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Beej can post the odds later. Here's the TV lineup.

Week 15 Schedule
Doubleheader on CBS

Thursday Night Football
Jaguars at Falcons - 8:20 - NFL Network (Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock)

Saturday, December 17
Cowboys at Buccaneers - 8:20 - NFL Network (Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock)

CBS
1:00 pm:
Bengals at Rams (Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf)
Titans at Colts (Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts)
Dolphins at Bills (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots)

4:15 pm:
Patriots at Broncos (Jim Nantz and Phil Simms)
Jets at Eagles (Marv Albert and Rich Gannon)
Browns at Cardinals (Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker)


Fox
1:00 pm:
Redskins at Giants (Joe Buck and Troy Aikman)
Packers at Chiefs (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa)
Saints at Vikings (Dick Stockton and John Lynch)
Seahawks at Bears (Chris Myers and Tim Ryan)
Panthers at Texans (Ron Pitts and Charles Davis)

4:05 pm:
Lions at Raiders (Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick)

Sunday Night Football on NBC
Ravens at Chargers - 8:20 pm (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

ESPN Monday Night Football
Steelers at 49ers - 8:30 pm (Mike Tirico, Ron Jaworski and Jon Gruden)

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I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

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Jacksonville at Atlanta (11)
Dallas (7) at Tampa Bay
Washington at NY Giants (7)
Green Bay (14) at Kansas City
New Orleans (6.5) at Minnesota
Seattle at Chicago (3.5)
Miami (1.5) vs Buffalo
Carolina at Houston (6)
Tennessee (6.5) at Indy
Cincy (6) at St Louis
Detroit (1) at Oakland
New England (6.5) vs Denver
NY Jets at Philly (3)
Cleveland at Arizona (6.5)
Baltimore (2.5) at San Diego
Pittsburgh at San Fran (2.5)

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mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now

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beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now
From what I understand, thats why NBC has the option to flex, it gives teams on the rise a chance to be seen nationally(like Detroit this year).  And with Tebow somehow being Scotty for the Bronco's the past few weeks, you would think NBC and the NFL would want to put Tebow vs Brady on in primetime, unless they expect New England to blow em out early and it be no contest

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Baltimore at San Diego is still a good game though. The Ravens and Steelers
are joined at the hip in the standings and the Steelers are a big deal nationally. Steeler fans are going to watch that Ravens/Chargers game. San Diego one helluva potential spoiler.


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beejmi wrote: Baltimore at San Diego is still a good game though. The Ravens and Steelers
are joined at the hip in the standings and the Steelers are a big deal nationally. Steeler fans are going to watch that Ravens/Chargers game. San Diego one helluva potential spoiler.


That may be why they are not flexing, which I can also understand

Its not often where flexing can go either way with games

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mike3775 wrote:
beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now
From what I understand, thats why NBC has the option to flex, it gives teams on the rise a chance to be seen nationally(like Detroit this year).  And with Tebow somehow being Scotty for the Bronco's the past few weeks, you would think NBC and the NFL would want to put Tebow vs Brady on in primetime, unless they expect New England to blow em out early and it be no contest


CBS probably fought like hell to keep it.

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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now
From what I understand, thats why NBC has the option to flex, it gives teams on the rise a chance to be seen nationally(like Detroit this year).  And with Tebow somehow being Scotty for the Bronco's the past few weeks, you would think NBC and the NFL would want to put Tebow vs Brady on in primetime, unless they expect New England to blow em out early and it be no contest


CBS probably fought like hell to keep it.
I was reading Peter King from CNN/SI and here is what he said about it

Things you should know about how the NFL schedules TV games
Last week, the NFL raised a ruckus (certainly at the network where I work, NBC) by keeping the Baltimore-San Diego as the Week 15 Sunday night game on NBC, and keeping New England-Denver as a CBS Sunday afternoon game. Let me explain first why the league did that, then I'll tell you a few things about the gymnastics of which games go where.
When the flex schedule was established by the league for NBC's Sunday night package, it was done primarily to keep bad games (like some of the Monday-night clunkers we've seen) off of national TV on Sunday night. NBC paid for the right to flex out of a bad game. (More about why ESPN can't in a moment.) Flexing also gave teams rising from mediocrity (Detroit, for instance, eight days ago) the chance to play their way onto the Sunday night stage. And this is what NBC had hoped would happen when the league decided whether to keep the Ravens-Chargers as the Sunday night game or, as NBC wanted badly, to move the Patriots-Broncos, with the great Tebow story, to the night game, with Baltimore-San Diego moving to an afternoon start in San Diego.
NBC had a couple of good arguments. Denver had played its way into prime time, and Denver owner Pat Bowlen, a member of the NFL's Broadcast Committee, agreed. He wanted the game in prime time. New England is a big ratings attraction for NBC, and when the league flexed out of the New England-Indianapolis game a few weeks ago (understandably, obviously), NBC lost one of its two New England availabilities. Also, putting the game on CBS would mean it wouldn't be a national game. The New York, Philadelphia, Cleveland and Phoenix CBS affiliates will show their local teams' games and not Tebow-Brady. CBS, on the other hand, wanted to keep the game because of the Tebow factor and made its case to keep the game. And the case was a pretty good one: The Baltimore-San Diego game matched one team, following the Chargers' Monday night win at Jacksonville, that would enter the game one or two games out of the division lead, San Diego, against a team, Baltimore, likely to be tied for its division lead, in a dogfight with Pittsburgh. It didn't rise to the level of needing to take an A game to replace a B-plus game.
I can tell you this: The NFL would have moved Denver-New England to prime time if Jacksonville beat San Diego last Monday. There was still some internal debate to be had when San Diego won the game, but the NFL decided it couldn't justify taking the game from CBS.
Flex scheduling was designed with this primary objective -- to avoid a dog game. Baltimore-San Diego's not a dog at all. It's not Tebowmania, but those are the breaks.
Now, in the aftermath of the decision, it's been assumed that one of the league's powerful owners, Robert Kraft of the Patriots, had a major hand in keeping the game in the afternoon. An afternoon game in Mountain Time means the Patriots would get back to New England at about 2 a.m. If the game had been moved, their charter would return at about 6 a.m. Monday. With a Saturday afternoon game looming the following weekend, obviously the Patriots' preference would have been to play in the afternoon. I'm told two things reliably: Yes, Kraft did tell the league he wanted the game kept in the afternoon. No, Kraft did not strongarm the league in any way about it. "Categorically not,'' said a league source. "It's baloney. Whoever says that doesn't know what he's talking about.''
A few other network tidbits:
• ESPN flex. Many of you have emailed and Tweeted to ask why ESPN doesn't have the same kind of flex schedule. Answer: It's just impractical. It's one thing to move a game back four or seven hours to Sunday night. It's another to move a game, 12 days prior to it, 31 hours back. The hotels, the airplanes, the plans, the fans (inconvenienced enough by the movement from day to night and vice versa) ... It's just too much.
• Rulers. Who makes the final call on the Sunday night flex? NFL broadcast czar Howard Katz and commissioner Roger Goodell.
• Protected game. In early October, FOX and CBS must designate five games in the first six weeks of flex scheduling (and no more than one per network per week) that cannot be flexed to NBC. The Denver-New England game was not protected by CBS; the Jets-Eagles game that weekend was.
• Balancing act. There are 43 prime-time games per season -- 17 on ESPN, 18 on NBC and eight on NFL Network. The NFL cannot take more than 23 games per season away from either network. (CBS has AFC games and FOX the NFC games. In interconference games, most often, the road team dictates the network.)
• Long-term balancing act. This is year six of the eight-year contract with the networks. By the end of year eight, CBS and FOX must be nearly identical in the number of games they lose to prime time. I'm told it's pretty close to even right now so that shouldn't be a major factor in which games are shown in prime time in the next two seasons.
• Week 17. No network has the right to dictate time, and NBC is told which game will be on Sunday night. The NFL plots it to try to have a win-and-you're-in game as the last game of the year -- unless extenuating circumstances pop up. The Packers going for 16-0, for example; that might play a part in the league's decision.



I can see why New England wouldn't want to be flexed, but I never knew NBC has a deal to get 2 New England games(which explains why New England/Indy is always played at the same time every year on NBC)
I also never knew there were protected games, and I can see why CBS didn't protect this game, as no one saw Tebow and Denver being the way they are right now either.  But yeah, I could see CBS trying to keep it also even though they never protected it

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Jacksonville at Atlanta
Dallas at Tampa Bay
Washington at NY Giants
Green Bay at Kansas City
New Orleans at Minnesota
Seattle at Chicago
Miami vs Buffalo
Carolina at Houston
Tennessee  at Indy
Cincy at St Louis
Detroit at Oakland
New England  vs Denver
NY Jets at Philly
Cleveland at Arizona
Baltimore at San Diego
Pittsburgh at San Fran

I get that it's not much of a spread, but don't see why they chose Miami over Buffalo.  Buffalo can still put up numbers.  Miami is now without the best QB they've had all season and a new coach.

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The Falcons should cover easily tonight. The Jags are only 1-5 on the road.



 

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A guy I work with sent this to me:

"For God so loved the Broncos, he gave his only football son, Tebow, that whosoever should believe in him should not lose, but win in overtime.

John Elway 3:16"

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Tom Brady, after living a full life, died. When he got to heaven, God
was showing him around. They came to a modest little house with a faded
Patriots flag in the window. "This house is yours for eternity Tom, said
God. "This is very special; not everyone gets a house up here." Tom felt
special, indeed, and walked up to his house.

On his way up the porch, he noticed another house just around the
corner. It was a huge 3-story mansion with Orange and Blue sidewalks and
drive ways, a 50 foot tall flagpole with an enormous Broncos logo flag
waving, a swimming pool in shape of a horse, a Broncos logo in every
window, and a Tim Tebow jersey on the front door.

Tom looked at God and said "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful, but I
have a question. I was an all-pro QB, I won 3 Super Bowls, and I even
went to the Hall of Fame."

God said "So what's your point Tom?"

"Well, why does Tim Tebow get a better house than me?"

God chuckled, and said "Tom, that's not Tim's house, it's mine."

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Atlanta vs Jax on the NFL Network.

Jax kicking off. Atlanta's ball on their own 25.

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16 yard run by Turner.

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14 yard pass to Gonzales.

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TD Julio Jones!! Great run after catch.

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Atlanta 7 Jax 0

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Jax has to punt. Atlanta gets the ball at their own 41.

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First down Atlanta on a pass to White.

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19 yard pass to White. Atlanta in the Red Zone.

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FG Atlanta. 10-0.

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This game looks like an easy Atlanta victory. I'll be back later if Jax makes it interesting.

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It was a romp. Atlanta covered and then some.

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Saturday, December 17
Cowboys at Buccaneers - 8:20 - NFL Network (Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock)



Dallas is only 2-4 on the road but should win by 10 tonight.

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Plenty of good seats available for Dolphins-Bills and for Broncos-Bills next week.

If Miami was starting JP Losman, I'd say the Dolphins in a rout. However, it's Matt Moore, so I dunno. I'll still take Miami since the Bills are making a triumphant run for 5-11.

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Dallas Forced a Tampa fumble. Dallas driving in Tampa territory. 

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7-0 Dallas. This could be a romp. Don't know how long I'll watch this game.

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Tampa punts. Dallas ball at their own 31.

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1st and goal at Tampa 8.

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TD pass to Dez Bryant!! 14-0 Dallas. I'm done with this game. I'll come back later if Tampa makes it interesting.

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14-0 Dallas after 1st Q.

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At the half, Romo is 18-22 for 189 yds.
3 TD passes & 1 rushing TD.
not too shabby.

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28-7 for Dallas on a Dekoda Watson 4 Yard Fumble Return

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31-7 Dallas on a Dan Bailey 30 Yard Field Goal in the 3rd Q.

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31-15 Dallas on a 13 Yard Pass to Dezmon Briscoe & a 2 pt
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lobo316 wrote: 31-15 Dallas on a 13 Yard Pass to Dezmon Briscoe & a 2 pt
conversion  to Kellen Winslow in 3rd Q

I just tuned back to the game. Will be interesting to see if Romo & The Cowboys can blow this one.

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Dallas wins 31-15 covering the spread easily.

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Great game by Romo. Will Raheem Morris get fired?

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Great game by Romo. Will Raheem Morris get fired?

Just fire him now and get it over with.

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1:00 pm:
Bengals at Rams (Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf)
Titans at Colts (Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts)
Dolphins at Bills (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots)

4:15 pm:
Patriots at Broncos (Jim Nantz and Phil Simms)
Jets at Eagles (Marv Albert and Rich Gannon)
Browns at Cardinals (Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker)


Fox
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Redskins at Giants (Joe Buck and Troy Aikman)
Packers at Chiefs (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa)
Saints at Vikings (Dick Stockton and John Lynch)
Seahawks at Bears (Chris Myers and Tim Ryan)
Panthers at Texans (Ron Pitts and Charles Davis)

4:05 pm:
Lions at Raiders (Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick)

Sunday Night Football on NBC
Ravens at Chargers - 8:20 pm (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

ESPN Monday Night Football
Steelers at 49ers - 8:30 pm (Mike Tirico, Ron Jaworski and Jon Gruden)


 

The Jets over the Eagles by 8.

Picking the favorites in the other games. Can't see any other upsets unless
Green Bay & San Fran rest some players.

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Sanchez vs Vick. This game will be decided by which QB fucks up more. It's a must win game for The Jets. I've made it known I don't trust Sanchez. I don't know what to think of Philly at the present time.

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The Bears shouldn't be favored over anyone even Seattle. I like Seattle to pull the upset.

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Packers and Bengals to win a blow outs

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7-0 Buffalo on a 24 Yard Run by C.J. Spiller

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10-7 Dolphins on a 20 Yard Field Goal  by Dan Carpenter 2nd Q.

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13-7 Dolphins on a 26 Yard Field Goal by Dan Carpenter

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Pretty ho hum half for Brees. 3td's, 18/22 for 211 yards. Now he's only 506 yards behind Marino's record, and has 2.5 games left to pick up those yards.

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Brees going crazy 5 td's now 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

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9-7 KC over GB in 3rd Q

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Looks like Claw is on to something here.
21-14 Seattle over Chicago in the 3rd Q

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Seahawks 21 Bears 14


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big upset in the making here
23-3 Skins over Giants in the 4th Q

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35-13  NO over Minny 3rd Q
Saints taking no prisoners today.

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HUGE  upset here.
20-6 Indy over Tennesee in 4th Q.

 

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lobo316 wrote: 9-7 KC over GB in 3rd Q
12-7 KC in the 4th. Could it be ???

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lobo316 wrote: 20-7 Dolphins on a 65 Yard Pass  to Brandon Marshall in 3rd Q
23-7 Dolphins on a Dan Carpenter 26 Yard Field Goal in the 4th Q

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lobo316 wrote: 35-13  NO over Minny 3rd Q
Saints taking no prisoners today.

42-13 NO in the 4th Q

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Chiefs TD up 19-7 with 4:55 left.

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lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: 9-7 KC over GB in 3rd Q
12-7 KC in the 4th. Could it be ???

19-7 KC in the 4th.

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lobo316 wrote: HUGE  upset here.
20-6 Indy over Tennesee in 4th Q.

 

27-13 Colts!!

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lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: 20-7 Dolphins on a 65 Yard Pass  to Brandon Marshall in 3rd Q
23-7 Dolphins on a Dan Carpenter 26 Yard Field Goal in the 4th Q


 

23-13 Dolphins on a 3 Yard Pass to C.J. Spiller. 2 pt conversion failed

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lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: 20-7 Dolphins on a 65 Yard Pass  to Brandon Marshall in 3rd Q
23-7 Dolphins on a Dan Carpenter 26 Yard Field Goal in the 4th Q


 

23-13 Dolphins on a 3 Yard Pass to C.J. Spiller. 2 pt conversion failed


 

30-13 Dolphins on a Reggie Bush 76 Yard Run

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lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: 9-7 KC over GB in 3rd Q
12-7 KC in the 4th. Could it be ???

19-7 KC in the 4th.


 

19-14 KC in the 4th

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lobo316 wrote: Looks like Claw is on to something here.
21-14 Seattle over Chicago in the 3rd Q

38-14 Seattle in the 4th Q

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lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: lobo316 wrote: 20-7 Dolphins on a 65 Yard Pass  to Brandon Marshall in 3rd Q
23-7 Dolphins on a Dan Carpenter 26 Yard Field Goal in the 4th Q


 

23-13 Dolphins on a 3 Yard Pass to C.J. Spiller. 2 pt conversion failed


 

30-13 Dolphins on a Reggie Bush 76 Yard Run


 

30-20 Dolphins on a 2 Yard Pass to Derek Hagan

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Chiefs going to run out hte clock. Old fucks in Miami rejoice.Did Green Bay even really attempt to play in this game or did they mail it in? 

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this has been weenie week for sure,the weenie teams are winning all the games!!

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Tebow scrambles for a TD.

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Oooops,make that 6-0 Tebows,they fucked up the extra point.

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Packers/Bears losing, helps my Lions. Now they just need to win, sorry fuckers. Just let em walk in the ez..........fuck.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Chiefs going to run out hte clock. Old fucks in Miami rejoice.Did Green Bay even really attempt to play in this game or did they mail it in? 


They tried, but KC's D actually played well. It would have been a worse blowout if KC had been able to score TD's within the 5 yard line. 4 times They had 1st and goal at the 5 or closer, and ended up with 1 td, 2 fg's and stopped on a 4th and goal from the 1.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Chiefs going to run out hte clock. Old fucks in Miami rejoice.Did Green Bay even really attempt to play in this game or did they mail it in? 


They tried, but KC's D actually played well. It would have been a worse blowout if KC had been able to score TD's within the 5 yard line. 4 times They had 1st and goal at the 5 or closer, and ended up with 1 td, 2 fg's and stopped on a 4th and goal from the 1.
So GB lost do to Defense then.  I was wondering because I couldnt watch the game(and I wasn't gonna risk streaming it) and watching the score online, it seemed they didnt really try like they lost to get the media off of them before they make their post season run

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The Patriots defense took another hit with Carter being carted off the field.

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Green Bay is really banged up as well. Number one WR Greg Jennings out. Number two and number three tailbacks out. Both starting offensive tackles out. That being said. KC and especially Kyle Orton deserve a ton of credit.

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16-7 Denver in the 2nd Q

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16-14 Denver in the 2nd Q

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Broncos falling apart in the 2nd Q. 2 Huge fumbles.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Eagles ass raping the jets so far 28-0 in the 2nd quarter.Its the Eagles though, plenty of time for them to blow it

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clawmaster wrote:
Lions win!!


OMG! What a great game....Megatron for the win!!!!

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clawmaster wrote: Lions win!!
Yeah and Stafford killed me in the S&W FFL league, along with Harvin killing me and the damn Gints not scoring any points so Brandon Banks got no return yards.

Shit

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Quattro wrote: clawmaster wrote: Lions win!!
Yeah and Stafford killed me in the S&W FFL league,
me too, I have Rodgers, and wouldnt sit him all season...the one time I need to, and he fuckin plays like shit.

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30-7 Chargers,PAT coming up next.

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OMG! What a great game....Megatron for the win!!!!


What a dumbass defensive move by Oakland Defense. They put a linebacker to help cover Megatron.

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My one FFL team sucks and the other is fantastic-I won the league.

Giants are way too predictable in that they are so unpredictable. It would not surprise me that they win the next two weeks and take the division after looking like shit.

Could Eli have put better balls on Hakeem Nicks today? Hakeem is a real enigma in that he has a ton of talent but plays retarded 30% of the time and it hurts.

Perry Fewell needs to be fired, ASAP. I hope they bring back Spags to coach the D, since the brass will keep Coughlin if they win the division.

If you haven't seen the SNL skit on Tebow last night, it was priceless.

Pats are still nothing to fear. I would wager my savings that the Texans at full-strength easily win the AFC title, and still may make it despite the shitty play today.

Jets looked like horseshit. Philly, too little too late.

Flacco sucks. Totally overrated. Vincent Jackson is also a huge disappearing act considering that he holds such a matchup advantage and does so little with it. He's one of the most overrated players I've ever seen.

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"There hasn't been this much attention paid to a white bronco since OJ"

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Tebow makes some throws well but on others he looks worse than a high school QB. His worm killers that did not make it to receivers 15 yards downfield are inexcusable and he will be figured out and dealt with next year. No way is he going to run this gimmick offense another year with good results.



 

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My one FFL team sucks and the other is fantastic-I won the league.

Giants are way too predictable in that they are so unpredictable. It would not surprise me that they win the next two weeks and take the division after looking like shit.

Could Eli have put better balls on Hakeem Nicks today? Hakeem is a real enigma in that he has a ton of talent but plays retarded 30% of the time and it hurts.

Perry Fewell needs to be fired, ASAP. I hope they bring back Spags to coach the D, since the brass will keep Coughlin if they win the division.

If you haven't seen the SNL skit on Tebow last night, it was priceless.

Pats are still nothing to fear. I would wager my savings that the Texans at full-strength easily win the AFC title, and still may make it despite the shitty play today.

Jets looked like horseshit. Philly, too little too late.

Flacco sucks. Totally overrated. Vincent Jackson is also a huge disappearing act considering that he holds such a matchup advantage and does so little with it. He's one of the most overrated players I've ever seen.



Eli's WRs let him down big time yesterday. 4 drops in teh 1st 6 passes. How are you supposed to get in a rhythm? In the last quarter, Manningham the Wonderlic Kid faked out his own QB on a fucking option route.

Not looking forward to the Toilet Bowl at the Meadowlands next week.

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Philly looks like they are finally starting to gel as a team, and I really think Reid deserves one more year to see what that team can really do now that they are comfortable with each other

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My one FFL team sucks and the other is fantastic-I won the league.

Giants are way too predictable in that they are so unpredictable. It would not surprise me that they win the next two weeks and take the division after looking like shit.

Could Eli have put better balls on Hakeem Nicks today? Hakeem is a real enigma in that he has a ton of talent but plays retarded 30% of the time and it hurts.

Perry Fewell needs to be fired, ASAP. I hope they bring back Spags to coach the D, since the brass will keep Coughlin if they win the division.

If you haven't seen the SNL skit on Tebow last night, it was priceless.

Pats are still nothing to fear. I would wager my savings that the Texans at full-strength easily win the AFC title, and still may make it despite the shitty play today.

Jets looked like horseshit. Philly, too little too late.

Flacco sucks. Totally overrated. Vincent Jackson is also a huge disappearing act considering that he holds such a matchup advantage and does so little with it. He's one of the most overrated players I've ever seen.



Eli's WRs let him down big time yesterday. 4 drops in teh 1st 6 passes. How are you supposed to get in a rhythm? In the last quarter, Manningham the Wonderlic Kid faked out his own QB on a fucking option route.

Not looking forward to the Toilet Bowl at the Meadowlands next week.


Fuck, I'm not blaming Eli. If we didn't have him we'd be 1-13 like his brother's Colts. Fewell should be fired for sure. He's got the D back to Bill Sheridan levels. I think there's talent but some guys need to go, among them:
Rolle-shut the fuck up already. I hate that guy!
Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.

I'd love to get Spags back as DC and, even though I am grateful to Coughlin for the SB he has clearly lost the team, like happens every year. Time for a change.

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OMG! What a great game....Megatron for the win!!!!


What a dumbass defensive move by Oakland Defense. They put a linebacker to help cover Megatron.


Did you see the game? Didnt matter if Kareem Abdul Jabbar was covering CJ, wouldnt have helped.

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I just read this and found it interesting

Jerry Richardson goes to a funeral.
Last week, after the Panthers lost at home to Atlanta, longtime season-ticket holder R. Bruce Rognon, 71, of Pinehurst, N.C., was walking from the stadium to his car. Rognon collapsed. He died of a heart attack. His memorial service was Saturday in Pinehurst, and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, who did not know Rognon, got in his car and drove the 80 miles to the service. "He [Rognon] never missed a game,'' said Richardson. "The least I could do was go to the service and pay my respects. These fans are amazing. They do more than invest their money. They invest their time and emotion, and they buy into your team. It is such a sad thing for the family.''
I love that he got it in his car and drove to the funeral of a man he didn't know.
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Thats actually pretty cool of him to do.  Most owners would never do that for die hard fans, yet he did it.

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HBF wrote: Perry Fewell needs to be fired, ASAP. I hope they bring back Spags to coach the D, since the brass will keep Coughlin if they win the division.

I said when they hired him that you would hate him

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I said when they hired him that you would hate him


You did. I remember that. His work was vastly superior to Sheridan's when he first came on but this year has been ridiculous.

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mike3775 wrote: Philly looks like they are finally starting to gel as a team, and I really think Reid deserves one more year to see what that team can really do now that they are comfortable with each other


This is my fear. Close with a "rush". Spin it as "we were finally coming together at the end".



 

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My one FFL team sucks and the other is fantastic-I won the league.

Giants are way too predictable in that they are so unpredictable. It would not surprise me that they win the next two weeks and take the division after looking like shit.

Could Eli have put better balls on Hakeem Nicks today? Hakeem is a real enigma in that he has a ton of talent but plays retarded 30% of the time and it hurts.

Perry Fewell needs to be fired, ASAP. I hope they bring back Spags to coach the D, since the brass will keep Coughlin if they win the division.

If you haven't seen the SNL skit on Tebow last night, it was priceless.

Pats are still nothing to fear. I would wager my savings that the Texans at full-strength easily win the AFC title, and still may make it despite the shitty play today.

Jets looked like horseshit. Philly, too little too late.

Flacco sucks. Totally overrated. Vincent Jackson is also a huge disappearing act considering that he holds such a matchup advantage and does so little with it. He's one of the most overrated players I've ever seen.



Eli's WRs let him down big time yesterday. 4 drops in teh 1st 6 passes. How are you supposed to get in a rhythm? In the last quarter, Manningham the Wonderlic Kid faked out his own QB on a fucking option route.

Not looking forward to the Toilet Bowl at the Meadowlands next week.


Fuck, I'm not blaming Eli. If we didn't have him we'd be 1-13 like his brother's Colts. Fewell should be fired for sure. He's got the D back to Bill Sheridan levels. I think there's talent but some guys need to go, among them:
Rolle-shut the fuck up already. I hate that guy!
Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.

I'd love to get Spags back as DC and, even though I am grateful to Coughlin for the SB he has clearly lost the team, like happens every year. Time for a change.



Don't forget about Gilbride. He is such a hidrance to the offense it's ridiculous. His offense is terribly complicated. Eli throws half his interceptions because the WRs are allowed to run option routes and they are not smart enough to be on the same page with the QB, so they run the wrong route. Just look at the INT Eli threw in the endzone when Manningham faked him out. He faked out his own fucking QB!

They never commit to the run, and that make them 1 dimensional. Even if you are only getting 3.5 yards/carry, you have to run the ball to keep the defnese honest.

I say this to my dad every week. I swear Gilbride still thinks he's coaching Warren Moon in Houston running this run and shoot bullshit.

What does it say to Giants fans when this team has 7 wins, and 6 of them have come in the final minutes when Eli is running a no huddle and calling the plays himself?

Killdrive has gotta go.

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Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.


I don't know what happened to that guy. I don't get why they just don't use him for blitzing and running downs. His coverage is at a C.C. Brown level.



 

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Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.


I don't know what happened to that guy. I don't get why they just don't use him for blitzing and running downs. His coverage is at a C.C. Brown level.


The problem is their pass rush covered up a lot of deficiencies in the secondary. But, when you aint getting to the QB, your gonna get toasted on the back end.

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clawmaster wrote: Steelers vs 49ers tonight. Will Big Ben play? We'll see.
If he does, the Niner defence will rack up plenty of sacks. 

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Chris OtL wrote: clawmaster wrote: Steelers vs 49ers tonight. Will Big Ben play? We'll see.
If he does, the Niner defence will rack up plenty of sacks. 


According to the 15, 000 hrs of coverage ESPN's given it, they claim he is playing.

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Benlen wrote: Delay in game. Power outage at The Stick.ehh the NFL should go ahead and play, there plenty of light on the field right now, besides it be like playing football like you did as kids again

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I just read this and found it interesting

Jerry Richardson goes to a funeral.
Last week, after the Panthers lost at home to Atlanta, longtime season-ticket holder


Not to make light of the man's death, and this was a classy thing for Richardson to do, but:

How can you be a "long-time" Panthers season ticket holder? They've only been around, what, 15-16 years? Reminds me of people my age who claim to be "lifelong, die-hard Houston Texans fans". Really?

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: mike3775 wrote:
I just read this and found it interesting

Jerry Richardson goes to a funeral.
Last week, after the Panthers lost at home to Atlanta, longtime season-ticket holder


Not to make light of the man's death, and this was a classy thing for Richardson to do, but:

How can you be a "long-time" Panthers season ticket holder? They've only been around, what, 15-16 years? Reminds me of people my age who claim to be "lifelong, die-hard Houston Texans fans". Really?
To be fair, he may have been only 1 of a few who actually renewed year after year.  15-16 yrs is a long time to me to have continually renewed season tickets

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: mike3775 wrote:
I just read this and found it interesting

Jerry Richardson goes to a funeral.
Last week, after the Panthers lost at home to Atlanta, longtime season-ticket holder


Not to make light of the man's death, and this was a classy thing for Richardson to do, but:

How can you be a "long-time" Panthers season ticket holder? They've only been around, what, 15-16 years? Reminds me of people my age who claim to be "lifelong, die-hard Houston Texans fans". Really?

It might have been a long time for his dog.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: "Honestly, the check for the power bill is in the mail!" - San Francisco 49ersThis actually favors Pittsburgh because Ben can get his pain pills and injections during these outages

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mike3775 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: "Honestly, the check for the power bill is in the mail!" - San Francisco 49ersThis actually favors Pittsburgh because Ben can get his pain pills and injections during these outages


He can also whip his dick out in front of coeds because there are no witnesses without lights.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: mike3775 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: "Honestly, the check for the power bill is in the mail!" - San Francisco 49ersThis actually favors Pittsburgh because Ben can get his pain pills and injections during these outages


He can also whip his dick out in front of coeds because there are no witnesses without lights.
there is that fringe benefit as well

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tofu_chipmunk wrote:
mike3775 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: "Honestly, the check for the power bill is in the mail!" - San Francisco 49ersThis actually favors Pittsburgh because Ben can get his pain pills and injections during these outages


He can also whip his dick out in front of coeds because there are no witnesses without lights.


lol...this was my buddy Hark's facebook status after the first power outage:

"Someone just keep an eye on Rothlesberger in a situation like this."
:D:D

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Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.


I don't know what happened to that guy. I don't get why they just don't use him for blitzing and running downs. His coverage is at a C.C. Brown level.


Good to see you Bingo! And excellent analogy-CC Brown is the true measure of shititude in the NYG secondary for all-time's comparison.



 

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HBF wrote: bingo914 wrote:
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Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.


I don't know what happened to that guy. I don't get why they just don't use him for blitzing and running downs. His coverage is at a C.C. Brown level.


Good to see you Bingo! And excellent analogy-CC Brown is the true measure of shititude in the NYG secondary for all-time's comparison.

Can't Cover Brown, thanks for that awful flashback. :D

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HBF wrote: bingo914 wrote:
HBF wrote:
Ross-worst CB in the NFC, even more so than the two pussies in Philly who don't like to tackle. I know Ross is good tackler, he just can't cover anyone.


I don't know what happened to that guy. I don't get why they just don't use him for blitzing and running downs. His coverage is at a C.C. Brown level.


Good to see you Bingo! And excellent analogy-CC Brown is the true measure of shititude in the NYG secondary for all-time's comparison.

Can't Cover Brown, thanks for that awful flashback. :D


Well, if we want to add more bad Giants secondary memories, it is reminiscent of Phillippi Sparks, circa 1997 Vikings playoff game in the 4th quarter, except all season.

Or a "typical Will's game" with Peterson and Allen. Geez, we've had some shitty secondaries!

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The 49ers are killing The Steelers.

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Benlen wrote: Dumb fuck Ben Roethlisberger.
Fixed that for ya.



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