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 Posted: Sun Dec 11th, 2011 09:56 pm
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Famous Mortimer wrote: Everyone is making a shedload of money out of the game, so as the players are the ones generating it, they should be rewarded appropriately. If there was less money in the game, then the players should be paid less. Seems simple.
Its gonna happen sooner or later where even the rich fans say enough is enough and skip games.

I got to that point in 06 when the White Sox raised ticket prices after winning the world series, after that, I never go to games much, and when I do, its only with friends and not family for the most part to save money

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I completely agree.

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 Posted: Tue Dec 13th, 2011 02:32 pm
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Pujols wife sure isn't helping him right now


Albert Pujols' wife Deidre, in an interview with a radio station with ties to the former St. Louis Cardinals slugger, said the couple was prepared to take less money to stay in St. Louis, but were greatly disappointed when the team initially offered him a five-year deal.
Thursday, Albert Pujols signed a 10-year, $254 million offer with the Los Angeles Angels that contained no deferred money, as well as a 10-year personal services contract following that deal. The Cardinals' last offer to Pujols was for 10 years and $210 million, with $30 million deferred.
"The offer that people have seen on television I want to tell you what, listeners especially, had that offer been given to us with a guarantee, we would have the (Cardinals) bird on our back," Deidre Pujols told 99.1 Joy FM, a St. Louis-area Christian station that received some of its initial funding from Albert Pujols.
Deidre Pujols, speaking with interviewer Sandi Brown, who is her friend, said the couple initially had no plans to ever leave St. Louis or the Cardinals, the only team the first baseman had ever played for.
"When it all came down, I was mad. I was mad at God because I felt like all the signs that had been played out through the baseball field, our foundation, our restaurant, the Down Syndrome Center, my relationships, my home, my family close," Deidre Pujols told the station. "I mean, we had no reason, not one reason, to want to leave. People were deceived by the numbers."
She indicated the key moment was the Cardinals' initial offer of five years and $130 million.
"When you have somebody say 'We want you to be a Cardinal for life' and only offer you a five-year deal, it kind of confused us," Deidre Pujols said. "Well, we got over that insult and felt like Albert had given so much of himself to baseball and into the community ... we didn't want to go through this again."
Deidre Pujols told the station the negative reaction in St. Louis over her husband's decision to sign with the Angels has been striking.
"Albert has never lied. People are like 'Oh, we thought we knew who he was.' Well, we thought we knew who they were," she told the station.
"The city of St. Louis has absolutely been deceived and I have never seen hatred spread so fast and I understand why," she added. "Let me say that Albert and I never, not one time, ever made plans to leave this city."
Deidre Pujols also said she had no ill will toward the Cardinals or owner Bill DeWitt and that she understands the fans' frustration with her husband's decision.
"It's just like God," she said at the end of the interview, "to put us on a team called the Angels."



Insulted over a 5 yr $130 million deal at his age(which is rumored to be older than stated at that)?

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The idea that someone who claims to be humble, working for God, completely committed to staying in St. Louis, would be insulted by being offered $130 million for 5 years work is the worst of it, I think.

 

The thread running through the statements made by both sides is that Pujols wanted a certain level of money, and didn't care who gave it to him. If he'd genuinely wanted to stay a Cardinal, he would have done, and indeed said as much a few years ago. It's nowhere near as bad as the LeBron bullshit, but he's absolutely not covering himself in glory with the things he's saying.


If he just said "I feel I'm worth X dollars, and St. Louis couldn't give it to me, and it makes me sad to leave the team, but I have to go where the money is", I wouldn't have felt much better about it, but he'd be being honest, rather than this crap that everyone can see through anyway.

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I can't blame any athlete for taking as much money as he can,if the owners are willing to pay it,as your whole career can end in an instant.

What I do have a beef with is when guys say things like they want to "play here forever" then they turn right around and leave to somewhere else over money,after they have allready made enough millions of $$$ to last several lifetimes.

John Stockton said he allways wanted t play for the Utah Jazz and that he would never leave,and actually turned down offers for bigger money elsewhere to finish out his career there,but that's a super rare thing.



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katook wrote: I can't blame any athlete for taking as much money as he can,if the owners are willing to pay it,as your whole career can end in an instant.

What I do have a beef with is when guys say things like they want to "play here forever" then they turn right around and leave to somewhere else over money,after they have allready made enough millions of $$$ to last several lifetimes.

John Stockton said he allways wanted t play for the Utah Jazz and that he would never leave,and actually turned down offers for bigger money elsewhere to finish out his career there,but that's a super rare thing.
I dont blame them either, but will call them sell outs if they say what you mentioned, like Pujols did.  Pujols deserves the scorn he has been getting lately since the announcement.  His wife did him zero favors with her comments at all.

I have always had respect for guys like Tony Gywnn and Stockton, who did turn down offers to go elsewhere during their careers to remain where they played at.  There isn't many players left like that. 

I can't think of many players right now who have been on the same team for at least 10 years honestly and who are still on those teams

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Too bad the twunt didnt know how things work. The Cards offered a higher per year value. 26 million instead of the 19-20 of the previous offer. Then they went to 10 yrs and 220. I guess the Cards were just supposed to hand over a blank check??

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Chrisstlouis wrote: Too bad the twunt didnt know how things work. The Cards offered a higher per year value. 26 million instead of the 19-20 of the previous offer. Then they went to 10 yrs and 220. I guess the Cards were just supposed to hand over a blank check??

And also to pay him some post-career "ambassadors" contract, which seems to me the sort of thing retired players have done since time immemorial for free? If you can get it, then fair enough I suppose, but I'm sure the Cardinals would have offered him something towards the end of his career.

 

I don't want to dislike Pujols, and indeed in the days immediately after the announcement I didn't. But this is a perfect example of how not to spin something after the event. When your fans are on shitty wages and paying a fortune (relatively) to enter the ballpark, calling $26 million a year an "insult" is just going to piss them off.

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Famous Mortimer wrote: Chrisstlouis wrote: Too bad the twunt didnt know how things work. The Cards offered a higher per year value. 26 million instead of the 19-20 of the previous offer. Then they went to 10 yrs and 220. I guess the Cards were just supposed to hand over a blank check??

  I don't want to dislike Pujols, and indeed in the days immediately after the announcement I didn't. But this is a perfect example of how not to spin something after the event. When your fans are on shitty wages and paying a fortune (relatively) to enter the ballpark, calling $26 million a year an "insult" is just going to piss them off.
He has to feed his family

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clawmaster wrote:
Bump.


Why ?????



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It had to be bumped the Fielder contract was never revisited.

What did Prince get?
Who won the debate.



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Pujols has been a bust for the Angels and is now probably done for the year with a foot injury, and the Cardinals are in first place with the best record in the NL.

So I guess St. Louis won.



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sek69 wrote: Pujols has been a bust for the Angels and is now probably done for the year with a foot injury, and the Cardinals are in first place with the best record in the NL.

So I guess St. Louis won.

That's why CH.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote:
It had to be bumped the Fielder contract was never revisited.

What did Prince get?
Who won the debate.


On January 26, 2012 Fielder agreed to a nine-year, $214 million contract with the Detroit Tigers.

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