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Thursday night is the Giants at Carolina. Sunday night looks great (New England at Baltimore)

The rest of the games and odds

NY Giants (1) at Carolina
St Louis at Chicago (7.5)
Tampa Bay at Dallas (7)
San Fran (7) at Minnesota
Detroit (3.5) at Tennessee
Cincy at Washington (3.5)
NY Jets (3) at Miami
Kansas City at New Orleans (9)
Buffalo (3) at Cleveland
Jacksonville at Indy (3)
Philly (4) at Arizona
Atlanta at San Diego (3)
Houston (2) at Denver
Pittsburgh (4) at Oakland
New England at Baltimore (3)
Green Bay at Seattle (3)

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chicago by 7.5? they think they are that good or the rams get no credit??

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Chrisstlouis wrote: chicago by 7.5? they think they are that good or the rams get no credit??
I like The Rams plus 7 and a half. Hell I think the Rams could win the game straight up. Forte is not going to play and you never know which Jay Cutler is going to be in uniform.

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I think the Niners will rout the Vikings.
Steelers too vs the Raiders

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My picks...

NY Giants (1) at Carolina
St Louis at Chicago (7.5) - I wouldn't be surprised to see this go the other way though.
Tampa Bay at Dallas (7)
San Fran (7) at Minnesota
Detroit (3.5) at Tennessee
Cincy at Washington (3.5)
NY Jets (3) at Miami
Kansas City at New Orleans (9)
Buffalo (3) at Cleveland
Jacksonville at Indy (3)
Philly (4) at Arizona
Atlanta at San Diego (3)
Houston (2) at Denver
Pittsburgh (4) at Oakland
New England at Baltimore (3)
Green Bay at Seattle (3)

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The best thing about this week is that I am guaranteed that either the pats or ratbirds will lose.

The bad thing is that one of them will win.

Game of the week should be Atlanta vs San Diego, lemon of the week Buffalo at Cleveland.

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Carolina now a 2 1/2 point favorite over the Giants. Bettors reacting to the Giants having 4 starters out.

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Week 3 Schedule

Thursday Night Football
Giants at Panthers - 8:20 pm - NFL Network/Sportsnet/Sky Sports 1 (Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock)

Doubleheader on CBS

CBS
1:00 pm:
Chiefs at Saints (Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf)
Jets at Dolphins (Marv Albert and Rich Gannon)
--CTV Montreal/Atlantic
--Sky Sports 4
Bengals at Redskins (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots)
Jaguars at Colts (Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker)
Bills at Browns (Spero Dedes and Steve Beuerlein)
--CTV Toronto/Kitchener

4:25 pm:
Texans at Broncos (Jim Nantz and Phil Simms)
--Citytv and Sportsnet East
--Sky Sports 4
Steelers at Raiders (Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts)
--Sportsnet Ontario/West/Pacific

Fox
1:00 pm:
Buccaneers at Cowboys (Joe Buck and Troy Aikman)
-- CTV Ottawa/Northern Ontario
49ers at Vikings (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa)
--CTV Winnipeg/Alberta/Saskatchewan/British Columbia
Rams at Bears (Dick Stockton and John Lynch)
Lions at Titans (Ron Pitts and Mike Martz)

4:05 pm:
Eagles at Cardinals (Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick)
Falcons at Chargers (Chris Myers and Tim Ryan)


Sunday Night Football
Patriots at Ravens - 8:20 pm NBC/TSN/Channel 4 (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

Monday Night Football
Packers at Seahawks - 8:30 pm - ESPN/TSN/BBC Red Button (Mike Tirico and Jon Gruden)

To see the regional maps, http://the506.com/nflmaps/2012/wk3.html

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The giants are kicking the piss out of the panthers on both sides of the football, it's not even close to being competitive.

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Benlen wrote:
I think the Niners will rout the Vikings.
Steelers too vs the Raiders


Great picks there jimmy the greek

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It's now 23-7 Giants.

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Just goes to show what having a Defense will do for you. The damn Saints could have had a similiar result if they just had something that resembled a Defense.

By the way, I made the best and worst move in FFL this week. I grabbed Andre Brown in 3 leagues but chose to keep him on the bench and wait and see. Great move with the pickup. Bad move by not playing. At least I kept him off someone elses roster.



 

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That was totally unexpected to me.  I thought the Giants would struggle tonight.

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I think everyone did.  But the Panthers defense is in shambles.  Those guys were worn out by the end of the first quarter. 

I loved that Cam Newton commented how the Giants didn't really beat them, that they beat themselves.

No. You got spanked because their defense read everything you were doing, pretty much the entire game and picked you off 3 times. You had no run game because their defense man-handled your O-line.

And best of all, their offense spanked your team's lackluster defense.

He came across as a total tool with those comments.

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Bump.

The Vikings trounced the 49ers. So much for San Fran being the best team in the NFL. Both teams now 2-1.

The Bears won a very ugly game over the Rams 20-6. Cutler didn't play well. Neither did Bradford. The Bears D won this game.

Tennessee beat Detroit 44-41 in overtime. Detroit was trailing 41-27 late in the 4th quarter.  They scored two TDs in 18 seconds to tie the game and send it to overtime. Detriot is now 1-2.

Green Bay plays Seattle Monday night.

That's the NFC North division report. Maybe somebody else can cover the other divisions.

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Vick now has 9 turnovers in basically two and a half games this season...I'm sure Kolb is enjoying himself today..lol..

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I know he just threw a TD, but Peyton Manning has NOTHING on his throws anymore, they are floaters...his arm is going to be jello by the end of the season..

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I know he just threw a TD, but Peyton Manning has NOTHING on his throws anymore, they are floaters...his arm is going to be jello by the end of the season..


This. Everyone was so concerned about his neck healing, there's been very little mention of the reports that the nerve damage from his neck had taken its toll on his throwing arm. I remember when he was taking throws last year when there was talk of him possibly coming back to the Colts, reports were he still had the accuracy but he had no zip left. That seems to still be the case.

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The Niners SUCKED today. I don't think they got within five yards of Ponder with their pass rush. Pathetic.

I was at the game. Lots of Niner fans there, but they had precious little to cheer for. :(

Oh well, that loss won't make or break the Niners year. They better fix their pass rush, though!

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clawmaster wrote:
Bump.

The Vikings trounced the 49ers. So much for San Fran being the best team in the NFL. Both teams now 2-1.



Dumb ass Alex Smith strikes again.Manningham and Moss are useless on the team with him at QB.

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Benlen wrote: clawmaster wrote:
Bump.

The Vikings trounced the 49ers. So much for San Fran being the best team in the NFL. Both teams now 2-1.



Dumb ass Alex Smith strikes again.Manningham and Moss are useless on the team with him at QB.

Moss missed two easy ones today. that said, Smith wasn't the real problem today. It was the ineffectual Pass rush. They made Ponder look like Brady/Manning/*insert good QB here*.

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DaNkinator wrote: I think everyone did.  But the Panthers defense is in shambles.  Those guys were worn out by the end of the first quarter. 

I loved that Cam Newton commented how the Giants didn't really beat them, that they beat themselves.

No. You got spanked because their defense read everything you were doing, pretty much the entire game and picked you off 3 times. You had no run game because their defense man-handled your O-line.

And best of all, their offense spanked your team's lackluster defense.

He came across as a total tool with those comments.

It is that way when the Giants beat teams San Fran, Green Bay said the same thing last yr playoffs

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khawk wrote:
Benlen wrote: clawmaster wrote:
Bump.

The Vikings trounced the 49ers. So much for San Fran being the best team in the NFL. Both teams now 2-1.



Dumb ass Alex Smith strikes again.Manningham and Moss are useless on the team with him at QB.

Moss missed two easy ones today. that said, Smith wasn't the real problem today. It was the ineffectual Pass rush. They made Ponder look like Brady/Manning/*insert good QB here*.

Smith missed Moss twice, once in the endzone. Smith checks down too soon. True the defense had problems with Ponder He kept scrambling to extend plays. When The Niners start a drive on the Viking 11 yd line you gotta come away with more than a FG.

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I've seen some shitty officiating this season so far, but watching the Chiefs NO game one upped them all. Watching NO's D get lit up by Jamal Charles though was pretty amusing.

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Principal_Raditch wrote:
I've seen some shitty officiating this season so far, but watching the Chiefs NO game one upped them all. Watching NO's D get lit up by Jamal Charles though was pretty amusing.


Blah

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Is it just me or do others have trouble hearing and understanding the NBC announcers? They have the crowd noise mic'd up too much.

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Cowboys win despite playing like shit.

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Ravens have given up already Cam Cameron already scoping out the Waffle House menu for after the game



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New England 27 Baltimore 21 with 6 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter.



 

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These replacement officials are terrible.  It's like they are afraid to make calls.  There was a stat that penalties aren't up that much this year, but I bet if you factor in what should be called, and what players are doing and getting away with, then the numbers would be through the roof.

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Principal_Raditch wrote:
I've seen some shitty officiating this season so far, but watching the Chiefs NO game one upped them all. Watching NO's D get lit up by Jamal Charles though was pretty amusing.


Im sure local sports shows in NO are flooded w/ "It's all Goodells fault we're losing, it's a conspiracy to keep the team down...blah blah blah".

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New England 30 Baltimore 21 with 10 minutes to go in 4th quarter.

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New England 30 Baltimore 28 with 4 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. 

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Very audible "Bullshit" chant in Baltimore. This game has been a mess.

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brodiescomics wrote: Very audible "Bullshit" chant in Baltimore. This game has been a mess.

The replacements refs have to go.

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Baltimore wins 31-30 on a last second field goal. The kicker almost missed the field goal after being iced by New England. 

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clawmaster wrote:
brodiescomics wrote: Very audible "Bullshit" chant in Baltimore. This game has been a mess.

The replacements refs have to go.


You know Al and Chris wanted to agree with the crowd so bad but couldn't. Al did get in a comment that it was the loudest chant of that sort he's ever heard.

Also fuck guys like Tony Dungy who have this mindset of "the coaches should just deal with getting fucked by incompetent refs because it is what it is". Motherfuck that in it's ear. This whole ordeal has made it undisputedly clear how full of shit the league is, they blow smoke up everyone's ass about player safety then put in replacement refs that are clearly over their head and lose control of games/miss calls leading to dudes getting their blocks knocked off.

This isn't the NHL or some B level league where you can argue they can't afford paying these guys more. The only reason we still have the scabs embarrassing themselves on national TV at this point is because King Roger is just slapping his dick in everyone's face. He doesn't care about anything other than imposing his will, just like he did on the players the last two seasons. He pretty much told James Harrison to blow him, you think some middle aged refs are going to stand a chance?

I honestly only think this gets resolved quickly if the networks step in.

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Chrisstlouis wrote: Benlen wrote:
I think the Niners will rout the Vikings.
Steelers too vs the Raiders


Great picks there jimmy the greek
No Jimmy could actually pick the winners

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Things to remember the next time the NFL crows about player safety :

This weekend alone we saw:

Helmet to helmet hit on Tony Romo

Matt Schaub get his ear Holyfield'ed by a crushing shot that knocked his helmet off

Big Ben get his leg taken out from behind

Darrius Heywood-Bey get KTFO from a helmet shot to the chin and taken to the hospital

....and NONE of those got flagged.

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nyhack56 wrote:
These replacement officials are terrible.  It's like they are afraid to make calls.  There was a stat that penalties aren't up that much this year, but I bet if you factor in what should be called, and what players are doing and getting away with, then the numbers would be through the roof.

Yeah they aren't that good but I won't blame them. They were thrown in there knowing they were the "B" level team. The regular officials were the ones that walked out. I don't know what all the issues are between the NFL and Refs but I am prepared for crappy officiating the rest of the season.

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sek69 wrote:
Things to remember the next time the NFL crows about player safety :

This weekend alone we saw:

Helmet to helmet hit on Tony Romo

Matt Schaub get his ear Holyfield'ed by a crushing shot that knocked his helmet off

Big Ben get his leg taken out from behind

Darrius Heywood-Bey get KTFO from a helmet shot to the chin and taken to the hospital

....and NONE of those got flagged.

plus...
The Niners got 4 time outs in one half.

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I *think* what will eventually be the fake refs undoing is the length of the games. Eventually CBS will turn to the NFL and tell them they would like to air "Sixty Minutes" at a reasonable hour.

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Not to mention the NFL Network got squeezed out of showing the end of the Steelers-Raiders game since they are contractually obligated to shut down the RedZone channel at 8pm EST.

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Benlen wrote: nyhack56 wrote:
These replacement officials are terrible.  It's like they are afraid to make calls.  There was a stat that penalties aren't up that much this year, but I bet if you factor in what should be called, and what players are doing and getting away with, then the numbers would be through the roof.

Yeah they aren't that good but I won't blame them. They were thrown in there knowing they were the "B" level team. The regular officials were the ones that walked out. I don't know what all the issues are between the NFL and Refs but I am prepared for crappy officiating the rest of the season.
They didn't walk out. They're locked out.

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How much money are we talking about anyway? I know the refs want better benefits basically. Has there been a $$$ amount put on it?

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The only way the replacements go, is when the NFL starts losing money.  But that will not happen, because fans will still tune in, fans will still go to the games, and fans will still buy the merchandise

Until the NFL starts losing money, they aint going to end this lockout

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Quattro wrote: How much money are we talking about anyway? I know the refs want better benefits basically. Has there been a $$$ amount put on it?
Peter King reported last night that the league and the officials met yesterday for several hours, but that talks broke off late in the afternoon with no planned talks scheduled.  He said that they're still far apart on two key issues, one being the $3M in pension for the refs, which the NFL is balking at.

All of this is on Goodell and the league now. 

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beejmi wrote: I *think* what will eventually be the fake refs undoing is the length of the games. Eventually CBS will turn to the NFL and tell them they would like to air "Sixty Minutes" at a reasonable hour.

I doubt it.  I'd need to see some ratings info to make a determination on that though.  I know 60 Minutes does very well for CBS, but I imagine that the longer NFL games are still bringing in more people over a longer period of time, so that can't be a bad thing for the networks.  Some people will turn off the blow-outs, but a game like Broncos-Texans, even though it wasn't very good and dragged, was close enough with the chance of a comeback that I doubt many turned it off. 



 

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DaNkinator wrote:
Quattro wrote: How much money are we talking about anyway? I know the refs want better benefits basically. Has there been a $$$ amount put on it?
Peter King reported last night that the league and the officials met yesterday for several hours, but that talks broke off late in the afternoon with no planned talks scheduled.  He said that they're still far apart on two key issues, one being the $3M in pension for the refs, which the NFL is balking at.

All of this is on Goodell and the league now. 


To be fair, I bet the NFL would drop the pension request, IF the refs would allow them to implement their system of having the next generation of refs ready

Those are the two main issues, and both sides refuse to drop those two issues

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And I don't get that mentality by the refs.  How they can think that they don't need a farm system in place for when the older guys get...well, too old. 

That slip by Ogletree should be enough to embarrass the NFL, but obviously it wasn't.  Incredible.

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And I don't get that mentality by the refs.  How they can think that they don't need a farm system in place for when the older guys get...well, too old. 

That slip by Ogletree should be enough to embarrass the NFL, but obviously it wasn't.  Incredible.


That slip was awful.

But yes, the refs, if willing to drop that request, i am sure the NFL say "we keep your pension, but the next group get 401k's like the rest of the league.

It's not that hard to settle this, both sides just need to compromise on their main issues.

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Bump.

The Vikings trounced the 49ers. So much for San Fran being the best team in the NFL. Both teams now 2-1.



Dumb ass Alex Smith strikes again.Manningham and Moss are useless on the team with him at QB.

Moss missed two easy ones today. that said, Smith wasn't the real problem today. It was the ineffectual Pass rush. They made Ponder look like Brady/Manning/*insert good QB here*.


A Vikings source explained why the team's offense was able to keep the 49ers off balance

» "We studied them a lot this offseason, and we felt that some of their players felt it was all about getting sacks," the team source said. "Then they open the season with Green Bay and Detroit, who don't do anything but throw it, and they further buy into getting sacks. We decided we were going to run at them, and they didn't like it. After awhile, we feel like we broke them.

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Another problem with the refs is that there is no respect shown towards them. Players, coaches, broadcasters -- it's open season.

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beejmi wrote: Another problem with the refs is that there is no respect shown towards them. Players, coaches, broadcasters -- it's open season.

I think that's actually the biggest problem...by far.

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DaNkinator wrote:

That slip by Ogletree should be enough to embarrass the NFL, but obviously it wasn't.  Incredible.

that could have happened with the regular refs, that's just a fluke thing, has nothing to do with them being replacements..

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beejmi wrote: Another problem with the refs is that there is no respect shown towards them. Players, coaches, broadcasters -- it's open season.
Nor should there be any respect shown to them as referees. They have about as much business throwing (or not throwing one) a flag on an NFL field as you or I do. For all the "Integrity of the Game" shit the NFL spews, they sure don't seem to care about it very much. They're a multi-billion dollar business, give these guys the money they want, which is a drop in the bucket, and be done with it. If they don't, a player is going to get hurt, and hurt really bad. The fact the NFL is even using replacement refs is a disgrace.

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beejmi wrote: I *think* what will eventually be the fake refs undoing is the length of the games. Eventually CBS will turn to the NFL and tell them they would like to air "Sixty Minutes" at a reasonable hour.

I doubt it.  I'd need to see some ratings info to make a determination on that though.  I know 60 Minutes does very well for CBS, but I imagine that the longer NFL games are still bringing in more people over a longer period of time, so that can't be a bad thing for the networks.  Some people will turn off the blow-outs, but a game like Broncos-Texans, even though it wasn't very good and dragged, was close enough with the chance of a comeback that I doubt many turned it off. 


60 Minutes gets higher ratings when football leads into it, than it does when it airs at its regular time. After 35 years, their viewers should know it's going to be on late,

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Seattle 7 Green Bay 0 early in the 3rd quarter. Green Bay in the red zone.

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Driver dropped a TD pass. Packers have to kick a field goal.

Seattle 7 Green Bay 3

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Green Bay kicks another field goal. Seattle 7 Green Bay 6.

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TD Pass to Jennings under review.

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Play reversed. Green Bay 3rd and 1 at the 1.25 yard line.

Seattle stops them from getting the first down.

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Play reversed. Green Bay first and goal at the 1 yard line.

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Packers going for a two point conversion. Incomplete pass. Green Bay 12 Seattle 7.

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Roughing the QB penalty on Green Bay negates an interception.

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Seattle driving.

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Holding on Seattle backs them up to mid field.

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Another holding penalty on Seattle. So much for their drive.

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A bad pass interference call on Green Bay gives Seattle a first down.

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Seattle in the red zone.

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Lynch gets a first down on 4th and 1.

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2:50 to go in 4th quarter

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4th and 3 with 2 minutes to go.

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Golden Tate drops a TD pass. Green Bay takes over on downs. The Seattle play calling was strange this last series.

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Seattle pass to Green Bay 24.

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3rd and 10 at the 24 with 12 seconds to go

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4th down with 8 seconds to go.

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TD ruling by the referees.

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Green Bay Intercepted the pass.

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what a complete clusterfuck of an embarrassment for the NFL that was. 

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The call on the field stands!! Green Bay got screwed.

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Chris OtL wrote: what a complete clusterfuck of an embarrassment for the NFL that was. 

They need to real refs back.

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That's why it is called home field advantage. The refs were probably scared to overturn the call since the crowd was in a frenzy.

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Tate got a really good shove into the back of one of the Packers - the guy went flying.

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What a fucking joke. Nevermind the fact the ball was picked off, the push off was so blatant it wasnt funny. This really is a joke. Good job, NFL!

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I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

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Seattle finally kicks the extra point. Seattle 14 Green Bay 12.

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LOL What a mess LOL
Glad GB lost. I am sick of Mr Discount Double Check.

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Glad GB lost.

As a Bears fan, I agree.

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The sort of people I follow on Twitter are likely to support the strikers anyway, but this seems to have just about everyone up in arms. Can't the team that got beat by a blatantly dodgy call sue the commish? I know absolutely nothing about how the NFL works.

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The sort of people I follow on Twitter are likely to support the strikers anyway, but this seems to have just about everyone up in arms. Can't the team that got beat by a blatantly dodgy call sue the commish? I know absolutely nothing about how the NFL works.


No, because their CBA makes the commish the Judge/Jury/Executioner. That's being tested because one of the Saints players suspended for issuing bounties is suing the NFL and so far the courts are not listening to the league's request to dismiss it.

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I was willing to give the replacements a chance to improve, but this week ended that feeling.  Last night alone, plus the Baltimore/New England game shows that Goodell needs to swallow his pride and get the real officials back on the field ASAP.

Its so bad now, I really do not want to watch the games for the play on the field anymore, I want to watch the games to see how badly the refs can fuck things up now, and that is not what the NFL wants.

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Married Jo wrote: DaNkinator wrote:

That slip by Ogletree should be enough to embarrass the NFL, but obviously it wasn't.  Incredible.

that could have happened with the regular refs, that's just a fluke thing, has nothing to do with them being replacements..

Uhh, except...you're wrong because the regular ref at least know not to throw the ball into the endzone and throw it down at their own feet. 

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Clay Matthews is a punk and I hope someone takes his head off next game. He didn't tweet Roger Goodell's number, he tweeted his OFFICE number. Roger isn't going to get a single call, but some poor office worker making probably $30k a year is having their day ruined because of that shaved steroid monkey...

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I really do not want to watch the games for the play on the field anymore, I want to watch the games to see how badly the refs can fuck things up now, and that is not what the NFL wants.

NO, the only thing the NFL wants is for people to watch the games, they could give a shit WHY they watch. So if you're watching, they win.

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Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out. 

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srossi wrote:
Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out. 


Unless the regular refs are ready to give in, they aren't coming back. Goodell can't do shit, it's the owners that are doing this and they aren't giving in as long as ratings are sky high and the money is rolling in.

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srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.

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beejmi wrote: srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.

Except they're getting worse.  I think there's a snowball effect now with the refs taking so much criticism and being so disrespected by everyone and getting so gun-shy that they're choking under the mounting pressure.  I think it was a really cool thing for them at first, and now I bet a lot of them just want to go home.  Football fans are nuts, to say nothing of the gamblers.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are some serious death threats soon.

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beejmi wrote:
srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.


You are correct. Why should the owners cave now? Like you said, they are eventually going to get a little better, you've got the entire viewing world pissed off yet the ratings are still sky high..the owners should just ride this out, the longer it goes, the more the regular officials will start to cave..IMO the owners would be foolish to cave now..

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Except they're getting worse. 


Overall they aren't. You get a huge blown play like last night, yes, but overall, the percentage of penalties called are about the same as last season. The only reason this is as big as it is now is the guys calling the games now are going out of their way to rip into EVERY call they do, whether it's right or not...Collinsworth was the worst Sunday, even when they got a call 100% correct he was going "Ohhhh, I don't know...I mean, this is ridiculous.." blah blah blah..

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Married Jo wrote: beejmi wrote:
srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.


You are correct. Why should the owners cave now? Like you said, they are eventually going to get a little better, you've got the entire viewing world pissed off yet the ratings are still sky high..the owners should just ride this out, the longer it goes, the more the regular officials will start to cave..IMO the owners would be foolish to cave now..
They'll cave now because the league is being completely humiliated.


Because of the LFL’s perception it is that much more critical for us to hire officiating crews that are competent, not only for the credibility of our game but to keep our athletes safer. Due to several on-field incompetent officiating we chose to part ways with with a couple crews which apparently are now officiating in the NFL. We have a lot of respect for our officials but we felt the officiating was not in line with our expectations.
We have not made public comment to date because we felt it was not our place to do so. However in light of tonight’s event, we felt it was only fair that NFL fans knew the truth as to who are officiating these games.

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They are only humiliated if the ratings and the live gate drops. Until they do, like I said, they could give a shit.

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You think this doesn't bother them? A gambling site has more integrity than the NFL does right now.





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You think this doesn't bother them?

Fuck no it doesn't bother them.

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Chris OtL wrote: You think this doesn't bother them? A gambling site has more integrity than the NFL does right now.






Wow, never thought I would see that.

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"We've refunded your wager in the form of a free play"...

So technically, they didn't refund dick..

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Anyone who thinks the NFL will see this as any kind of "breaking point" is fooling themselves. The owners have, as Steve Young pointed out after the Falcons-Broncos MNF game last week, a product with an inelastic demand curve. (Watching Stu Scott try to follow Young discussing inelasticity in demand was worth the price of admission, which is listening to Jon Gruden talk.) As such, they have no real concern about 1) the integrity of the play on the field, or 2) player safety, or 3) anything else they might jack off to the media about. They have a product that's going to sell tickets regardless. They have $3 billion guaranteed from the TV rights. They could give a flying fuck about how bad the scab refs are. Their *only* interest is in breaking the officials' union, and their only interest in that is blind, ideological hatred of unions by a bunch of billionaires living off of publicly funded stadiums and various other forms of the corporate-welfare dole.

This also speaks to the terribleness of American football fans. MLB tried to use scab players in 1995, and baseball fans simply weren't going to attend the games. The owners had to call it off. The scab games in the '80s in the NFL drew well enough on TV and in the stadiums that the Players' Union had to give in.

Football fans have only themselves to blame for all of this.

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Funny one of the issues is the owners want to fire bad refs.

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NFL STATEMENT ON FINAL PLAY
OF GREEN BAY PACKERS-SEATTLE SEAHAWKS GAME
In Monday's game between the Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks, Seattle faced a 4th-and-10 from the Green Bay 24 with eight seconds remaining in the game.
Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson threw a pass into the end zone. Several players, including Seattle wide receiver Golden Tate and Green Bay safety M.D. Jennings, jumped into the air in an attempt to catch the ball.
While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game. It was not called and is not reviewable in instant replay.
When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings had possession of the ball. Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. The result of the play was a touchdown.
Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.
Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review.
The result of the game is final.


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Fun NFL rule excerpt: "It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control."

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Once again the mighty cock of King Roger slaps across everyone's faces.

Is he worse than Bettman yet?

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He's been worse than Bettman for quite some time.

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Bettman's had three lockouts on his watch, keeps teams in money losing markets because he doesn't want to be seen as failing, and cancelled an entire season. Goodell is nowhere near as bad at Mini-Stern is.

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Goodell is the Commissioner of a major sports league.  Bettman is the Commissioner of the NHL.  I don't see how that's a fair comparison.  It's like comparing Vikram Pandit to the 8-year old who had a rough day managing her lemonade stand.  I mean neither is doing a great job but it's not really an apples to apples comparison.

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Goodell is the Commissioner of a major sports league.  Bettman is the Commissioner of the NHL.  I don't see how that's a fair comparison. 


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To be fair, the NFL is in its own category when it comes to revenues

MLB, NBA are below the NFL

Then you have the NHL

So it is hard to say which is worse, because few are on the same level

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To be fair, the NFL is in its own category when it comes to revenues

MLB, NBA are below the NFL

Then you have the NHL

So it is hard to say which is worse, because few are on the same level


True but it sounded more to me that he was comparing the NHL to the CFL or Arena Football.

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This line by Packers guard T.J. Lang has already become the third most re-tweeted in Twitter history, and is on pace to break the record:

"Fuck it NFL. Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs."

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srossi wrote: This line by Packers guard T.J. Lang has already become the third most re-tweeted in Twitter history, and is on pace to break the record:

"Fuck it NFL. Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs."

I dont know anything about twitter, but I am curious to what the top two tweets or whatever, were?

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the squared circle wrote: srossi wrote: This line by Packers guard T.J. Lang has already become the third most re-tweeted in Twitter history, and is on pace to break the record:

"Fuck it NFL. Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs."

I dont know anything about twitter, but I am curious to what the top two tweets or whatever, were?

Floyd Mayweather is 1 and Justin Bieber is 2.  I don't know what their actual tweets were though. 

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ESPN is reporting that $150 to $250 million in bets switched due to that end of game call

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8422934/seattle-seahawks-vs-green-bay-packers-disputed-mnf-call-shifted-150-250m-bets

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This is now a campaign issue as both Obama and Ryan embarrass themselves by talking about this garbage, but they both agree that it's time to get the real refs back.  I sense that Ryan doesn't actually understand what he's talking about though and just put words together to blame Obama somehow.

Obama: ''There was a real problem with that call.  It was terrible.  I've been saying for months we've got to get our refs back.  NFL fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs' lockout is settled soon.  (The replacement refs) have been put in a tough situation.  But the fact is this is a fast, tough game to control.  And it doesn't make sense to me for a league that's been so successful not to want to put their very best out there.''

Ryan: ''It reminds me of President Obama and the economy.  If you can't get it right, it's time to get out. I half think that these refs work part-time for the Obama administration in the budget office.  They're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very well.''

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I'm surprised I haven't heard this yet, but even though the Packers were screwed, their own player also screwed them.  If you EVER played defense you were told ONE THING about Hail Mary passes...  KNOCK IT DOWN, don't catch it.  There's too much of a chance the ball pops up in the air and somebody else catches it.  If Jennings hadn't been so greedy wanting the INT he may have just knocked it down.  It was obvious from the tape that it would have been easy for him to do so.

Unbelievable.  and don't get me started on all the defensive holding calls against the Pats as the Ravens made that drive with 2:00 to go.  I had heard the refs were favoring home teams more than the regular refs.  BOTH Monday and Sunday evening games proved this to be true.


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I'm surprised I haven't heard this yet, but even though the Packers were screwed, their own player also screwed them.  If you EVER played defense you were told ONE THING about Hail Mary passes...  KNOCK IT DOWN, don't catch it.  There's too much of a chance the ball pops up in the air and somebody else catches it.  If Jennings hadn't been so greedy wanting the INT he may have just knocked it down.  It was obvious from the tape that it would have been easy for him to do so.

Unbelievable.  and don't get me started on all the defensive holding calls against the Pats as the Ravens made that drive with 2:00 to go.  I had heard the refs were favoring home teams more than the regular refs.  BOTH Monday and Sunday evening games proved this to be true.




The Titans tried that earlier in the day and batted the ball right into a Lions players hands.
Green Bay should worry about how crappy they played last nite. No Offensive line and no running game. Its gonna be a long season for the Pack.

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Benlen wrote: yellowdog wrote:




The Titans tried that earlier in the day and batted the ball right into a Lions players hands.

well you can't be a dumb shit about it. 

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The "replay officials" are the regular crew by the way. Unbelievable!

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Any news on Matthew Stafford's injury?

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yellowdog wrote: Benlen wrote: yellowdog wrote:




The Titans tried that earlier in the day and batted the ball right into a Lions players hands.

well you can't be a dumb shit about it. 

And you can't control the other guys coming at you that might catch it.  Batting it down is just as dangerous as trying to intercept it.  It happened last year on the big hail mary play by the Jags on a last second play.

The "replay officials" are the regular crew by the way. Unbelievable!
Not only was the replay official a regular crew, he's also a complete fuckup.

See below from ProFootballTalk -

In nearly 11 years of this website’s existence, no game has created a stronger reaction than Monday night’s debacle in Seattle.
Coincidentally, the only other game that created similar buzz also involved the Seahawks.  It was Super Bowl XL, which left the Seahawks feeling chagrined by a string of questionable calls, prompting among other things the creation of officiating jerseys that weren’t black and white, but black and yellow.
But that game didn’t entail an error that directly and clearly determined the outcome.  Few NFL games turn on such a bright-line moment.  And one of the men involved in last night’s game had a direct hand (literally and figuratively) in a game-changing decision that involved, well, a piece of change.
Phil Luckett, the man who bungled the overtime coin toss in a Thanksgiving 1998 game between the Steelers and Lions, was the league supervisor in the replay booth for the game between the Packers and the Seahawks, according to Peter King of SI.com.  The Seahawks likewise know that name, because Luckett was the referee on the crew that incorrectly gave Jets quarterback Vinny Testaverde a game-winning touchdown against the Seahawks, not long after the Steelers-Lions morass.
As we explained several weeks ago, the NFL is using a league supervisor for every regular-season game officiated by replacements.  It’s a procedure that the league normally uses during the postseason.
The league supervisor now sits in the replay booth.  Which means that Luckett was change-purse deep in the decision to not overturn the ruling on the field of a touchdown.
As NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos explained, both during Pro Football Talk on NBC Sports Network and PFT Live on the web, the league supervisor and the replay official — neither of whom are replacements — are directly involved in the replay decisions.  It’s a procedure that doesn’t apply under normal circumstances, with the regular officials on the field and the regular referee going under the hood.
Thus, for three of the most notorious game-deciding errors in recent NFL history, Luckett was involved.  That was bad luck for the Steelers in 1998, bad luck for the Seahawks later that year, but good luck for the Seahawks on Monday night.

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/story/2012/09/25/vegas-sports-books-bet-youll-still-bet-on-nfl/57842322/1

The expert consensus is that legal wagering on NFL games is up 20-25% this season from last season, and that trend will continue as long as people believe the replacements are merely unqualified, not cheaters.

Vegas is loving this..making money hand over fist, just like the NFL owners are...

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Eventually, fans will start to tune out though.  It has to happen. 

I wonder how loud the uproar would be if this same crew from Monday was sent to the next Green Bay game 

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mike3775 wrote: Eventually, fans will start to tune out though.  It has to happen. 

I wonder how loud the uproar would be if this same crew from Monday was sent to the next Green Bay game 

I'm not sure of that.  There's talk that ratings will actually increase with all of this, due to folks that don't always watch, doing so just to see how bad it really gets.

On a bright note, talks are going well.  PFT just reported that the NFL and the Refs have agreed to terms for replacement refs/training going forward.  The only other sticking point now is the issue with a pension vs. 401K plan.  Mostly, for retired officials.

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mike3775 wrote:
Eventually, fans will start to tune out though.  It has to happen. 

No it doesn't. It won't happen. I bet ratings not only hold steady but are UP this season when it's all said and done.

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I can't believe a respected outfit like PFT is clinging to the "Luckett botched the coin toss" horseshit story. Jerome Bettis fucked up, not Luckett.

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srossi wrote: This is now a campaign issue as both Obama and Ryan embarrass themselves by talking about this garbage, but they both agree that it's time to get the real refs back.

Obama: ''There was a real problem with that call.  It was terrible.  I've been saying for months we've got to get our refs back.  NFL fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs' lockout is settled soon.  (The replacement refs) have been put in a tough situation.  But the fact is this is a fast, tough game to control.  And it doesn't make sense to me for a league that's been so successful not to want to put their very best out there.''



Obama needs Wisconsin.

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Rumors everywhere the old refs might be back by the weekend.

Found this on FB. It's pretty funny.  

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beejmi wrote:


I saw one just like this with JaMarcus Russell. :D

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Real refs starting tonight  :)

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LOL, those 'memes' (or whatever they are called) are funny - love the 3 stooges one

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mike3775 wrote: Real refs starting tonight  :)

Not at all surprised.  Anyone who thought the NFL wasn't feeling the pressure after that call in particular is kidding themselves.  The NFL takes themselves way too seriously to be okay with being laughed at, no matter how much money they're making.  What they paid is a drop in the bucket to restore some integrity and goodwill.

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srossi wrote:
mike3775 wrote: Real refs starting tonight  :)

Not at all surprised.  Anyone who thought the NFL wasn't feeling the pressure after that call in particular is kidding themselves.  The NFL takes themselves way too seriously to be okay with being laughed at, no matter how much money they're making.  What they paid is a drop in the bucket to restore some integrity and goodwill.


Funny thing is, both sides conceded to each other, which should have happened before the season started.



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