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We're not as early with this as you think. We have a Wednesday opening night game so yes less we're 72 hours away from the kickoff of "real football".

The season opens up in New York where the Giants begin defense of their Super Bowl Championship. The last defending champ to lose on opening day was the 1999 Denver Broncos.

People will be real interested to see if it is "business as usual" in New Orleans or if the new "Redskins" lead by RG3 can catch the Saints in a vulnerable position. And the Colts get "lucky" at Chicago or will the Bears be ready to play after last year's injury-riddled season.

49ers and Packers later on as two of the NFC's "finest" meet right away. We have a big playoff rematch Sunday night (Pittsburgh at Denver) and then a double header Monday night (Cincy at Baltimore / SD at Oakland)

All your picks, predictions, in game chat, fantasy chat -- all fair game.

I've posted the odds and usually a sports book posts them without too much movement between then and opening day. Not so this year. There was a "five point swing" in two games. Arizona opened as -2 1/2 and are now +2 1/2 due to Seattle's stellar preseason. Houston opened at -6 vs Miami and are now -11. All four strings on Miami's depth chart thoroughly outplayed in preseason ball.

Dallas at NY Giants (4)
Indy at Chicago (9.5)
Philly (8.5) at Cleveland
Buffalo at NY Jets (3)
Washington at New Orleans (9.5)
New England (6.5) at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Minnesota (4)
Miami at Houston (11)
St Louis at Detroit (8.5)
Atlanta (2.5) at Kansas City
San Fran at Green Bay (5.5)
Carolina (2.5) at Tampa  Bay
Seattle (2.5) at Arizona
Pittsburgh at Denver (1)
Cincy at Baltimore (6)
San Diego (1.5) at Oakland

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Dallas at NY Giants (4) Giants win and cover
Indy at Chicago (9.5) Indy wins
Philly (8.5) at Cleveland Philly wins and covers
Buffalo at NY Jets (3) Buff wins
Washington at New Orleans (9.5) Saints win don't cover
New England (6.5) at Tennessee Pats win and cover
Jacksonville at Minnesota (4) Jags win and cover
Miami at Houston (11) Houston wins and covers
St Louis at Detroit (8.5) Lions win and cover
Atlanta (2.5) at Kansas City Falcons win and cover
San Fran at Green Bay (5.5) Packers win and cover
Carolina (2.5) at Tampa  Bay Bucs win
Seattle (2.5) at Arizona Seattle wins and cover
Pittsburgh at Denver (1) Denver wins
Cincy at Baltimore (6) Ravens win and cover
San Diego (1.5) at Oakland Chargers win and cover

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Dallas at NY Giants (4) - Giants win and cover
Indy at Chicago (9.5) -Bears win, Indy covers
Philly (8.5) at Cleveland - Philly wins and covers
Buffalo at NY Jets (3) - Jets win and cover (9-3)
Washington at New Orleans (9.5) - Saints win and cover
New England (6.5) at Tennessee - NE wins and covers
Jacksonville at Minnesota (4) - Minnesota wins, Jax covers
Miami at Houston (11) - Houston wins and covers
St Louis at Detroit (8.5) - Detroit wins and covers
Atlanta (2.5) at Kansas City - KC wins, therefore covers
San Fran at Green Bay (5.5) - GB win and cover
Carolina (2.5) at Tampa  Bay - Tampa wins, and covers
Seattle (2.5) at Arizona - Arizona wins and covers
Pittsburgh at Denver (1) - Pittsburgh wins and covers
Cincy at Baltimore (6) - Baltimore wins and covers
San Diego (1.5) at Oakland - San Diego wins and covers

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Hey fuckers, don't forget there's a free pick 'em, no money involved for the winner though.

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Week one might answer two of my questions.

1 Is Buffalo a good sleeper pick to make the playoffs?

Buffalo at NY Jets (3) should provide the answer.

2 Does the addition of Peyton Manning make Denver a legitimate contender?

Pittsburgh at Denver (1) might provide an answer.

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I think I am going to take Stingmark's shitty Lions as a survivor pick vs chrisstlouis' shitty Rams. I just don't see them losing.

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clawmaster wrote:
Week one might answer two of my questions.

1 Is Buffalo a good sleeper pick to make the playoffs?

Buffalo at NY Jets (3) should provide the answer.

2 Does the addition of Peyton Manning make Denver a legitimate contender?

Pittsburgh at Denver (1) might provide an answer.



I don't know if we'll have any answers about the Bills as I feel the Jets are a mess and adding Tebow will prove to be nothing but a huge distraction.

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Opening day is hard to figure because part of you wants to believe what you saw in the preseason even though your head tells you that it's irrelevant.

If the Jets win 27-10 you won't be able to find one sportswriter on Monday that called the Jets a "mess" nor will you find one that suggested that the Bills would be playoff contenders this season.

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beejmi wrote: I think I am going to take Stingmark's shitty Lions as a survivor pick vs chrisstlouis' shitty Rams. I just don't see them losing.

Yikes I picked The Lions too.

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beejmi wrote:
Opening day is hard to figure because part of you wants to believe what you saw in the preseason even though your head tells you that it's irrelevant.

If the Jets win 27-10 you won't be able to find one sportswriter on Monday that called the Jets a "mess" nor will you find one that suggested that the Bills would be playoff contenders this season.


Everything I've read indicates the Jets' o line is such a mess that all the fuss over the QBs probably won't matter since both are likely to get killed this season.

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Dallas at NY Giants
Indy at Chicago
Philly at Cleveland
Buffalo at NY Jets
Washington at New Orleans
New England  at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Minnesota
Miami at Houston
St Louis at Detroit
Atlanta at Kansas City
San Fran at Green Bay
Carolina  at Tampa  Bay
Seattle at Arizona
Pittsburgh at Denver
Cincy at Baltimore
San Diego at Oakland

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Taken from another board.

Week 1 Schedule

Doubleheader on Fox

Wednesday, September 5
Cowboys at Giants - 8:30 - NBC (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

CBS
1:00 pm:
Patriots at Titans (Jim Nantz and Phil Simms)
Colts at Bears (Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf)
Dolphins at Texans (Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts)
Bills at Jets (Marv Albert and Rich Gannon)
Jaguars at Vikings (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots)


Fox
1:00 pm:
Redskins at Saints (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa)
Falcons at Chiefs (Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick)
Eagles at Browns (Dick Stockton and John Lynch)
Rams at Lions (Chris Myers and Tim Ryan)

4:25 pm:
49ers at Packers (Joe Buck and Troy Aikman)
Panthers at Buccaneers (Ron Pitts and Mike Martz)
Seahawks at Cardinals (Sam Rosen and Heath Evans)


Sunday Night Football
Steelers at Broncos - 8:20 pm NBC (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

Monday Night Football
Bengals at Ravens - 7:00 pm - ESPN (Mike Tirico and Jon Gruden)
Chargers at Raiders - 10:15 pm - ESPN (Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer)

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sek69 wrote: beejmi wrote:
Opening day is hard to figure because part of you wants to believe what you saw in the preseason even though your head tells you that it's irrelevant.

If the Jets win 27-10 you won't be able to find one sportswriter on Monday that called the Jets a "mess" nor will you find one that suggested that the Bills would be playoff contenders this season.


Everything I've read indicates the Jets' o line is such a mess that all the fuss over the QBs probably won't matter since both are likely to get killed this season.

I guess that's my beef. Not with you but how the teams are covered in this "ESPN" era. Everything is over-dramatized to make the story sound better. The offensive line is a "mess". The quarterback is going to "get killed". Any team with a significant injury in week one we will hear that their season is "over". And whoever gets their ass kicked the hardest opening day we will hear that team is "dissension racked". A team starting 0-2 will have a "must win or they are done" in week three.

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Dallas at NY Giants (4) - Giants to cover
Indy at Chicago (9.5) - Indy
Philly (8.5) at Cleveland - Browns 
Buffalo at NY Jets (3) - Jets to cover
Washington at New Orleans (9.5) - NO to win but not cover
New England (6.5) at Tennessee - NE to cover
Jacksonville at Minnesota (4) - Minny to win & cover
Miami at Houston (11) - Houston to win but not cover
St Louis at Detroit (8.5) - Detroit to cover
Atlanta (2.5) at Kansas City - KC to win
San Fran at Green Bay (5.5) - GB to win & cover
Carolina (2.5) at Tampa  Bay - TB to win
Seattle (2.5) at Arizona - Seattle to win & cover
Pittsburgh at Denver (1) - Denver to win
Cincy at Baltimore (6) - Baltimore to win & cover
San Diego (1.5) at Oakland - SD to win & cover







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FYI for Canadians with Bell, they're running a free preview of the NFL package on week 1.

I've gotten into the habit of putting one game on and having NFL RedZone running on my computer through one of the online streaming sites, which works for me. It's fun to flip around like a madman during week 1, though.

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Here in central North Carolina we often get hosed on what games the networks carry, and if the Panthers are playing forget it, you're fucked, you watch them or nothing.

Even if they are not playing we often get games nobody gives a crap about, like the jets vs browns or seahawks vs rams instead of good games like Steelers vs ravens or texans vs patriots, the people who make the decisions on what games to air are complete fucking morons.

I have a fix for that this year though,instead of having to go to my brothers house (he has directTV sunday ticket), I can watch the games right here n my computer with his username/password, so now I get to see all the Steeler games!!:D

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The Cowboys are beating the Giants 17-10 early in the 4th quarter. First half was boring. Second half exciting. Romo looking very sharp.

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24-10 Dallas. Turn out the light Dandy Don. The Party's over.

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I thought the replacement refs did a good job in the first half for the most part, but for some reason, they really started fucking up in the second half

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24-17 Dallas with 2:32 to go in the game.

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Romo passes to Ogletree for a first down on 3rd and 12. Two Minute warning. That should be the game. Giants have no time outs left. 

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NO comeback for Eli tonight.

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Dallas wins 24-17.



 

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clawmaster wrote: The Cowboys are beating the Giants 17-10 early in the 4th quarter. First half was boring. Second half exciting. Romo looking very sharp.

The defense also was sucking wind most of that half.  That helps.

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Eat it Giants. Romo the homo made you look like a bunch a bitches and our scrub, thrown together O-Line made your billion dollar pass rush squeal like a pig.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA




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brodiescomics wrote:
Eat it Giants. Romo the homo made you look like a bunch a bitches and our scrub, thrown together O-Line made your billion dollar pass rush squeal like a pig.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA







Come on now Bill - we're classier then that. Remember what Coach Landry said to Tony Dorsett after he scored his first NFL TD - act like you've been there before. ;)

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brodiescomics wrote: Eat it Giants. Romo the homo made you look like a bunch a bitches and our scrub, thrown together O-Line made your billion dollar pass rush squeal like a pig.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA





First chirpage of the season. Welcome back, NFL.

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Giants came out flat. Dallas played a good game. It's a wake-up call for the Giants. But their depth at DB is completely fucked right now.

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The Jets got rid of the offensive lineman who was fucking everything up. Only good thing about that Bills/Jets game is that Marv Albert is going to call it.

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Just a little over two hours until kickoff !!!!

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Looking forward to Steelers/Broncos tonight.

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brodiescomics wrote: Looking forward to Steelers/Broncos tonight.

I sure am too. Should be an excellent game. Might provide commentary here on the board.

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As for Da Bears, not sure what to expect. Urlacher's knee is still a question mark. Offensive line sucks. They should beat the Colts.

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Jets and Bills in an interception shootout at the Meadowlands. The rum is already flowing at my house.

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3-0 Browns

There will be a terrible meltdown in Philly if they lose to the Browns.

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Redskins run the same play ten times in a row but hey they're up 10-7

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21-0 Jets. Two touchdown passes (and one STUPID) interception for Sanchez. Tebow's played QB for three or four plays, no passes yet. Fitzpatrick has thrown two picks for the Bills, and they gave up a punt return touchdown.

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As much as I hate the Redskins, RG3 is fun to watch and is having a great 1st half.

11/12 150 Yards and 2 TDs - Add in another 50 or so yards rushing and you have a pretty awesome start.

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Of course my fantasy QB, Stafford, has looked like shit and thrown 2 Red Zone INTs.

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Just turned over to the Browns-Eagles game and some poor schmuck for the Iggles just got blown up!  His helmet went about 10 feet high.

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brodiescomics wrote: Of course my fantasy QB, Stafford, has looked like shit and thrown 2 Red Zone INTs.

And now a pick 6. As Stingmark would say...Jebus!

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brodiescomics wrote:
As much as I hate the Redskins, RG3 is fun to watch and is having a great 1st half.

11/12 150 Yards and 2 TDs - Add in another 50 or so yards rushing and you have a pretty awesome start.

Even tho the saints pass defense ain't that great RG3 looks really good.
He's playing like Vick.... Or what Vick is suppose to play like.

Andrew Luck is having a tough time with the Bears defense but game is still close ..17-14

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RGIII is for real.

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41-14 for the HIGH OCTANE OFFENSE of the New York Jets. Tebow is the second best quarterback in the building today, and he hasn't thrown a pass. Fitzpatrick sucks with great force.

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First Jets punt is in the 4th quarter. Tebow is on the punt unit. :D

The stupid fucking Lions are going to knock me out of my eliminator pool that has over $10,000 of prize money in it. Fucking Fuckers. Stingmark and Ultimate Sin are on my shit list now. :tongue:

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cdewar19 wrote: The stupid fucking Lions are going to knock me out of my eliminator pool...

Me too.

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Why is Matt Moore not the starting QB in Miami? When he was here in Carolina, when he got to play there that one season he looked damned good. Then 2 years ago he starts off slow and is injured IIRC in the first game and Carolina threw in the towel and threw Clausen out to the wolves so we could draft Luck (luckily, we got Cam). Miami gets him, when they finally make him the starter last year he goes off and looked great again, they get on a roll to end the season, and now he's backing up the rookie Tannehill who looks like total shit today..I just don't get it..:shock:

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brodiescomics wrote: cdewar19 wrote: The stupid fucking Lions are going to knock me out of my eliminator pool...

Me too.

Me three.

FUCK YOU STINGMARK. FUCK YOU ULTIMATE SIN.

Browns up on Philly in the 4th and if that holds up there will be mutiny in Philly Monday morning.

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Vick now with 4 interceptions including a pick six. Will the talking heads ever stop trying to paint him as an elite QB? He has about 2-3 games a season where he looks unbeatable but it's a 16 game season and the rest of the time he goes from average to just downright garbage, IF he's not on the sidelines hurt..

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Matt Moore should be the starting QB in Miami. Tannehill was a reach as a first rounder, and he is far too inconsistent.

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If you "make a list" of who is better than Vick he comes up in the middle somewhere. To be honest the other guys in the middle of the pack (Romo would be a good example) also get painted as "being elite". It's just how the media works. They want you to watch they want you to be interested.

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Lions up 27-23 and I want to thank Stingmark and Ultimate Sin for their participation and valued board membership.

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Eagles got lucky.

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Randy Moss gets a TD when nobody covers him. LOL.

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brodiescomics wrote: Randy Moss gets a TD when nobody covers him. LOL.

The swiss cheese on the fans heads is a tribute to their defense

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clawmaster wrote:

1 Is Buffalo a good sleeper pick to make the playoffs?

Buffalo at NY Jets (3) should provide the answer.


Buffalo sucks. I was wrong again!!

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clawmaster wrote: As for Da Bears, not sure what to expect. Urlacher's knee is still a question mark. Offensive line sucks. They should beat the Colts.

After Cutler tossed a pick six, Jay settled down and The Bears trounced the Colts.

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beejmi wrote: Lions up 27-23 and I want to thank Stingmark and Ultimate Sin for their participation and valued board membership.

This!!

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63 yard FG by David Akers to end the 1st half

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David Akers just doinked a 63 yard field goal to tie the NFL record.

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63 yard field goal by David Akers to end the half. The ball bounced off the cross bar and then over it. 49ers lead Packers 16-7 at half.

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Why did the Eagles give up on Akers?

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Benlen wrote: Why did the Eagles give up on Akers?
Nobody really knows THE reason. He was at that age where they let guys go when they want money. He was involved in some kind of shady investment thing off the field and word got out. And the playoff loss vs Green Bay a few years back he missed a couple (maybe three I forget) FGs. His range seemed to shrink to the point he was shaky from 40-45 yards out.

Basically a combination of small things but basically he pissed off Andy and Andy cut him loose without having an adequate replacement anywhere. I realize "it's just a kicker" and they're "a dime a dozen" but are they?

He had noooo such range though. That's a good 20 yards further than he was kicking in his last year here.

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Saints may have stunk it up today. But someone tell Vernon Davis that he is no Jimmy Graham and don't try to dunk it through the goalpost again?

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Benlen wrote:
Why did the Eagles give up on Akers?

Don't forget that a few teams signed him and then cut him loose before he even got to Philly.

EDIT - I just checked and 3 teams cut him before he signed on with Philadelphia - Carolina, Atlanta and Washington.

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Quattro wrote: Saints may have stunk it up today. But someone tell Vernon Davis that he is no Jimmy Graham and don't try to dunk it through the goalpost again?
You can't be serious if you think Jimmy Graham was the first tight end to do that wtf.

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49ers 30 Packers 22. Packers turn it over on downs. 49ers are going to win!!

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49ers win 30-22. Packers tried to come back but came up short.

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49ers 30 Packers 22. Packers turn it over on downs. 49ers are going to win!!

Yeeee haaawww

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clawmaster wrote: brodiescomics wrote: Looking forward to Steelers/Broncos tonight.

I sure am too. Should be an excellent game. Might provide commentary here on the board.

Start the game already!!

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Broncos get two first downs but then have to punt.

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Quattro wrote: Saints may have stunk it up today. But someone tell Vernon Davis that he is no Jimmy Graham and don't try to dunk it through the goalpost again?
You can't be serious if you think Jimmy Graham was the first tight end to do that wtf.

Absolutely I do. Who Dat

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Steelers punt. Denver's ball at their own forty yard line.

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Great punt by Pittsburgh. Denver's ball at their own one yard line. Pittsburgh's punter is former Chicago field goal kicker Kevin Butler's son. Makes me feel old.

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Denver punts. Good return by Antonio Brown. Defensive slug fest. 0-0 at the end of the 1st quarter. 

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Pittsburgh in the red zone.

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First Jets punt is in the 4th quarter. Tebow is on the punt unit. :D

The stupid fucking Lions are going to knock me out of my eliminator pool that has over $10,000 of prize money in it. Fucking Fuckers. Stingmark and Ultimate Sin are on my shit list now. :tongue:


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Lions up 27-23 and I want to thank Stingmark and Ultimate Sin for their participation and valued board membership.


Uh huh(only saying this now because.they won), you're not fooling anyone.:tongue:

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1st and goal at the Denver 9 yard line.

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Pittsburgh settles for a field goal. 3-0 Steelers.

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Denver driving.

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TD run by Moreno!!

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Denver 7 Pittsburgh 3.

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TD pass to Heath Miller.

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Pittsburgh 10 Denver 7 with 28 seconds to go in the 2nd quarter.

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Start of 3rd quarter. Pitt 3rd and 7 at their own 23.

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Field Goal. Pittsburgh 13 Denver 7. 9 minutes plus time consuming drive.

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Play under review. Dwyer's knee was down at the two yard line.

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End of 3rd quarter. Denver only had the ball for 36 seconds in the 3rd quarter.

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Pitt fails on 2 point conversion. Pittsburgh 19 Denver 14.

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Decker fumbled the ball over the goal line and then out of bounds.

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Denver makes the two point conversion. Denver 22 Pittsburgh 19. 

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Denver settles for field goal. Denver 25 Pittsburgh 19 with 3 minutes to go in 4th quarter.

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2 minute warning. Denver 31 Pittsburgh 19. Denver going for a two point conversion.

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Refs fucked up. Must run 2 point conversion before 2 minute warning. Denver fails to convert. Still 31-19.

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Big Ben sacked a third time. Pitt turns it over on downs. Denver will win 31-19.

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This Steelers defense is uglier than a monkeys miscarriage hanging from the top branches of a tree, they let the donkeys do whatever they pleased, whenever they pleased, now let the Manning ball washing begin.

A pee wee team could do better.

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First quarter was boring but the rest of the game was great.

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With the Broncos only having the ball for 36 seconds in the third quarter.. is that a record?

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katook wrote: This Steelers defense is uglier than a monkeys miscarriage hanging from the top branches of a tree, they let the donkeys do whatever they pleased, whenever they pleased, now let the Manning ball washing begin.

A pee wee team could do better.

Denver's wasn't much better on 3rd down conversions, I believe at one point, Pitt was 11/13 on them.  But that last few minutes, they brought tons of pressure.  I just couldn't believe that Denver didn't adjust on those sooner than that.


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Cincy at Baltimore (6)
San Diego (1.5) at Oakland

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I gotta ask this of the Alex Smith haters...

I just read about this stat. 

Alex Smith has broken Steve Young's team record for consecutive pass attempts without an interception (185+ for Smith vs 184 for SY)? That doesn't even include Alex's 68 attempts without an INT in the playoffs.

He's thriving under the new coaching staff, so does he get the benefit of the doubt yet that he just wasn't coached all that well previously?

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It's all about wins and losses not int % or qb rating with Smith. Harbough and Greg Roman seldomly allow him to throw a pass 15 yrds.
He checks down way to early and misses wide open receivers breaking away. Thank god the niners have a superior defense as they are on thefield most of the time in the 4th.
I always wonder what Harbaugh and Roman could do with a talented qb.

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OK, but if it's only about wins and losses, then how can anyone complain?  He isn't turning the ball over and is marching the team down the field in order to put up points.

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ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) Buffalo Bills receiver David Nelson is expected to miss the rest of the season with a torn ligament in his right knee.

And the news is a little more encouraging for running back Fred Jackson after tests on his right knee came up inconclusive. Doctors will now wait between seven and 10 days to conduct further tests to determine the severity of Jackson's injury.

Two people familiar with the injuries provided the updates to The Associated Press on Monday, a day after both players were hurt in a season-opening 48-28 loss at the New York Jets. Both people spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team has not provided any updates.

Nelson was hurt early into the fourth quarter when he went down away from the play. After being helped off the field, he was spotted walking on the injured leg along the sideline.

The third year player had become a favorite target of quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick last season, when he finished second on the team with 61 catches for 658 yards and five touchdowns.

Jackson was hurt early in the second quarter when he was cutting across to this right and Jets safety LaRon Landry hit Jackson just above the left knee. Jackson had already planted his right foot, and his right knee bent awkwardly as he was hit.

Jackson was able to walk off on his own and test his leg on the sideline before heading off to the locker room with a towel draped over his head.

Jackson, who signed a two-year contract extension in May, had been looking forward to open this season healthy after missing the final six games of last season with a broken bone in his left leg. The injury ended what had been a solid season by Jackson, who was regarded as the Bills midseason MVP.

Despite missing six games, he still finished with a team-best 934 yards rushing and six touchdowns.

Both injuries are significant blows to the Bills, who entered the season with high expectations of their chances of becoming bona fide contenders.

Jackson was expected to provide Buffalo's running attack a considerable one-two punch along with C.J. Spiller. Spiller responded in Jackson's absence by finishing with a career-best 169 yards rushing, including a 56-yard touchdown. And yet, Buffalo is suddenly thin at the running back position, with Tashard Choice serving as the lone backup.

The Bills do have two fullbacks in Corey McIntyre, whose mostly been used as a blocker, and Dorin Dickerson, who is expected to be used in the passing game.

The depth is no better at receiver as a result of Nelson's injury.

In opening the season with six receivers, including Brad Smith, who doubles as the team's wildcat quarterback, the Bills were already thin and limping at the position to begin with.

Starter Stevie Johnson had four catches for 55 yards and a touchdown against the Jets despite being hampered by a groin injury that has nagged him for much of the offseason. And there are concerns that Johnson will have to continue playing through the pain for the rest of this year.


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Falcons also lost Brent Grimes for the season due to a major injury to his Achilles.  Huge blow for them. 

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I was quite impressed with the debut of Todd Haley's offense. 

It was more of a balanced offensive scheme with running and passing. 

The most noticeable difference was the short passing game by Ben.  This should preserve his length of playing in the NFL if this offense is sustainable. 

The drives were time-consuming.  The "three and out" mentality with Ben running around and playing street ball were gone.  Ben was not consistently looking 20+ yards down the field for a completion. 

The Red Zone offense was so-so last night, but Ben underthrew a wide open Heath Miller which would have been a TD.  There was also another play in which Ben checked down but missed a wide open Mike Wallace. 

The proposed starting offensive line for the Steelers is almost completely decimated.  Gilbert is now out.  No. 1 pick OG DeCastro is on IR.  Foster also went out with an injury.  Mike Adams, the No. 2 pick, still looked green.  Legursky showed positively why he is a back-up. They ran out of o-linemen.  One more injury and they would have had to use a tight end on the o-line. 

The defense, eh, the defense.  LeBeau turned 75 and that looked to be the average age on defense last night for all those playing.  No pressure on Manning after the first half.  The defense was well-rested, but they looked exhausted???  Something was not right out there, and I do not think Harrison and Clark playing would have made that much of a difference. 

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TD pass to Malcolm Floyd. Chargers 10 Raiders 3. Oakland penalties accounted for 3 San Diego first downs on the drive.

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Chargers 16 Raiders 6. Oakland's long snapper got injured. The fill in guy hiked a grounder to Oakland punter and the punter was tackled. That led to a SD FG. The next Oakland punt was blocked. SD then kicked another FG.

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Oakland's long snapper got injured. The fill in guy hiked a grounder to Oakland punter and the punter was tackled. That led to a SD FG. The next Oakland punt was blocked.



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Another botched snap on an Oakland punt.


The surest bet in sports right now is that Oakland cuts this backup long snapper ( Travis Goethel ) within the next 48 hours.

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The Buffalo Bills not only got blown out Sunday but top running back Fred Jackson is out at least three weeks and receiver David Nelson is gone for the rest of the 2012 season.





Bills Overdue For a Win
The Bills got out to a hot start last season but faltered down the stretch. Their 1-9 record since Week 9 of last season is tied with the Buccaneers for the worst in the NFL.

Bills since 2011




Week 1-8 in 2011
Since


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1-9*

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Coach Chan Gailey gave the injury updates at his weekly news conference Monday, confirming an earlier report by ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

An MRI exam completed on Jackson's right knee Monday revealed nothing conclusive, a source familiar with result had earlier told Schefter. It likely will be 7-10 days before a timeline is established for his return but a source estimated that the running back will miss at least a month.

Jackson told Bills fans via his Twitter page that he'll be back on the field as soon as possible.

He wrote: "Thanks for all the prayers all well wishes. I will get back on field ASAP! Keep Billieving in us, jus more work to do!!"

Nelson, meanwhile, tore the ACL in his right knee Sunday, a league source told Schefter. Before his injury, Nelson had two catches for 31 yards Sunday. He was the team's second-leading receiver in 2011, finishing with 61 receptions for 658 yards and five touchdowns.

Both players were injured in the Bills' 48-28 Week 1 blowout loss to the New York Jets.

Jackson, who went on injured reserve last November with a broken right leg, went down with 11:07 left in the first half Sunday when he ran for 7 yards and was hit hard by LaRon Landry. Jackson went down immediately and stayed down for a few moments while he was checked by trainers before walking on his own to the sideline.

C.J. Spiller replaced him and got the Bills on the scoreboard, zipping past a few missed tackles by Landry and Bart Scott and scooting into the end zone for a career-best 56-yard score. Spiller finished with a career-best 169 yards rushing.

Nelson was hurt early into the fourth quarter when he went down away from the play. After being helped off the field, he was spotted walking on the injured leg along the sideline.





Jackson finished 2011 with 934 yards and six touchdowns. He has rushed for at least 900 yards in each of the last three seasons, including 2009 when he had a career-best 1,062 rushing yards.
Both injuries are significant blows to the Bills, who entered the season with high expectations of their chances of becoming bona fide contenders.

Jackson was expected to provide Buffalo's running attack a considerable one-two punch along with Spiller. Now, Buffalo is suddenly thin at the running back position, with Tashard Choice serving as the lone backup.

The Bills do have two fullbacks in Corey McIntyre, who has mostly been used as a blocker, and Dorin Dickerson, who is expected to be used in the passing game.

The depth is no better at receiver as a result of Nelson's injury.

In opening the season with six receivers, including Brad Smith, who doubles as the team's Wildcat quarterback, the Bills were already thin and limping at the position to begin with.

Starter Stevie Johnson had four catches for 55 yards and a touchdown against the Jets despite being hampered by a groin injury that nagged him for much of the offseason. And there are concerns that Johnson will have to continue playing through the pain for the rest of this year.



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