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 Posted: Sun Apr 13th, 2008 09:26 pm
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I don't know if anyone has considered the fact that people were simply dumber back then.  The media has ALWAYS reported wrestling as being fake and you can find tons of mainstream press articles on wrestling online mocking matches involving Thesz, Blassie, and all the other top stars of the day.  The tone is exactly the same as current day reports on Wrestlemania.  But a large percentage of wrestling fans still believed through at least the '60s despite the ridiculous gimmicks and some really bad business-exposing matches.



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clawmaster wrote: gogodelfin wrote: wrestling bears

Gogo makes a great point here. For all the talk how legitimately portrayed wrestling was back in the day, you had wrestling bears. You had freak show wrestlers like Maurice "The French Angel" Tillet. Hell he was even the World Champion and beat guys like Lou Thez. You had Gorgeous George as one of the top stars. You had the ballet dancer Ricki Starr. Gimmicks have been around a long time. VKM didn't invent them.


Of course not. And I'm not sure gimmicks are what make people react negatively to Vince.

In my case, the last bit of interest I had in WWE product vaporized when he had people kissing his ass on TV.

 

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Srossi makes a good point about attention to detail. Definitely missing today. And I'll give an example.

Superstar Billy Graham. Interview. Will tell you that this upcoming match will be (insert Dusty, Wahoo, Bruno, Backlund) last match ever and how the stipulations of the upcoming (insert bullrope, strap. stretcher match) work to his advantage and you should be a ticket because this is the last time you will ever see (insert Dusty, Wahoo, Bruno, Backlund)

The "hate" factor is missing also as nobody ever swears to do away with anyone "for good" anymore.

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Older wrestling was better because I watched it when I was a kid and it was something I really enjoyed and "got into".

 

You never like to see the things you really got into in childhood change. The evolution of old-time wrestling into sports entertainment naturally made my fondness for the old product grow.

 

It'll be the same thing for a kid who gets into wrestling today when he looks back at how much it has changed when he is 40. He'll naturally look back at what he enjoyed in his youth fondly. He may still enjoy what he sees when he is 40 but it just won't be the same.

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less PPV's

Tag team wrestling

Tag teams that where tag teams & stayed as tag teams for many years

drawn out angles

jobber matches

 



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It pretty much has already been said.  But for me it was a belief that the action was real. 

On TV the top names never lost and if they in a rare occassion did wrestle each other on TV it was a major event (though probably a doudle Dq-Count out )  Jobbers were fun to watch get killed.  Interviews were used to set up the house shows, there were no 15 minutes of promo tirade to start a TV show.  They actually had matches on it, be that they were 5-10 minutes squashes.

Championships really meant something.  Bruno held the World belt for years.  It made that title important.  The NWA belt was contiolled and didn't change hands every week (well unless they went to Japan)


Tag team wrestling was important.  There was always a hot tag team feud some where.

Guys came and went, talent was always new and not getting stale.  You always wanted to see if those guys you read about in magazines would be coming in.  And for that matter the magazines were interesting because you found out about guys in other territories.  There were actually magazines to buy, not the one promotions informicial magazine, or a magazine you have to search ebverywhere to find (PWI today).  There were 5-12 magazines every month at the newstand or drug store.

Girl wrestling wasn't forced fed down our throats.  It was a special attraction and while I enjoy a scantily clad bimbo as much as the next guy.  A couple 40 year old lezbo's were always 100 times the better workers back in the day.

Not all the guys looked alike, did the same moves, they didn't enter to music and fire works, they were not all steriod freaks (yeah some were) cookie cutter wrestlers.  Yeah some were fat and hairy, some had crazy gimmicks and some never took a bump.  But they were a lot more interesting.

Managers were at ringside, they interfered , they talked for theor wrestlers and were another thing to make a match interesting.

 

 

 



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clawmaster wrote: gogodelfin wrote: wrestling bears

Gogo makes a great point here. For all the talk how legitimately portrayed wrestling was back in the day, you had wrestling bears. You had freak show wrestlers like Maurice "The French Angel" Tillet. Hell he was even the World Champion and beat guys like Lou Thez. You had Gorgeous George as one of the top stars. You had the ballet dancer Ricki Starr. Gimmicks have been around a long time. VKM didn't invent them.

What the hell is wrong with wrestling bears???????:X



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Guys came and went, talent was always new and not getting stale. 

Excellent point. Nobody comes and gioes now and all of the best possible matches have happened. With everyone "under contract" there is little surprise movement now.

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They wrestlers and promotions made people care who won and lost, care who held the titles etc

That's the biggest thing for me that I miss



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Count Grog wrote:  A couple 40 year old lezbo's were always 100 times the better workers back in the day. 


Myth

Here is every old-school women's match ever:

Hair pull, stomp, arm bar, kick, hair pull snap mare, sloppy body slam, belt high drop kick, pin

The women today are better werkers, and way better looking.  There are a bunch of shitty woman wrestlers today, but they were all shitty back in the day.



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drdelaware wrote: Not everyone had ripped up physiques with buzzcuts died blonde.

No obligatory diva's match on every show

No 3 ways and fatal 4 ways because the writers needed to get as many people on the show as possible

Title belts meant something

Localized interviews

Unscripted promos
Fess up.  You ran around the house in your underwear cutting promos on your sisters and their stuffed animals, didntcha.

Title belts never meant anything.  They are a prop.

Old timey rasslin sucked just as much as it does now, its just now that you are a grown man.  All rasslin is geared to make the young preteen boys excited about the silliness it entails.

If you were 12 years old currently, in 25 years, you'd be singing the praises of Cena instead of that stupid Midnight Express.



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Portalesman wrote: drdelaware wrote: Not everyone had ripped up physiques with buzzcuts died blonde.

No obligatory diva's match on every show

No 3 ways and fatal 4 ways because the writers needed to get as many people on the show as possible

Title belts meant something

Localized interviews

Unscripted promos
Fess up.  You ran around the house in your underwear cutting promos on your sisters and their stuffed animals, didntcha.

Title belts never meant anything.  They are a prop.

Old timey rasslin sucked just as much as it does now, its just now that you are a grown man.  All rasslin is geared to make the young preteen boys excited about the silliness it entails.

If you were 12 years old currently, in 25 years, you'd be singing the praises of Cena instead of that stupid Midnight Express.



Port, dude, I am burying my mom.

Really man.

 

Seriously.

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