruden)

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The Steelers are playing without James Harrison,James Farrior,and Lamarr Woodley vs the ratbirds.

That would comparable to the ratbirds being without Ray Lewis,Terrell Suggs,and Jarrett Jackson.

Still,I expect the men in the Black and Gold to find a way to prevail this time.

Tampa at New Orleans should be a good one,Tampa pulled the upset last time and the Saints really screwed the pooch vs he Rams last week,I expect them to win this time in a close one.

Jets at Buffalo should be entertaining,and my upset special of the week is the Chargers somehow shocking the Packers.

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beejmi wrote:
San Fran (3.5) at Washington
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This seems low to me. The over under is 37 (lowest game this week).

Skins must have a good Defense and a shitty offense.
I think niners win 23-6

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I like Tampa plus 8 points. Not a believer in the Saints.

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I'm going with the favorites to win & cover, with the exception of the
following 3 games.

Seattle at Dallas (12) - Dallas should win but they won't cover

Cincy at Tennesee (3) - Cincy wins by 3 or 4

Baltimore at Pittsburgh (3) - Balt wins by 10
 



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I placed this bet last nite



Philly -7.5 over Chi
GB -6 over SD
KC -4 over Mia
Dal-11 over sea
sf-3.5 over Wash

50 bucks for 1241.00

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Jets lead Bills 3-0 on a Folk 49 yd field goal, in the 2nd Q.

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some scores at the half

Seattle & Dallas tied 6-6

Miami 14-3 over KC

San Fran 13-3 over Washington

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Jets 6-0 over Bills on a Folk 50 yd FG in the 3rd Q

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Jets 13-0 over Bills in 3rd Q on a one yd TD run by LT.

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Finally, the Bills get on the scoreboard on a 24 yd FG by Lindell.
13-3 Jets in 3rd Q.

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20-3 for Jets on an 8 yd pass from Sanchez to Holmes in 3rd Q.

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lobo316 wrote: some scores at the half

Seattle & Dallas tied 6-6

Miami 14-3 over KC

San Fran 13-3 over Washington

Seattle and Dallas tied at 6??? GAME OF THE CENTURY GAME OF THE CENTURY GAME OF THE CENTURY!!!

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27-3 Jets in the 4th Q on a one yd TD run.
Turn out the lights...........

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27-11 Jets. Bills score TD  on 7 yd pass to Nelson.

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Final scores

Atl 31-7 over Indy. Atl wins & covers

N.O. 27- 16  over TB. NO wins & covers

Houston 30- 12 over Cleveland,wins & covers

Miami 31-3 over KC. Miami wins & beats the spread.

San Fran 19-11 over Washingto, wins 7 covers

Dallas 23-13 over Seattle, doesn't cover

Jets 27-11 over Bills, wins & beats spread

 

 

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Oak 3-0 over Denver in 1st Q on a Janikowski 48 yd FG.

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7-3 Denver on a 27 yd TD pass - Tebow to Decker.

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10-7 Oak over Denver on 11 yd TD pass Palmer to Bush.

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17-7 Oak on Palmer to Reece 40 yd TD pass.

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17-14 Oak. Denver scores on a 26 yd TD pass Tebow to Royal in the 3rd Q.

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24-14 Oak in the 3rd Q. Palmer to Ford for  an 18 yd TD pass.

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New England 10 NY Giants 10.

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Cincy 21 Tennessee 17

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24-24 Oak & Denver. Mcgahee scores on a 60 yd run.

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Denver ties Oakland on a long run.

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31-24 Denver, on Royal's 85 yd punt return in 4th Q.

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38-24 Denver on Magahee's 24 yd TD run in 4th Q.

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Eli Manning TD to Ballard. Patsies likely defeated.

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Denver now 2-1 with Tebow starting...2 wins on the road..

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Rivers picked. Packers win.

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Arizona beat St Louis 19-13 on a 90+ yard punt return by Patrick Peterson in OT.

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How bout those Dolphins?

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Rivers and Jackson finally put together a game that I drafted them for and my FFL team is going to win by almost 70 points..THAT'S WHAT I NEED OUT OF YOU RIVERS...

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clawmaster wrote: I like Tampa plus 8 points. Not a believer in the Saints.
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clawmaster wrote: Eli Manning TD to Ballard. Patsies likely defeated.

Fantastic drive.  Manning threw a ball to Ballard on 3rd and 10 that was perfectly placed in the seem where the defenders had no shot at it.  People can kill Eli alll day, he is the most clutch QB we've ever had.

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Quattro wrote: clawmaster wrote: I like Tampa plus 8 points. Not a believer in the Saints.
Admit the error of your ways!!!

For the millionth time, I'm glad I don't bet.

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Baltimore had a long TD by Ray Rice called back on a holding penalty.

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Bengals win and improve to 6-2. Nobody saw that coming.

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Marvin Lewis is the Wayne Fontes of the '00s and '10s. As he gets closer and closer to being fired, his team becomes unstoppable.

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cookie32723 wrote: Bengals win and improve to 6-2. Nobody saw that coming.
It's called good drafting. WR AJ Green and QB Andy Dalton replace WR Chad Johnson and QB Carson Palmer. Plus the Bungles have all those draft picks coming from The Raiders  for Palmer.

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PeteF3 wrote: Marvin Lewis is the Wayne Fontes of the '00s and '10s. As he gets closer and closer to being fired, his team becomes unstoppable.

Same as Lovie Smith........

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PeteF3 wrote:
Marvin Lewis is the Wayne Fontes of the '00s and '10s. As he gets closer and closer to being fired, his team becomes unstoppable.


Somehow after suffering through a ten game losing streak last season in which his contract expired, Lewis was offered a new contract and after saying he would not return unless his demands were met, they were not met and he still resigned with the team.

Make sense? :tongue:

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New England is no longer an elite team. They are losing games they would have won a few years ago.

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Eli gave us all fits with his off the back foot wild throws but he's been so clutch at the end of games this year that I will take back what I said earlier. He's really playing much better (and having less drops by his WR's as well!).

Phillip Rivers has "2010 Eli Manningitis".

The Dolphins turned their outlook around in the Giants game. The hapless Colts are going to get Luck.

Has a team ever had an easier division to win than the NFC West? Look at the standings.

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clawmaster wrote:
cookie32723 wrote: Bengals win and improve to 6-2. Nobody saw that coming.
It's called good drafting. WR AJ Green and QB Andy Dalton replace WR Chad Johnson and QB Carson Palmer. Plus the Bungles have all those draft picks coming from The Raiders  for Palmer.


Oh I completely agree, I've been a fan my entire life and knew coming into this season that we wouldn't be as bad as everybody was saying. Even coming into this week at 5-2 we were still receiving very little media coverage outside of the Cincinnati area, which is fine as people continue to underestimate the team.

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Big time next week for the AFC East.

5-3 Patsies visit the 5-3 Jets and the 5-3 Bills go to Dallas.

Things are looking good for The Jets compared to where they were a month ago.

Hats off to Eli and The G-Men. They've got the Patsies number. Really did their cross town rivals Jets a big favor today. I LOVE IT!!!!

Eli is clutch. He scared me a couple times throwing into double coverage there near the end, but he got it done.
The Patriots pass rush was awful though as Eli had FOREVER to dance around in the pocket. And their corner's are terrible also. That rookie CB I don't think turned around once to see where the ball was when covering.

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

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carpetbeggar wrote: I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.
 

The Pats miss the Randy Moss of old. Neither Ocho Cinco Nor Branch have been able to replace the production Moss provided a few years ago. New England is finding out rebuilding on the fly is a bitch.

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Are the Bills toast or can they beat Dallas next week?

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clawmaster wrote: Are the Bills toast or can they beat Dallas next week?

They can beat Dallas next week for sure, but I'd put my money on Dallas.


Give the Jets D some credit. They shutdown The Bills. The Bills average something like 30 points a game. This loss could very well send the Bills crashing back down to reality. Next week will show how much character they have and if they are for real. Good teams are able to come back and keep on chugging after a down week. Lots of good teams get blown out every now and then, and what makes them good is to be able to put it behind them.

Like I said though the story of the game is how good the Jets are playing. They dominated a division rival that they needed to beat this week. They got it done on both sides of the ball. They're back to playing to their strengths. They've got the running game going again. Sanchez is Sanchez. He's probably never going to be a top 10 QB, but the kid finds ways to win and that's all that counts.
He works on protecting the ball more and reducing his turnovers, he'll do just fine.

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Baltimore 9 Steelers 6 at half.

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Oh and BTW I just saw this thread title at the Jets board I frequent:

The Jets won. While the Patriots, Bills, Raiders, Chiefs, Titans and Chargers ALL lost!!
That makes me happy tonight. Although my S&W fantasy team shit the bed today. I can live with it though as The Jets defense was part of the reason Sniper Niles beat me. :D

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Baltimore 16 Steelers 6. TD by Rice.

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On a fantasy note, I played two guys (in two leagues) that had Julio Jones.....ON THE BENCH! I am still losing in both matchups by a shitload and will lose this week. Oh, the irony.....

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16-13 Baltimore over Pittsburgh. TD by Mendenhall.

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clawmaster wrote: Are the Bills toast or can they beat Dallas next week?

Toast. Injuries expose their lack of depth due to bad drafting and not spending money. Add to it that the D was not very good to begin with.

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Flacco fumbles. Steelers have a chance to take the lead.

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HBF wrote: On a fantasy note, I played two guys (in two leagues) that had Julio Jones.....ON THE BENCH! I am still losing in both matchups by a shitload and will lose this week. Oh, the irony.....
I had Willis McGahee and Ben Tate among others on the bench today.

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TD Pass to Mike Wallace. Pitt takes the lead 20-16. Really good second half.

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Ravens win 23 to 20 on a TD to Torrey Smith.

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clawmaster wrote: Ravens win 23 to 20 on a TD to Torrey Smith.
best game of the day IMO

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PeteF3 wrote:
Marvin Lewis is the Wayne Fontes of the '00s and '10s. As he gets closer and closer to being fired, his team becomes unstoppable.


Nice reference to Wayne Fontes. I think he was Stingmark's favorite coach.

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clawmaster wrote:
TD Pass to Mike Wallace. Pitt takes the lead 20-16. Really good second half.


Fucker cost me my fantasy game!

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PeteF3 wrote:
Marvin Lewis is the Wayne Fontes of the '00s and '10s. As he gets closer and closer to being fired, his team becomes unstoppable.


Nice reference to Wayne Fontes. I think he was Stingmark's favorite coach.


Lol, he was horrible. One good season, thats it.

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clawmaster wrote:
carpetbeggar wrote: I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.
 

The Pats miss the Randy Moss of old. Neither Ocho Cinco Nor Branch have been able to replace the production Moss provided a few years ago. New England is finding out rebuilding on the fly is a bitch.


And yet Claw, NE couldnt wait to ship him out of town. They got what they wanted, now they're seeing that it wasnt such a great idea afterall. I said earlier, NE's D is shit. Itll be awhile before they win another sb.

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carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.

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DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

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mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems



 

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mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems


KK look at the history of the franchise. When are they not cardiac kids lol.

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mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems


KK look at the history of the franchise. When are they not cardiac kids lol.

1986 stands out as the clearest example.

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mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems


KK look at the history of the franchise. When are they not cardiac kids lol.

1986 stands out as the clearest example.

1986?  they destroyed almost every team they played you might mean 1990 when they got the fumble on the 49ers and Scott Norwood.

Also Tebow is only 1 game back off the division lead.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: nyhack56 wrote: krazykid18 wrote:
mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems


KK look at the history of the franchise. When are they not cardiac kids lol.

1986 stands out as the clearest example.

1986?  they destroyed almost every team they played you might mean 1990 when they got the fumble on the 49ers and Scott Norwood.

Also Tebow is only 1 game back off the division lead.


1986? Not true.

Week 1 L 31-28 at Dallas Cowboys
Week 2 W 20-7 vs San Diego Chargers
Week 3 W 14-9 at Los Angeles Raiders
Week 4 W 20-17 vs New Orleans Saints
Week 5 W 13-6 at St. Louis Cardinals
Week 6 W 35-3 vs Philadelphia Eagles
Week 7 L 17-12 at Seattle Seahawks
Week 8 W 27-20 vs Washington Redskins
Week 9 W 17-14 vs Dallas Cowboys
Week 10 W 17-14 at Philadelphia Eagles
Week 11 W 22-20 at Minnesota Vikings
Week 12 W 19-16 vs Denver Broncos
Week 13 W 21-17 at San Francisco 49ers
Week 14 W 24-14 at Washington Redskins
Week 15 W 27-7 vs St. Louis Cardinals
Week 16 W 55-24 vs Green Bay Packers

1st game against the Eagles and the last game of the season were there only true blowouts. 9-2 in games decided by a TD or less.

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nyhack56 wrote: krazykid18 wrote:
tofu_chipmunk wrote: nyhack56 wrote: krazykid18 wrote:
mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems


KK look at the history of the franchise. When are they not cardiac kids lol.

1986 stands out as the clearest example.

1986?  they destroyed almost every team they played you might mean 1990 when they got the fumble on the 49ers and Scott Norwood.

Also Tebow is only 1 game back off the division lead.


1986? Not true.

Week 1 L 31-28 at Dallas Cowboys
Week 2 W 20-7 vs San Diego Chargers
Week 3 W 14-9 at Los Angeles Raiders
Week 4 W 20-17 vs New Orleans Saints
Week 5 W 13-6 at St. Louis Cardinals
Week 6 W 35-3 vs Philadelphia Eagles
Week 7 L 17-12 at Seattle Seahawks
Week 8 W 27-20 vs Washington Redskins
Week 9 W 17-14 vs Dallas Cowboys
Week 10 W 17-14 at Philadelphia Eagles
Week 11 W 22-20 at Minnesota Vikings
Week 12 W 19-16 vs Denver Broncos
Week 13 W 21-17 at San Francisco 49ers
Week 14 W 24-14 at Washington Redskins
Week 15 W 27-7 vs St. Louis Cardinals
Week 16 W 55-24 vs Green Bay Packers

1st game against the Eagles and the last game of the season were there only true blowouts. 9-2 in games decided by a TD or less.

A Few of those games the Giants had the game wrapped up, these Giants have had only one real game wrapped up (STL) every other game has been Eli making a last play in the last minutes

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Denver better improve their O-Line if they want Tebow to survive the rest of the season.

So far Tebow has been doing ok

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Chicago at Philly (8)

Yep the game is tonight on ESPN. I think I'll do commentary here on the board. On paper just like the odds makers think, The Eagles should win. But games aren't played on paper. It's really a must win for both teams. The Bears are 4-3 but have already lost to division rivals Green Bay and Detroit. The Eagles are 3-4 and realistically have to win almost all their games to make the playoffs. A loss here for either team would be the kiss of death.  

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Denver better improve their O-Line if they want Tebow to survive the rest of the season.

So far Tebow has been doing ok

He kicked the Raiders ass yesterday. He actually made a few good throws.
Raiders are crap anyway. Hue Jackson took over when Al Davis died and he began running his mouth off and making the Palmer trade. It was great watching him look stupid on the sidelines.

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krazykid18 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: nyhack56 wrote: krazykid18 wrote:
mike3775 wrote: DaNkinator wrote: carpetbeggar wrote:

I don't get why they keep going to Ocho Cinco either. They should just release his ass now. If he hasn't learned the play book yet he never is. I didn't notice if Branch was just shutdown and couldn't get open, but Brady should have been going to him more. He's still good IMO.

Patriots are looking very mediocre, even on offense. People want to jump all over Ochocinco but he was open a lot in that game and Brady missed him every time. This Pats/Jets game next Sunday night is going to be enormous.

Any time the Chargers and/or Steelers lose, it's a good day...a good day indeed.
It seems that NE's magic has been given to the Giants.  That was one of the best games yesterday

It was an ok game should have been an easy ride but the Giants this yr like being cardiac kids it seems


KK look at the history of the franchise. When are they not cardiac kids lol.

1986 stands out as the clearest example.

1986?  they destroyed almost every team they played you might mean 1990 when they got the fumble on the 49ers and Scott Norwood.

Also Tebow is only 1 game back off the division lead.

Christ.  nyhack asked when the Giants weren't cardiac kids, so I cited 1986 when they beat the fool out of everyone.

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Why does ray ray Lewis get to cheap shot Hines Ward with an obvious helmet to helmet hit and not even get a flag? I hate the double standard in the NFL?

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katook wrote: Why does ray ray Lewis get to cheap shot Hines Ward with an obvious helmet to helmet hit and not even get a flag? I hate the double standard in the NFL?

Yet, Suh gets fined for stupid shit all the time & is labeled a "dirty player", despite him doing what pretty much every defensive does during a game? makes you wonder.

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katook wrote: Why does ray ray Lewis get to cheap shot Hines Ward with an obvious helmet to helmet hit and not even get a flag? I hate the double standard in the NFL?

If Lewis gets fined, he would send some of his "friends" to the NFL offices.

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If Lewis gets fined, he would send some of his "friends" to the NFL offices.


I still hate Lewis for fucking up the good thing we had going in Buckhead. Fucking douchebag!

Giants in 86 did win a lot of close score games but they were a very controlled team. The "Eli" moment that I can think of in 86 was the Minnesota Simms to Bobby Johnson for 17 yards to win in the 4th.

Tebow: He's the reason the line "sucks". Dude takes 9 step drops and is the most indecisive mf'er to ever play the position in the modern era. He's going to get killed because of his own stupidity, and rightfully so. Clady is an All-Pro tackle and can't hold guys for 17 seconds for the dumbass QB to figure out what to do.

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Bears have to Punt. Asante Samuel is hurt. Looks like he got kicked in the balls.


That's an irony, as he doesn't have any.

Go Bears!

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The O-Line isn't any better.  Howard Mudd aint blocking.

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nyhack56 wrote: The Eagles defense is the drizzling shits.  They couldn't sniff Cutler all night and got run all over by Forte and battered by Barber.

Have they stopped any runner this year? Their Linebacking crew is horrible.

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nyhack56 wrote: All that said, if the punter doesn't throw like a girl, the Eagles might have scored there.

They would have scored. No doubt about it.

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clawmaster wrote: I like Tampa plus 8 points. Not a believer in the Saints.
I was at the game and it was a blast. 

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HBF wrote:
Tebow: He's the reason the line "sucks". Dude takes 9 step drops and is the most indecisive mf'er to ever play the position in the modern era. He's going to get killed because of his own stupidity, and rightfully so. Clady is an All-Pro tackle and can't hold guys for 17 seconds for the dumbass QB to figure out what to do.

This comment made me think of this...


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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Denver better improve their O-Line if they want Tebow to survive the rest of the season.

So far Tebow has been doing ok

He kicked the Raiders ass yesterday. He actually made a few good throws.
Raiders are crap anyway. Hue Jackson took over when Al Davis died and he began running his mouth off and making the Palmer trade. It was great watching him look stupid on the sidelines.
They got to him often though, and if that keeps up, he won;t stay helathy for long though.  Tebow can take the punishment though, I give him alot of credit for that, he took a shitload of hard hits so far this year and escaped injury free so far.  Many teams would love to have a QB who can take the sort of hits Tebow has so far

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mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Denver better improve their O-Line if they want Tebow to survive the rest of the season.

So far Tebow has been doing ok

He kicked the Raiders ass yesterday. He actually made a few good throws.
Raiders are crap anyway. Hue Jackson took over when Al Davis died and he began running his mouth off and making the Palmer trade. It was great watching him look stupid on the sidelines.
They got to him often though, and if that keeps up, he won;t stay helathy for long though.  Tebow can take the punishment though, I give him alot of credit for that, he took a shitload of hard hits so far this year and escaped injury free so far.  Many teams would love to have a QB who can take the sort of hits Tebow has so far

Well it is easy to say that but lets not act like Tebow isn't fucking 260 of solid muscle with biceps that Batista and mason Ryan would envy.

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krazykid18 wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Denver better improve their O-Line if they want Tebow to survive the rest of the season.

So far Tebow has been doing ok

He kicked the Raiders ass yesterday. He actually made a few good throws.
Raiders are crap anyway. Hue Jackson took over when Al Davis died and he began running his mouth off and making the Palmer trade. It was great watching him look stupid on the sidelines.
They got to him often though, and if that keeps up, he won;t stay helathy for long though.  Tebow can take the punishment though, I give him alot of credit for that, he took a shitload of hard hits so far this year and escaped injury free so far.  Many teams would love to have a QB who can take the sort of hits Tebow has so far

Well it is easy to say that but lets not act like Tebow isn't fucking 260 of solid muscle with biceps that Batista and mason Ryan would envy.
No matter how big he is, one wrongly placed hit, and that 260 of solid muscle is gone for the year as well. 

If Denver wants him to remain their QB, they better get him better protection

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mike3775 wrote:
krazykid18 wrote: mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
Denver better improve their O-Line if they want Tebow to survive the rest of the season.

So far Tebow has been doing ok

He kicked the Raiders ass yesterday. He actually made a few good throws.
Raiders are crap anyway. Hue Jackson took over when Al Davis died and he began running his mouth off and making the Palmer trade. It was great watching him look stupid on the sidelines.
They got to him often though, and if that keeps up, he won;t stay helathy for long though.  Tebow can take the punishment though, I give him alot of credit for that, he took a shitload of hard hits so far this year and escaped injury free so far.  Many teams would love to have a QB who can take the sort of hits Tebow has so far

Well it is easy to say that but lets not act like Tebow isn't fucking 260 of solid muscle with biceps that Batista and mason Ryan would envy.
No matter how big he is, one wrongly placed hit, and that 260 of solid muscle is gone for the year as well. 

If Denver wants him to remain their QB, they better get him better protection

Against the Raiders it looked like they ran some plays from college for Tebow and the Raider bit on it hard. When other teams figure that out Tebow won't get 100+ yards rushing.

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Denver is doing the right thing. They have to see if Tebow can play. I don't think he can but still you have to know for sure.

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I don't think he can play, not at the NFL level anyway. In fairness to him, though, you'll never find out if he can or can't in Denver. They're awful. Tebow can't even fail with players that are good there, because they don't have any.



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