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 Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2012 08:18 pm
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mike3775 wrote: Benlen wrote: Since he is facing KC's pitching staff I say yeswell shit, I think he may do it then.

It will be interesting to see who gets the MVP award though, as the triple crown is a big deal, but overall I think Trout is better, but he will also get the Rookie of the year award

If I had a vote, I'd go with Trout... he seems to be faster and a better fielder IMO
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Trout: Ron Kittle/ Bj Surhoff/Kevin Seitzer/etc.

I'd go w/ Cabrera & if they win the Central, he'll almost certainly win iy imo, as he's been a major reason why. Plus, guys a consistant .300 hitter. Jurys still out in Trout, great year, but not triple crown year, sorry.


How in the blue Hell is the jury still out on Him. Oh yeah, He's still only 21 yrs old. He will probably win a Gold Glove also. Jury is still out on Trout? I know that You are a Fucking Moron, but lets get real. Here are His stats.

Games 136 Avg .321 Hits 175 Runs 127 HR 30 RBI's 80 SB 48



Thank you for your opinion, I know you're a fucking moron as well. You also had issues w/Verlander winning the MVP too. Of course you would, you're a fucking moron. Imo, a rookie wont win it. Of course you're a moron & you don't realize that.....but, not surprising considering the source. Maybe you should stick to talking about hockey.

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stingmark wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:
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Trout: Ron Kittle/ Bj Surhoff/Kevin Seitzer/etc.

I'd go w/ Cabrera & if they win the Central, he'll almost certainly win iy imo, as he's been a major reason why. Plus, guys a consistant .300 hitter. Jurys still out in Trout, great year, but not triple crown year, sorry.


Are you apologizing for your blatant homerism ???? And why the hell did you throw BJ Surhoff into your argument ???? Do you realize that he averaged a little over 5.5 HRs and 61.25 RBIs his first 7 full seasons ????


I brought Surhoff/Seitzer & others into it because they were 1 yr wonders more or less. So far, Trout is that way. His stats arent there, my opinion, it differs from yours, thats how difference of opinions works.

A 30/30 guy who wasn't brought up until the last week of April, who's batting .320 and has a .950 OPS, and his stats aren't there?  Seriously?

What would satisfy you, a 100/100 guy?  200/200? 

This is why people rank on you.



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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
stingmark wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:
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Trout: Ron Kittle/ Bj Surhoff/Kevin Seitzer/etc.

I'd go w/ Cabrera & if they win the Central, he'll almost certainly win iy imo, as he's been a major reason why. Plus, guys a consistant .300 hitter. Jurys still out in Trout, great year, but not triple crown year, sorry.


Are you apologizing for your blatant homerism ???? And why the hell did you throw BJ Surhoff into your argument ???? Do you realize that he averaged a little over 5.5 HRs and 61.25 RBIs his first 7 full seasons ????


I brought Surhoff/Seitzer & others into it because they were 1 yr wonders more or less. So far, Trout is that way. His stats arent there, my opinion, it differs from yours, thats how difference of opinions works.

A 30/30 guy who wasn't brought up until the last week of April, who's batting .320 and has a .950 OPS, and his stats aren't there?  Seriously?

What would satisfy you, a 100/100 guy?  200/200? 

This is why people rank on you.


You have such issues with my opinion, I dont think he wins it. He had a great year, he wont win it, get over it.
It helps Cabrera if the Tigers win the div & get to the playoffs, he'll be seens the guy who was a catalyst for that. How his team does also plays a role I think in the voting.

I dont give 5 fucks if people rank on me.......

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stingmark wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
stingmark wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:
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Trout: Ron Kittle/ Bj Surhoff/Kevin Seitzer/etc.

I'd go w/ Cabrera & if they win the Central, he'll almost certainly win iy imo, as he's been a major reason why. Plus, guys a consistant .300 hitter. Jurys still out in Trout, great year, but not triple crown year, sorry.


Are you apologizing for your blatant homerism ???? And why the hell did you throw BJ Surhoff into your argument ???? Do you realize that he averaged a little over 5.5 HRs and 61.25 RBIs his first 7 full seasons ????


I brought Surhoff/Seitzer & others into it because they were 1 yr wonders more or less. So far, Trout is that way. His stats arent there, my opinion, it differs from yours, thats how difference of opinions works.

A 30/30 guy who wasn't brought up until the last week of April, who's batting .320 and has a .950 OPS, and his stats aren't there?  Seriously?

What would satisfy you, a 100/100 guy?  200/200? 

This is why people rank on you.


You have such issues with my opinion, I dont think he wins it. He had a great year, he wont win it, get over it.

I dont give 5 fucks if oeople rank on me.......

The irony is, I agree with you...if Cabrera wins the Triple Crown, I say you have to give it to him regardless.  Even if he doesn't win it, I'd probably still give it to him.  He's had a fabulous year.  But to say Trout's stats aren't there is ridiculous.



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The tigers though play in the worst division in baseball. How can you not win a division that has only 2 teams over 71 wins.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
stingmark wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
stingmark wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:
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Trout: Ron Kittle/ Bj Surhoff/Kevin Seitzer/etc.

I'd go w/ Cabrera & if they win the Central, he'll almost certainly win iy imo, as he's been a major reason why. Plus, guys a consistant .300 hitter. Jurys still out in Trout, great year, but not triple crown year, sorry.


Are you apologizing for your blatant homerism ???? And why the hell did you throw BJ Surhoff into your argument ???? Do you realize that he averaged a little over 5.5 HRs and 61.25 RBIs his first 7 full seasons ????


I brought Surhoff/Seitzer & others into it because they were 1 yr wonders more or less. So far, Trout is that way. His stats arent there, my opinion, it differs from yours, thats how difference of opinions works.

A 30/30 guy who wasn't brought up until the last week of April, who's batting .320 and has a .950 OPS, and his stats aren't there?  Seriously?

What would satisfy you, a 100/100 guy?  200/200? 

This is why people rank on you.


You have such issues with my opinion, I dont think he wins it. He had a great year, he wont win it, get over it.

I dont give 5 fucks if oeople rank on me.......

The irony is, I agree with you...if Cabrera wins the Triple Crown, I say you have to give it to him regardless.  Even if he doesn't win it, I'd probably still give it to him.  He's had a fabulous year.  But to say Trout's stats aren't there is ridiculous.



Never said he had a shit year, I said I didnt think he would win it. He's had a great year, but not as great as Cabrera.......of course that's just my opinion & because it is(& it doesnt fall in line w/ what your opinions are), people seem to dislike that. Question was asked who we thought would win the TC. I gave my answer, it wasn't liked(what else is new). Cabrera playing for the Tigs has nothing to do with it, he has the numbers, up to whoever to decide.

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You're only look at Offence though. Trout's a gold glover, Cabrera might be the worst 3b in MLB. So Offensively Cabrera has a slight advantage. On the basepaths, Trout has a massive advantage. Defensively Trout has a massive advantage. It's a close call.

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stingmark wrote:
dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
stingmark wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
stingmark wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:
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Trout: Ron Kittle/ Bj Surhoff/Kevin Seitzer/etc.

I'd go w/ Cabrera & if they win the Central, he'll almost certainly win iy imo, as he's been a major reason why. Plus, guys a consistant .300 hitter. Jurys still out in Trout, great year, but not triple crown year, sorry.


Are you apologizing for your blatant homerism ???? And why the hell did you throw BJ Surhoff into your argument ???? Do you realize that he averaged a little over 5.5 HRs and 61.25 RBIs his first 7 full seasons ????


I brought Surhoff/Seitzer & others into it because they were 1 yr wonders more or less. So far, Trout is that way. His stats arent there, my opinion, it differs from yours, thats how difference of opinions works.

A 30/30 guy who wasn't brought up until the last week of April, who's batting .320 and has a .950 OPS, and his stats aren't there?  Seriously?

What would satisfy you, a 100/100 guy?  200/200? 

This is why people rank on you.


You have such issues with my opinion, I dont think he wins it. He had a great year, he wont win it, get over it.

I dont give 5 fucks if oeople rank on me.......

The irony is, I agree with you...if Cabrera wins the Triple Crown, I say you have to give it to him regardless.  Even if he doesn't win it, I'd probably still give it to him.  He's had a fabulous year.  But to say Trout's stats aren't there is ridiculous.



Never said he had a shit year, I said I didnt think he would win it. He's had a great year, but not as great as Cabrera.......of course that's just my opinion & because it is(& it doesnt fall in line w/ what your opinions are), people seem to dislike that. Question was asked who we thought would win the TC. I gave my answer, it wasn't liked(what else is new). Cabrera playing for the Tigs has nothing to do with it, he has the numbers, up to whoever to decide.


Yes You did, You said that the jury was still out on Trout. Don't back track now when People call You out on Your retardedness. You really need to look back at what You wrote when You answer somebody on a comment on one of Your previous posts. I still stand by the fact that a Pitcher should not win the MVP, Verlander or anyone else. That's why Pitchers have the CY Young award.



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Principal_Raditch wrote: You're only look at Offence though. Trout's a gold glover, Cabrera might be the worst 3b in MLB. So Offensively Cabrera has a slight advantage. On the basepaths, Trout has a massive advantage. Defensively Trout has a massive advantage. It's a close call.

Do any of the voters really look at defense, though?



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khawk wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: You're only look at Offence though. Trout's a gold glover, Cabrera might be the worst 3b in MLB. So Offensively Cabrera has a slight advantage. On the basepaths, Trout has a massive advantage. Defensively Trout has a massive advantage. It's a close call.

Do any of the voters really look at defense, though?

Sure, some do.  Barry Larkin won the MVP in 1995 based almost solely on defense and stolen bases, and Trout is having a much better year with defense and speed just as good.  It doesn't happen often, but it happens.



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khawk wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: You're only look at Offence though. Trout's a gold glover, Cabrera might be the worst 3b in MLB. So Offensively Cabrera has a slight advantage. On the basepaths, Trout has a massive advantage. Defensively Trout has a massive advantage. It's a close call.

Do any of the voters really look at defense, though?

Sure, some do.  Barry Larkin won the MVP in 1995 based almost solely on defense and stolen bases, and Trout is having a much better year with defense and speed just as good.  It doesn't happen often, but it happens.


Larkin won but the Reds also finished in first.



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Cabrera homered tonight.



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srossi wrote: khawk wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: You're only look at Offence though. Trout's a gold glover, Cabrera might be the worst 3b in MLB. So Offensively Cabrera has a slight advantage. On the basepaths, Trout has a massive advantage. Defensively Trout has a massive advantage. It's a close call.

Do any of the voters really look at defense, though?

Sure, some do.  Barry Larkin won the MVP in 1995 based almost solely on defense and stolen bases, and Trout is having a much better year with defense and speed just as good.  It doesn't happen often, but it happens.


Also Jimmy Rollins in 2007 when Matt Holliday and Prince Fielder had much better power numbers.

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Mike Trout 4 for 4 tonight.



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clawmaster wrote: Mike Trout 4 for 4 tonight.
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