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Two part question. The NFL regular season ends late Sunday Night December 30, 2012. Do NFL teams start firing head coaches immediately after Sunday's game?

Which head coach gets fired first?


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Nobody fires on Sunday. It is "just hours" after the game. Looks bad.

Monday however because there is a holiday involved and less press members around presents the opportunity to mix in the "news" [firing] with other things going on so that it gets downplayed a bit. Won't even be many "press conferences" just press releases by the teams trying to downplay and stay under the radar.


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Is Fat Andy going to get fired?

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Yes, Reid will be fired. Turned fired as well. Both on Monday. Several more shortly thereafter.

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First Firing's will be Crennel and Pioli here in KC. Then that fuckup Clack Hunt will probably go and hire Andy Reid.

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Reid and Turner will most likely be allowed to resign to save some face. If they choose not to resign, they get fired by Wednesday at the latest.

If Crennel goes, he gets fired. Same with Chan Gailey or Rex Ryan.

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I think Whisenhunt gets canned too.  I hear some say Garrett is gone in Big D but I only see that going down if Sean Payton bails on the Saints and Jerry Jones can get him. 

On Romeo and Pioli, honestly I think they get one more year to try and turn it around.  I know some are calling for their heads, just the vibe I am getting is that they stay.

I hear Pat Shurmur is a lock to be gone from Cleveland.  New owner will want his people in place to see his vision through and Pat was a Holmgren hire.


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Oh and for the record it is time for Lovie Smith to get the axe. 

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Chan Gailey will be fired

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Road Warrior Yajuta wrote:
Oh and for the record it is time for Lovie Smith to get the axe. 


It was at that point 3 yrs ago

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For Lovie to stay, The Bears would have to win two playoff games on the road and lose in the NFC Title game. 

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Anyone hiring Andy is making a mistake. If he takes a year off and then takes a job, that might be okay. He's still trying to recreate the 1999 Rams.

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Oh and I think Reid might just resign. I believe he has a backroom deal where he will come out and "resign" and still collect his 5 million for next year. Basically he saves face and the team gets to move on.

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Yes, Reid will be fired. Turned fired as well. Both on Monday. Several more shortly thereafter.

Agreed on this.

AJ Smith will be fired along with Turner. Crennel and Pioli and Mike Tannenbaum of the Jets will be within days, followed by Chan Gailey, Andy Reid, Pat Shermur, Ken Wisenhunt, and Mike Munchak.

Mike Mularkey sucks and has a shot to be waxed. Jason Garrett might lose it if Jerry can get a bigger name, and Jim Schwartz is stupid enough to be fired but needs another bad year to do so.

I'd never bet against Lovie because he survives everything in that town.

Ron Rivera will be waxed the minute the new Panthers GM is hired.

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Forgot about Schurmur in Cleveland. I think he's got that team improving, but the new owner wants a new coach, and it's rumoured to be Nick Saban.

Chan Gailey might stick around because Ralph Wilson is too cheap to pay for two head coaches next season.

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Yes, Reid will be fired. Turned fired as well. Both on Monday. Several more shortly thereafter.

Agreed on this.

AJ Smith will be fired along with Turner. Crennel and Pioli and Mike Tannenbaum of the Jets will be within days, followed by Chan Gailey, Andy Reid, Pat Shermur, Ken Wisenhunt, and Mike Munchak.

Mike Mularkey sucks and has a shot to be waxed. Jason Garrett might lose it if Jerry can get a bigger name, and Jim Schwartz is stupid enough to be fired but needs another bad year to do so.

I'd never bet against Lovie because he survives everything in that town.

Ron Rivera will be waxed the minute the new Panthers GM is hired.


Schwartz is a tough call. The Lions don't have much talent. They have some studs on D, but they have guys in their starting line up that really don't belong in the NFL except maybe on special teams. He took a shitty team 0-16 and gave them an identity. They put together a good season last year, but they still have a bunch of shitty players.

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http://www.wwltv.com/news/Report-Saints--185107341.html

Payton is off the market

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So far we have the following...

- Jags fired GM Gene Smith

- Jets fire GM Mike Tenebaum

- Chiefs fire Rome Crennel

- Browns fire Pat Shurmur and Tom Hackett


The following are rumored to be fired today -

- Andy Ried, Eagles

- Norv Turner, Chargers

- Greg Knapp, OC of Raiders

- Tony Sparano, OC Jets

- Ken Wisenhunt, Cardinals

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DaNkinator wrote: So far we have the following...

- Jags fired GM Gene Smith

- Jets fire GM Mike Tenebaum

- Chiefs fire Rome Crennel

- Browns fire Pat Shurmur and Tom Hackett


The following are rumored to be fired today -

- Andy Ried, Eagles

- Norv Turner, Chargers

- Greg Knapp, OC of Raiders

- Tony Sparano, OC Jets

- Ken Wisenhunt, Cardinals


 

 

Andy Reid has been fired.

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We've heard that Scott Pioli here wont be getting shitcanned. I guess Clark Hunt wants even less people showing up to games next year.

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The Buffalo Bills have dismissed head coach Chan Gailey after missing the playoffs for the 13th consecutive season.

Buffalo's postseason drought is the NFL's longest active streak and came despite the high-profile offseason addition of defensive lineman Mario Williams with a six-year, $100 million free-agent contract.



And the team also finished with a losing record for an eighth straight season.

Buffalo was 16-32 after Gailey took over in 2010.

The 60-year-old Gailey, who also has coached the Cowboys, has a 34-46 career record.

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Wait til Thurston hears about this.

 

 

The Chicago Bears fired coach Lovie Smith on Monday, NFL.com is reporting.
The Bears missed the playoffs for the fifth time in the last six seasons despite starting this season 7-1.

The Bears finished 10-6 but were denied a playoff spot when the Vikings beat the Packers on Sunday.

The 54-year-old Smith, who led the Bears to the Super Bowl after the 2006 season, was 81-63 over eight regular seasons and was 3-3 in the playoffs.

Smith was under contract through 2013, and new general manager Phil Emery did not engage the coach in contract talks on an extension during the season.

Smith was particularly criticized for Chicago's inability to beat Green Bay. The Bears have lost eight of their last nine against the Packers and six straight.

The other big issue was the Bears' poor finishes under Smith. Chicago lost seven straight December games since 2010 before snapping its skid with a Week 16 victory over the Cardinals. During Smith's nine seasons, the Bears were 17-19 in December.

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Wait til Thurston hears about this.


:D:D:D

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Principal_Raditch wrote: We've heard that Scott Pioli here wont be getting shitcanned. I guess Clark Hunt wants even less people showing up to games next year.

Adam Schefter is reporting that his fate depends on who they hire as the new HC.  Same is being said for Mularkey in Jax.

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Think Norv is oficially out

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Lovie got a raw deal. 10-6 with all 6 losses being against playoff teams.

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beejmi wrote: Lovie got a raw deal. 10-6 with all 6 losses being against playoff teams.

However, he was 7-1, and shit the bed 2nd half of the season.

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Chrisstlouis wrote: Think Norv is oficially out
Oh shit. I don't have him in the pool :(

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Although the Chargers haven’t formally announced that Norv Turner is fired, everyone in San Diego knows that decision has already been made and is just being announced later in the day because the Chargers are on Pacific time.

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I think with Norv they are going to have a public stoning also

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beejmi wrote: Lovie got a raw deal. 10-6 with all 6 losses being against playoff teams.

Is that a joke?  He's missed the playoffs in 5 of the last 6 seasons.  Chicago fans and writers have been begging for him to be fired for at least the last 3 seasons.

Cardinals fired both Ken Wisenhunt and GM Rod Graves. 

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Chicago fans and writers have been begging for him to be fired for at least the last 3 seasons.

So what. The media decides? The fans decide?

I don't have time to look it up completely but since they were in the playoffs in 2005 and in the Super Bowl in 2006 and in the playoffs last year that "5 out of 6 years out of the playoffs" can't possibly be right. 4 out of 6 or 7 is possible but 5 out of 6 is back-fitting the stats and isn't accurate.

Cutler fries another coach.

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Cutler is the problem in Chicago.   Always has and always will be a bad egg unless he has an attitude adjustment.

I do not have all the details on Lovie's tenure, so I cannot support his getting canned or if he is being used as the sacrificial lamb for other problems.

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I dont see firing a 10-6 coach

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Chicago fans and writers have been begging for him to be fired for at least the last 3 seasons.

So what. The media decides? The fans decide?

I don't have time to look it up completely but since they were in the playoffs in 2005 and in the Super Bowl in 2006 and in the playoffs last year that "5 out of 6 years out of the playoffs" can't possibly be right. 4 out of 6 or 7 is possible but 5 out of 6 is back-fitting the stats and isn't accurate.

Cutler fries another coach.


Fuck Lovie. The fucker should have been shitcanned 3 yrs ago when they choked the first time. Then to be allowed to do it three more times?

Chicago fans are not stupid like Philly fans who think just getting to the playoffs is good enough, we want a fucking winner, not some piece of shit who gets to the playoffs then loses all the fucking time. He got the team to the Superbowl in 05, after that, he has been very inconsistent, and was even told LAST OFFSEASON that they better do better this year, yet they stunk up the joint yet again, after starting strong

I am loving the fact that piece of shit is out of a job today, to bad it didn't happen sooner

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Chicago fans are not stupid like Philly fans who think just getting to the playoffs is good enough, we want a fucking winner, not some piece of shit who gets to the playoffs then loses all the fucking time.

Whatever. Cubs. Eat it.

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It doesn't help that Lovie was 1-8 against The Packers in their last nine.

Also the GM is in his first year and was probably looking to get his own man in the first chance he got.

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Chicago fans are not stupid like Philly fans who think just getting to the playoffs is good enough, we want a fucking winner, not some piece of shit who gets to the playoffs then loses all the fucking time.

Whatever. Cubs. Eat it.


White Sox are my team, not the Cubs, sorry to disappoint

And even die hard Cubs fans have criticized ownership for the piss poor Cubs teams.



 

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SD fires Norv, KC fired Romeo, what's Oakland's coach thinking right now?  Is there a sense of relief there?

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beejmi wrote: Chicago fans and writers have been begging for him to be fired for at least the last 3 seasons.

So what. The media decides? The fans decide?

I don't have time to look it up completely but since they were in the playoffs in 2005 and in the Super Bowl in 2006 and in the playoffs last year that "5 out of 6 years out of the playoffs" can't possibly be right. 4 out of 6 or 7 is possible but 5 out of 6 is back-fitting the stats and isn't accurate.

Cutler fries another coach.

Except, you're wrong.  They haven't been to the playoffs other than two seasons ago, since that Super Bowl.   That's one time out of six seasons.  I'm not backfitting, I'm just showing factual evidence.

Cutler is the problem in Chicago. Always has and always will be a bad egg unless he has an attitude adjustment.

I do not have all the details on Lovie's tenure, so I cannot support his getting canned or if he is being used as the sacrificial lamb for other problems.

Wow.  I'm the last person to ever defend Cutler as a person or his attitude, but he's one of the two best players they have on their team.  Sure, he pussied out two years ago, but considering the o-line that he's had to endure his entire tenure there, he's done great. 

Lovie hasn't done shit adapt to his problems.

Here is the comment by buddy Mike had to say about this and from what I can tell, mirrors pretty much all Bears fans -

FINALLY!! Lovie Smith is gone from Chicago. Arrogant and clueless is never a good combo. I'm willing to drive the moving van just to get him out of town faster.

The sad part is, dumping Lovie Smith may be a year or 2 too late. A great defense is getting old fast. New coach will have to fix the offense fast to give the Bears a shot at winning. A whole new OLine is needed plus a TE that can catch. Dump Urlacher and Hester for more salary cap room.


9 years without winning is just too long. Maybe he would get a pass if he made the playoffs more often.

Lovie is clueless when it comes to offense, and replacing the OC again just wasn't gonna fix anything.

He's an idiot. He started bashing his own D for not scoring enough points. He's too loyal to mediocre players. Certain players are allowed to run their mouths to the media while others get benched for doing the same thing.  After the texans game, Lovie was blaming the defense for not stopping Foster.

His offense was horrendous and couldn't do squat, but he blamed his defense when they held the texans to 217 yards. Hell, the bears out gained them in that game, and he blamed the defense.

glad that he's gone. tice as an OC...what a fucking joke.

I'm not even sure who I'd like as the new Bears' coach. Not even sure who the "hot" candidates are. I'm just happy Bears fans will be getting something different next season.

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DaNkinator wrote: beejmi wrote: Chicago fans and writers have been begging for him to be fired for at least the last 3 seasons.

So what. The media decides? The fans decide?

I don't have time to look it up completely but since they were in the playoffs in 2005 and in the Super Bowl in 2006 and in the playoffs last year that "5 out of 6 years out of the playoffs" can't possibly be right. 4 out of 6 or 7 is possible but 5 out of 6 is back-fitting the stats and isn't accurate.

Cutler fries another coach.

Except, you're wrong.  They haven't been to the playoffs other than two seasons ago, since that Super Bowl.   That's one time out of six seasons.  I'm not backfitting, I'm just showing factual evidence.

Cutler is the problem in Chicago. Always has and always will be a bad egg unless he has an attitude adjustment.

I do not have all the details on Lovie's tenure, so I cannot support his getting canned or if he is being used as the sacrificial lamb for other problems.

Wow.  I'm the last person to ever defend Cutler as a person or his attitude, but he's one of the two best players they have on their team.  Sure, he pussied out two years ago, but considering the o-line that he's had to endure his entire tenure there, he's done great. 

Lovie hasn't done shit adapt to his problems.

Here is the comment by buddy Mike had to say about this and from what I can tell, mirrors pretty much all Bears fans -

FINALLY!! Lovie Smith is gone from Chicago. Arrogant and clueless is never a good combo. I'm willing to drive the moving van just to get him out of town faster.

The sad part is, dumping Lovie Smith may be a year or 2 too late. A great defense is getting old fast. New coach will have to fix the offense fast to give the Bears a shot at winning. A whole new OLine is needed plus a TE that can catch. Dump Urlacher and Hester for more salary cap room.


9 years without winning is just too long. Maybe he would get a pass if he made the playoffs more often.

Lovie is clueless when it comes to offense, and replacing the OC again just wasn't gonna fix anything.

He's an idiot. He started bashing his own D for not scoring enough points. He's too loyal to mediocre players. Certain players are allowed to run their mouths to the media while others get benched for doing the same thing.  After the texans game, Lovie was blaming the defense for not stopping Foster.

His offense was horrendous and couldn't do squat, but he blamed his defense when they held the texans to 217 yards. Hell, the bears out gained them in that game, and he blamed the defense.

glad that he's gone. tice as an OC...what a fucking joke.

I'm not even sure who I'd like as the new Bears' coach. Not even sure who the "hot" candidates are. I'm just happy Bears fans will be getting something different next season.



I am not saying that Lovie did not deserve to go, but whomever is selected as the next head coach, they will have to deal with the overblown ego of a mediocre quarterback. 

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Ok. Time to look it up. Dank is right. 5 out of 6 years.  Had no clue Lovie was there 9 years. Makes the playoffs 3 times, misses 6 times.

Then there's a hundred variables. How much of that was with Rex Grossman at QB. Would have made the post season this year and last if not for Cutler getting hurt.

The 3-5 second half hurt obviously. All 6 losses were to playoff teams.

Unless they have someone "better" lined up, it is "change for the sake of change".

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beejmi wrote: Ok. Time to look it up. Dank is right. 5 out of 6 years.  Had no clue Lovie was there 9 years. Makes the playoffs 3 times, misses 6 times.

Then there's a hundred variables. How much of that was with Rex Grossman at QB. Would have made the post season this year and last if not for Cutler getting hurt.

The 3-5 second half hurt obviously. All 6 losses were to playoff teams.

Unless they have someone "better" lined up, it is "change for the sake of change".
Change was needed in Chicago.  9 yrs and only 1 Superbowl appearance despite putting together teams that should have competed and made the playoffs yearly.  Doesn't that sound familiar Beej?

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beejmi wrote: Ok. Time to look it up. Dank is right. 5 out of 6 years.  Had no clue Lovie was there 9 years. Makes the playoffs 3 times, misses 6 times.

Then there's a hundred variables. How much of that was with Rex Grossman at QB. Would have made the post season this year and last if not for Cutler getting hurt.

The 3-5 second half hurt obviously. All 6 losses were to playoff teams.

Unless they have someone "better" lined up, it is "change for the sake of change".


How much of that is having Cutler at QB is another question? 

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Reid is supposedly the front-runner for the Cards.

Arians going to Sand Diego is being spoken about. 

Whisenhunt wants to interview for Sand Diego job.

The offensive coordinator for Broncos is getting lots of looks.

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Reid is supposedly the front-runner for the Cards.

Because San Diego was flatout not interested in Reid

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SD fires Norv, KC fired Romeo, what's Oakland's coach thinking right now?  Is there a sense of relief there?

Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie aren't happy with Dennis Allen. During the season they both said the team looked like it was regressing.

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Reid is supposedly the front-runner for the Cards.

Because San Diego was flatout not interested in Reid


How about Steve Mariucci for SD??

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Reid is supposedly the front-runner for the Cards.


Can Reid take another yr of shitty QB play?

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Philly responds to Reid's firing by having a parade today



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Mike Ditka is pissed that Lovie got fired. That one seems to be the one that people are getting upset over.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/01/01/mike-ditka-bears-lovie-smith-fired/1802589/?csp=fbfanpage

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beejmi wrote: Mike Ditka is pissed that Lovie got fired. That one seems to be the one that people are getting upset over.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/01/01/mike-ditka-bears-lovie-smith-fired/1802589/?csp=fbfanpage

Fuck Ditka!!

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clawmaster wrote: beejmi wrote: Mike Ditka is pissed that Lovie got fired. That one seems to be the one that people are getting upset over.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/01/01/mike-ditka-bears-lovie-smith-fired/1802589/?csp=fbfanpage

Fuck Ditka!!
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Lovie needed to go.  If they had made the playoffs this year, he may have been given one more year, but I doubt he would have been givin a multi-yr contract

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LAKE FOREST, Ill. (AP) -- The Chicago Bears had too many playoff misses and too many problems on offense. That's why general manager Phil Emery fired coach Lovie Smith.
The Bears let Smith go Monday even though they won 10 games.
Missing the playoffs for the fifth time in six years and the inability to fix the offense were simply too much to overlook, so they cut ties with their coach after a nine-year run that included three division titles, two NFC championship game appearances and a trip to the Super Bowl.
"Our No. 1 goal has to be to win championships and to win championships we must be in contention on a consistent basis," Emery said. "And to be in contention, we have to be in the playoffs on a consistent basis. Five out of the last six years, we have not been there. We have fallen short."
He pointed out that while the Bears consistently boasted an effective defense under Smith with stars such as Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs and later Julius Peppers, they never could get it right on offense. Smith had four offensive coordinators during his tenure. The Bears made big trades for quarterback Jay Cutler and receiver Brandon Marshall, but they continued to struggle through the years whether it was because of poor play-calling, poor execution or poor blocking.
Either way, the team is moving on. Emery had discussions with chairman George McCaskey and president Ted Phillips, but ultimately, the decision to change coaches was his.
Now, the search is on.
Emery said Tuesday he'll be interviewing potential replacements over the next two weeks and would like to have one in place by the college All-Star games later this month. A person familiar with the situation told the Associated Press they will interview Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy this week. Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan and Atlanta Falcons special teams coach Keith Armstrong are also expected to interview, according to reports.
Emery wouldn't rule out candidates with defensive backgrounds or college coaches. He was also asked if special teams coordinator Dave Toub is in the running.
"No one's been excluded," Emery said. "We have some excellent coaches on our staff and I'm not excluding anybody."
He also said he has no preference for a 4-3 or 3-4 defense, but added the personnel is geared for a 4-3.
The coaching search isn't the only big issue facing the Bears at the moment.
Urlacher has an expiring contract and could be gone after being limited by injuries this season. He was slowed by a knee issue and missed the final four games because of a hamstring problem. Emery was noncommittal about the eight-time Pro Bowl player's future.
Then, there's Cutler. Are the Bears convinced he is the long-term solution for them at quarterback?
He has one year left on his contract, and although Emery talked about building around him, he also said " That answer is going to come as we move forward with a new head coach.
"Am I convinced that Jay has the talent to be that? Yes, I am.," Emery said. "I'll say the same thing that I said this summer: I see Jay as a franchise quarterback. We've got to build around him. That's been the goal from the beginning, to build around Jay and to build our team toward championships."
For now, Emery is focused on finding a coach.
He replaced the fired Jerry Angelo after last season with the mandate that he keep Smith for at least this year. With lofty expectations, the Bears won seven of their first eight games before everything crumbled. Yet, Emery insisted having to work with the coach for a year didn't set him back in executing his long-term plan.

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I assume the Bears will be looking for an offensive minded HC. Whose the OC now? Shouldn't he get fired too?

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Benlen wrote: I assume the Bears will be looking for an offensive minded HC. Whose the OC now? Shouldn't he get fired too?
Mike Tice is the current OC. He's on my fired coaches list for 2013. Tice will get canned when the Bears name a new head coach.

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Reid talking to KC today. The worst two open jobs in the league (Arizona and KC)

Bears players now openly upset about the Lovie Smith firing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/bears-return-man-devin-hester-pondering-retirement-lovie-204613266--nfl.html

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beejmi wrote: Reid talking to KC today. The worst two open jobs in the league (Arizona and KC)

Bears players now openly upset about the Lovie Smith firing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/bears-return-man-devin-hester-pondering-retirement-lovie-204613266--nfl.html

If Zona & KC are the 2 worse open jobs, the Buffalo is the 3rd. A truly
wretched, horrible team.

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lobo316 wrote: beejmi wrote: Reid talking to KC today. The worst two open jobs in the league (Arizona and KC)

Bears players now openly upset about the Lovie Smith firing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/bears-return-man-devin-hester-pondering-retirement-lovie-204613266--nfl.html

If Zona & KC are the 2 worse open jobs, the Buffalo is the 3rd. A truly
wretched, horrible team.
KC and Arizona have some really good talent though.  I feel worse for anyone going to Cleveland.

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KC, Arizona, Buffalo and Cleveland = bad jobs


Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.

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Cleveland has a decent defense.

That pick of QB Brandon Weeden in the First Round was just ridiculous.  This screwed the offense up for any future head coach. 

I do not think Cleveland is as bad off as some think.  The offense needs overhauled starting with Weeden unless some new coach can make him somewhat successful.   Richardson should give them a decent running game, but they need to vastly improve the passing offense and you need a good QB to do that.

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KC, Arizona, Buffalo and Cleveland = bad jobs


Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.

Are you saying Nick Foles is the future for the Eagles?

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Surprising.

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KC, Arizona, Buffalo and Cleveland = bad jobs


Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.

Are you saying Nick Foles is the future for the Eagles?
doesnt he get a chance?

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Chrisstlouis wrote:
Benlen wrote:
beejmi wrote:
KC, Arizona, Buffalo and Cleveland = bad jobs


Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.

Are you saying Nick Foles is the future for the Eagles?
doesnt he get a chance?


How long of a chance are you gonna give him? 1 full season? two? three?

Playing 5 or 6 games last season doesn't make him "good".
I am sure he showed flashes and that may give him the heads up on starting but I wouldn't say the Eagles have their QB in place.

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Benlen wrote: beejmi wrote:
KC, Arizona, Buffalo and Cleveland = bad jobs


Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.

Are you saying Nick Foles is the future for the Eagles?

him and Kevin Kolb

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Papa Voo wrote: clawmaster wrote: Ron Rivera has not officially been whacked in Carolina.

Surprising.

I didn't look to be certain, but I think they went 6-1 to end the season and beat some good teams too

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Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.


I disagree.
KC has a lot of talent-5 pro bowlers this year, it was just awful coaching and a terrible QB. If you can get a QB, it's a very good gig.
AZ-terrible O line and no QB but the best WR in football (IMO) and a very good D. Not bad.
Buffalo-fairly talented but missing a QB.
Cleveland-good young nucleus, but I would think the owner will have a short leash with anybody (2 years of rebuilding and that's it).
San Diego has Rivers but that D is awful, the OL sucks, the RB's are terrible. Plus Rivers looked terrible.
Philly has talent but they are a mess. Plus I'd hate to have to deal with the fans. Sorry.
Carolina-Accorsi will find a real GM who will hopefully right the ship, but I don't like much about that team. I don't like Scam at all.
Chicago=need to rebuild the entire OL and the D is getting old but that is a good gig.

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RE: Foles

Earned the opportunity for next year.

You really can't tell yet. If he has an intact offensive line and Desean Jackson and Shady McCoy are back 100% you can start the grading process from there.

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Papa Voo wrote: Cleveland has a decent defense.

That pick of QB Brandon Weeden in the First Round was just ridiculous.  This screwed the offense up for any future head coach. 

I do not think Cleveland is as bad off as some think.  The offense needs overhauled starting with Weeden unless some new coach can make him somewhat successful.   Richardson should give them a decent running game, but they need to vastly improve the passing offense and you need a good QB to do that.
They need WRs as well.  Richardson, Alex Mack, and Joe Thomas are the only quality players they have on Offense.  That team is bereft of talented skill position players.  Their defense is middle of the pack.  That team has just been a wasteland since they came back.

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KC, Arizona, Buffalo and Cleveland = bad jobs


Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Philly = good jobs

The "good" jobs have QBs in place and you can conceivably can "win" there realistically soon.


I disagree.
KC has a lot of talent-5 pro bowlers this year, it was just awful coaching and a terrible QB. If you can get a QB, it's a very good gig.
AZ-terrible O line and no QB but the best WR in football (IMO) and a very good D. Not bad.
Buffalo-fairly talented but missing a QB.
Cleveland-good young nucleus, but I would think the owner will have a short leash with anybody (2 years of rebuilding and that's it).
San Diego has Rivers but that D is awful, the OL sucks, the RB's are terrible. Plus Rivers looked terrible.
Philly has talent but they are a mess. Plus I'd hate to have to deal with the fans. Sorry.
Carolina-Accorsi will find a real GM who will hopefully right the ship, but I don't like much about that team. I don't like Scam at all.
Chicago=need to rebuild the entire OL and the D is getting old but that is a good gig.


Yes, kc had ludicrously bad coaching, but from things that have been reported over the last few years, I'm under the impression that the front office is a mess. Lots of paranoia and dissension. I assumed that was why they hired a guy who had already proven to be one of the worst head coaches in nfl history, because others were scared off by some of the crazy stories and squabbles in that organization.

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That pick of QB Brandon Weeden in the First Round was just ridiculous.  This screwed the offense up for any future head coach. 

I do not think Cleveland is as bad off as some think.  The offense needs overhauled starting with Weeden unless some new coach can make him somewhat successful.   Richardson should give them a decent running game, but they need to vastly improve the passing offense and you need a good QB to do that.
They need WRs as well.  Richardson, Alex Mack, and Joe Thomas are the only quality players they have on Offense.  That team is bereft of talented skill position players.  Their defense is middle of the pack.  That team has just been a wasteland since they came back.


I agree with you, but I do not think it is blow-it-up and start over scenario, either.   The receiving corps definitely needs upgraded, but you also need a QB to get the ball to them, and I was not really impressed with Weeden, even though he was a rookie.  He looked to me like he is going to be a middle-roader at best sort of Tim couch all over, again.  He really does not have time to mature since he is 29 years old already.  Like I said, the offense needs to be overhauled in regards to the passing game, but the poor draft selections may have painted themselves in a corner.

Phil Taylor, Ahyyba Rubin, D'Quell Jackson, Joe Haden on defense are some guys to build around for a strong defense.

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Papa Voo wrote: Arians and Cutler......that would be a match made in heaven.

Bears are interviewing Arians and the Bears in recent years have hired people without previous head coaching experience. Ditka was a special teams coach. Wannstedt was a defensive coordinator. So was Jauron. And Lovie too.

Arians was intertim head coach for most of the year. I really have no idea what current Bears GM Phil Emery will do. 

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I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.

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sek69 wrote: I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.I think Cutler could be a decent QB for them, if he wasn't being hit or chased down all the time.  He has shown if given protection, he can be decent, its just that Oline gives him zero protection most of the time


Cutler's not the issue. That line and Arizona's were the two worst in the NFL, and I'd take AZ's over Chicagos.

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sek69 wrote: I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.I think Cutler could be a decent QB for them, if he wasn't being hit or chased down all the time.  He has shown if given protection, he can be decent, its just that Oline gives him zero protection most of the time


Cutler's not the issue. That line and Arizona's were the two worst in the NFL, and I'd take AZ's over Chicagos.


Cutler may not be THE only issue but he is most certainly one of the issues.  Overrated as hell.

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It's hard to tell how good Cutler is or isn't because the offensive line is so bad. That being said. Aaron Rodgers gets it done with a bad offensive line.

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clawmaster wrote: Ron Rivera has not officially been whacked in Carolina.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/ron-rivera-jerry-richardson-meeting-on-saturday/

Ron Rivera, Jerry Richardson meeting on Saturday
Posted by Josh Alper on January 4, 2013, 10:28 AM EST

The Panthers are putting together a list of general manager candidates, which now reportedly includes Titans vice president of player personnel Lake Dawson, but their head coach still hasn’t met with the team’s owner to talk about the 2012 season.

According to Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer, that meeting will take place on Saturday. Ron Rivera and owner Jerry Richardson are expected to sit down to discuss Rivera’s future with the team. Rivera’s status has been in question ever since the Panthers fired General Manager Marty Hurney, but his team did finish the year with five wins in the final six games and four straight at the end of the year to wind up with a better record than he had in 2011.

How much playing out the string at that pace will impact Richardson’s decision remains to be seen, but it does suggest that Rivera was still able to find a way to elicit a strong effort from his players. An even bigger question is whether Richardson would make keeping Rivera as the coach for at least one more year would become a precondition for any G.M. candidates if the owner does decide to keep Rivera around.

We should know more after the weekend about who will be on the sideline for the Panthers in 2013.



 

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Great job by his agent by the way. Earlier in the week reported that Andy and Arizona were close [attempted nudge of KC that worked] Then he talks to KC and he was "close" there for a day or so[attempted nudge that nobody else bites on]

If he was "in demand" he would have still at least talked to San Diego or Chicago.

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nyhack56 wrote: Andy Reid to KC is official per ESPN.com.
...and that POS Scott Pioli out. I dunno what impact Reid will make, but after watching Pioli, Haley and Crennel fuck this team up here the last 4 years I'll take some kind of rebuilding.

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nyhack56 wrote: Andy Reid to KC is official per ESPN.com.

out of the fire into the frying pan.  KC needs a QB and Andy has only had success with Donovan McNabb and failed miserable at replacing him save for 6-8 Vick games.  Where's Lenny Dawson when you need him?

 

 

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Andy started in Philly by drafting McNabb and then starting Doug Pederson until McNabb was ready.

So -- Andy drafts a QB and brings McNabb aboard to play the "Pederson" role.

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So -- Andy drafts a QB and brings McNabb aboard to play the "Pederson" role.

so is that the "Pederson Principle"?

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Andy started in Philly by drafting McNabb and then starting Doug Pederson until McNabb was ready.

So -- Andy drafts a QB and brings McNabb aboard to play the "Pederson" role.

I think the last Qb that was drafted by KC that actually won a game was in 1989. KC must have shitty scouts.

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It's pretty much a given that KC is going to draft Geno Smith.

They should trade down.u

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It's pretty much a given that KC is going to draft Geno Smith.

They should trade down.u

That's what I think also, and draft Mike Glennon.

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AP source: Chip Kelly close to deal with Cleveland Browns

By Tom Withers, Associated Press Published: Jan 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM PS

CLEVELAND (AP) — A person familiar with the negotiations says the Cleveland Browns are close to a deal with Oregon's Chip Kelly to become their next coach.

The Browns interviewed Kelly on Friday and the Ducks coach was supposed to meet with Philadelphia. However, a person familiar with the interviews says the Eagles are "heading in another direction" because Kelly is nearing a deal with Cleveland.

That person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the team isn't discussing its negotiations publicly, said the Eagles planned to interview several other candidates regardless of any conversations with Kelly.

The Eagles were granted permission Friday to interview Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and Seahawks defensive coordinator Gus Bradley and are scheduled to meet with Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy on Sunday.

Following Oregon's win over Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl on Thursday night, the 49-year-old Kelly said he wanted to get the interview process over "quickly."

He turned down an offer from Tampa Bay last year to return for his fourth season at Oregon, where he is 46-7. He has boosted the school's national profile with a high-powered offense capable of turning any game into a track meet.

"It's more a fact-finding mission, finding out if it fits or doesn't fit," Kelly said after the Ducks beat No. 7 Kansas State 35-17. "I've been in one interview in my life for the National Football League, and that was a year ago. I don't really have any preconceived notions about it. I think that's what this deal is all about for me. It's not going to affect us in terms of we're not on the road (recruiting). I'll get an opportunity if people do call, see where they are.

"I want to get it wrapped up quickly and figure out where I'm going to be."

Kelly has been at the top of the Browns' list of candidates since the team fired Pat Shurmur, who went 9-23 in two seasons. Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam and CEO Joe Banner have been conducting interviews in Arizona all week, searching for the team's sixth coach since 1999.

The Browns have declined comment on any interviews.

Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton confirmed he interviewed with Cleveland earlier this week. The Browns have reportedly met with former Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt, Syracuse coach Doug Marrone and Penn State's Bill O'Brien, who removed himself from any consideration on Thursday night and intends to stay at the school.

Kelly doesn't have any NFL coaching experience, but aspects of his up-tempo offense are already being used by some teams.

Kelly wouldn't say if he was leaning one way or another following the Ducks' bowl win.

"I said I'll always listen, and that's what I'll do," he said. "I know that people want to talk to me because of our players. The success of our football program has always been about our guys. It's an honor for someone to say they'd want to talk to me about maybe moving on to go coach in the National Football League. But it's because of what those guys do. I'll listen, and we'll see."

Oregon could be facing possible NCAA sanctions for the school's use of recruiting services, but Kelly indicated he isn't running from anything.

"We've cooperated fully with them," he said. "If they want to talk to us again, we'll continue to cooperate fully. I feel confident in the situation."

Oregon's players gave Kelly a Gatorade bath as the final seconds ticked off the clock in Thursday night's game, and afterward a few of the Ducks seemed resigned to their coach moving on.

"We'll have to see," quarterback Marcus Mariota said. "Whatever he decides to do, we're all behind him. He's an unbelievable coach. He's not only a football coach, but he's someone that you can look to and learn a lot of life lessons from. Whatever happens, happens. But we're all behind him.

"We'll see where it takes us."

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Oregon is about to be put on probation so Chip is taking the NFL big bucks just like Pete Carroll did.

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Eagles get permission to interview Bruce Arians
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 4, 2013, 4:55 PM EST

Bruce Arians did great work in 2012 as the Colts’ interim coach while head coach Chuck Pagano missed most of the season while undergoing chemotherapy. So it’s no surprise that Arians is now considered a strong candidate to become a head coach on a permanent basis.

The Eagles announced on Friday that they have been granted permission to interview Arians. That interview is expected to take place next week, regardless of whether the Colts win or lose against the Ravens on Sunday. Assistant coaches whose teams win in the wild card round of the playoffs are permitted to have head-coaching interviews during the week before the divisional round of the playoffs.

Another assistant coach whose team is playing on Sunday, Seahawks defensive coordinator Gus Bradley, is in the same boat: The Eagles have received permission to interview Bradley and plan to do so next week, regardless of whether the Seahawks win or lose against the Redskins.

Several reports have said that the Eagles’ top candidate is Oregon coach Chip Kelly. The fact that the Eagles are planning multiple interviews for next week suggests that they aren’t expecting to hire Kelly quickly — or that they want Kelly to know that he can’t string them along indefinitely.

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beejmi wrote: I think Philly will take Arians if they can get him.


That is too bad for Philly, I thought they were going to try and turn things around.

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Ron Rivera, Jerry Richardson meeting on Saturday
Posted by Josh Alper on January 4, 2013, 10:28 AM EST

The Panthers are putting together a list of general manager candidates, which now reportedly includes Titans vice president of player personnel Lake Dawson, but their head coach still hasn’t met with the team’s owner to talk about the 2012 season.

According to Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer, that meeting will take place on Saturday. Ron Rivera and owner Jerry Richardson are expected to sit down to discuss Rivera’s future with the team. Rivera’s status has been in question ever since the Panthers fired General Manager Marty Hurney, but his team did finish the year with five wins in the final six games and four straight at the end of the year to wind up with a better record than he had in 2011.

How much playing out the string at that pace will impact Richardson’s decision remains to be seen, but it does suggest that Rivera was still able to find a way to elicit a strong effort from his players. An even bigger question is whether Richardson would make keeping Rivera as the coach for at least one more year would become a precondition for any G.M. candidates if the owner does decide to keep Rivera around.

We should know more after the weekend about who will be on the sideline for the Panthers in 2013.

Carolina decided to keep Rivera as head coach.

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Carolina decided to keep Rivera as head coach.


I'll be curious to see when the regular season ends in 2013 and if he will be a candidate for "Black Monday" in this pool next year. That will depend on which Cam Newton shows up to play next year, I think.

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Carolina decided to keep Rivera as head coach.


I'll be curious to see when the regular season ends in 2013 and if he will be a candidate for "Black Monday" in this pool next year. That will depend on which Cam Newton shows up to play next year, I think.

It's not just Cam. Wide Receiver Steve Smith isn't getting any younger.

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Carolina decided to keep Rivera as head coach.


I'll be curious to see when the regular season ends in 2013 and if he will be a candidate for "Black Monday" in this pool next year. That will depend on which Cam Newton shows up to play next year, I think.

It's not just Cam. Wide Receiver Steve Smith isn't getting any younger.


Yeah, but they can bring in another weapon or two to help out in that regard. If Newton sucks, though, it won't matter who they have riding with him.

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Cam started slow but finished strong and had a great season overall, he's not the problem. One thing that's going to help them next year is they are going to ditch one of the RB's and have one main back and Tolbert at FB carrying the load. If they can just get a few pieces in the draft they'll be playoff contenders next year.

When the season started I thought Cam was maybe going to be a one-hit wonder but he proved me wrong, he had a great season. I think he set the record and passed Manning for most passing yards in a QB's first 2 seasons..

*EDIT* to say this. You are right about Smith, he's not getting any younger, he's still fast as hell, but even he has said he wouldn't have a problem moving to the #2 receiver spot and them bringing in a younger #1..if they did that, with Cam's arm they could rack up some serious points as an offense..

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HBF wrote: Rivera gets fired next year. I still feel good about that pick.

I will second that.  There were issues internally other than Cam.

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Holy hell, they are mentioning Holmgren's name in the Chargers job???   Won't this guy ever go away?  Holmgren has also said he would be open to interview for the Dallas job should it open up. 

Jim Mora's name is also being mentioned.  Mora had one good season so now it is time to bring him back.





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Rob Ryan was just shown the door in Dallas. Not sure I agree with it, but Jerry has to make someone pay, and it can't be himself.

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Was just about to post it...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124015/article/rob-ryan-dallas-cowboys-part-ways-after-two-years

Not sure Ryan deserved the blame. The defense was decimated with injuries. I think Garrett needs to go. He is not a good coach.



 

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I'll tell you this, if I ever get fired from my job, I'm going out like Rob Ryan.

"I took over this floundering, struggling department, the worst in the company, and made it fucking efficient.  I'll be out of work like 5 minutes."

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brodiescomics wrote: Was just about to post it...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124015/article/rob-ryan-dallas-cowboys-part-ways-after-two-years

Not sure Ryan deserved the blame. The defense was decimated with injuries. I think Garrett needs to go. He is not a good coach.
Garrett is not the main problem either.  The one who needs to go in Dallas, is the Owner/GM/Meddler/Dumbass

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Was just about to post it...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124015/article/rob-ryan-dallas-cowboys-part-ways-after-two-years

Not sure Ryan deserved the blame. The defense was decimated with injuries. I think Garrett needs to go. He is not a good coach.


Completely agree. After something like week 8, Ryan didn't even have a real starting ILB to work with. There were games early in the year when Ryan had a healthy D and they were good, but Garrett's shitty play calling and Romo tossing picks just sold their efforts short. Wrong scapegoat. Jerry won't fire himself, so if he had to make someone pay it should have been the guy running the offense.

This is the second D coordinator Garrett has sunk

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Garrett is not the main problem either.  The one who needs to go in Dallas, is the Owner/GM/Meddler/Dumbass


I don't mind if JJ stays as owner but he has to go as GM. Everything wrong with the current situation in Dallas can be found in this JJ quote:

" The night I bought it, I said I would be doing what I’m doing and that’s GM the team and making the final decisions on personnel," he said. " That’s the way it’s always been done. We’ve won three Super Bowls doing it that way, so I’m going to do it again. "


The delusional SOB thinks that he was the master genius behind 3 Super Bowl teams and if he did it once then he can do it again. :(

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mike3775 wrote: brodiescomics wrote: Was just about to post it...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124015/article/rob-ryan-dallas-cowboys-part-ways-after-two-years

Not sure Ryan deserved the blame. The defense was decimated with injuries. I think Garrett needs to go. He is not a good coach.
Garrett is not the main problem either.  The one who needs to go in Dallas, is the Owner/GM/Meddler/Dumbass

I don't disagree with yoru JJ assessment but I do think that Garrett is an Offensive Coordinator and not a head coach.  Norv Turner comes to mind as a comparison.

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yellowdog wrote: mike3775 wrote: brodiescomics wrote: Was just about to post it...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124015/article/rob-ryan-dallas-cowboys-part-ways-after-two-years

Not sure Ryan deserved the blame. The defense was decimated with injuries. I think Garrett needs to go. He is not a good coach.
Garrett is not the main problem either.  The one who needs to go in Dallas, is the Owner/GM/Meddler/Dumbass

I don't disagree with yoru JJ assessment but I do think that Garrett is an Offensive Coordinator and not a head coach.  Norv Turner comes to mind as a comparison.
I can agree with that, but until the dumbass owner actually gets a GM that knows football in place, no head coach is ever going to do good in Dallas

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Biggest rumor in SoCal is the the Chargers will try and woo Jim Mora from UCLA to coach the Bolts, with an expectation the Chargers will be in LA in no less than two seasons.

An upgrade from Norv, which may not be saying anything at all.   But any movement is better than no movement at all at this point.   And to think ownership fired Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season.

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Biggest rumor in SoCal is the the Chargers will try and woo Jim Mora from UCLA to coach the Bolts, with an expectation the Chargers will be in LA in no less than two seasons.

An upgrade from Norv, which may not be saying anything at all.   But any movement is better than no movement at all at this point.   And to think ownership fired Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season.


But in all fairness to SD's ownership, AJ Smith was still highly thought of there and he basically did lead the charge to have Schotty shitcanned.

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Hymie Itsu wrote: thunderbolt wrote:
Biggest rumor in SoCal is the the Chargers will try and woo Jim Mora from UCLA to coach the Bolts, with an expectation the Chargers will be in LA in no less than two seasons.

An upgrade from Norv, which may not be saying anything at all.   But any movement is better than no movement at all at this point.   And to think ownership fired Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season.


But in all fairness to SD's ownership, AJ Smith was still highly thought of there and he basically did lead the charge to have Schotty shitcanned.

You mean the presently unemployed AJ Smith?  The Bolts also need a GM, by the way.

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Brian Kelly is, IMO, the 3rd best CFB coach and to leave a prestigious program like ND for the Eagles would be a huge mistake.

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Biggest rumor in SoCal is the the Chargers will try and woo Jim Mora from UCLA to coach the Bolts, with an expectation the Chargers will be in LA in no less than two seasons.

An upgrade from Norv, which may not be saying anything at all.   But any movement is better than no movement at all at this point.   And to think ownership fired Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season.


Mora is a slimy, slippery fuck, but he's a decent coach. I'd never want to try and build a program around a value-less person.

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HBF wrote: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8830219/brian-kelly-notre-dame-fighting-irish-interviews-philadelphia-eagles-coaching-vacancy-sources

Brian Kelly is, IMO, the 3rd best CFB coach and to leave a prestigious program like ND for the Eagles would be a huge mistake.
Why would Kelly want to go to the Eagles where he has to put up with overinflated ego's and couldnt do shit for discipline?

HE is perfect right where he is at right now.  I really think Notre Dame under Kelly is back to what it used to be and eventually they will get another NC under Kelly

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Add Mike Mularky to the list, the Jags have announced that he's been fired by new G.M. David Caldwell.

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Why would Kelly want to go to the Eagles where he has to put up with overinflated ego's and couldnt do shit for discipline?

The first two college coaches the Eagles interviewed ending up hearing "Nooooo don't go ....." from their universities and ended up getting nice little raises. Eagles getting played here also I would think.

Add Mike Mularky to the list, the Jags have announced that he's been fired by new G.M. David Caldwell.

One could say that they have had enough of the mularkey

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Cowboys are looking to bring on Monty Kiffin. He sucks. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Cowboys-making-a-push-to-land-Monte-Kiffin-as-defensive-coordinator.html?sct=hp_t2_a13

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Jerry wants to hire him so he has someone to go to Pappa Bros with and get the seniors special.

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Jerry wants to hire him so he has someone to go to Pappa Bros with and get the seniors special.


Kiffin did a good job 10 years ago with a defense that had several all-time players (Brooks, Lynch, maybe Rice and Barber) but he is not the same coach as then. Plus his defenses have been getting smoked.

Jerry needs to bite the dust for the betterment of the Cowboys. http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8828247/dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-too-stubborn-consider-stepping-gm

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It'll always be shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic until he's gone.

Hiring a 75 year old man to run your defence is beyond stupid, but with Jerry, it's not surprising. He has to do things his way. Nobody can be bigger than he is. Until he wins a SB without Jimmy getting credit, it'll eat him alive. Unfortunately for Jerry, and Cowboys fans like myself, he'll die with it eating at him. He just doesn't have a clue when it comes to building a team.

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Chris OtL wrote: It'll always be shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic until he's gone.

Hiring a 75 year old man to run your defence is beyond stupid, but with Jerry, it's not surprising. He has to do things his way. Nobody can be bigger than he is. Until he wins a SB without Jimmy getting credit, it'll eat him alive. Unfortunately for Jerry, and Cowboys fans like myself, he'll die with it eating at him. He just doesn't have a clue when it comes to building a team.
Who takes over the team when he dies?

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His son would be my guess

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Chris OtL wrote: His son would be my guessIs he smarter than dad?

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Browns hire this guy: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130110/browns-hire-chudzinski-as-new-coach.ap/?sct=hp_t2_a3&eref=sihp

Bad hire. He couldn't put together a system in Carolina to even take advantage of the team's perceived greatest strength, which was running backs.

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Jimmy Johnson tweeted Marc Trestman will be the next head coach of the Chicago Bears. Denials from everyone including Trestman.

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Monte Kiffin agrees to become Cowboys’ defensive coordinator
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 11, 2013, 1:42 PM EST

Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett wanted Monte Kiffin, and now they got their man.

Kiffin has agreed to become the Cowboys’ next defensive coordinator, ESPN’s Ed Werder reports.

As the guru of the Tampa 2 defense, Kiffin will surely bring in a dramatic departure from the schemes of the previous defensive coordinator, Rob Ryan. Kiffin will shift from a 3-4 front to a 4-3 front, and the Cowboys’ secondary will learn to play in a Cover 2 defense.

The question now is whether the Cowboys have the right personnel for that: DeMarcus Ware has become one of the NFL’s best pass rushers as a 3-4 outside linebacker, but now he’ll be shifted into a 4-3 defensive end. And the Cowboys made major investments in the cornerbacks last season, signing Brandon Carr to a free-agent contract and trading up to draft Morris Claiborne, but they made those investments with the idea that Carr and Claiborne were the right fits for Ryan’s defense, not for Kiffin’s.

So for Jones and Garrett, bringing in Kiffin is a gamble. If the gamble doesn’t pay off, expect even bigger changes in Dallas a year from now.

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He was the only one who could convince Jerry a few years ago to cut TO, so yes.

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He was the only one who could convince Jerry a few years ago to cut TO, so yes.


So Dallas fans have to hope Jerry dies soon then, as that is the only way a SB is going to be won by Dallas

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So Dallas fans have to hope Jerry dies soon then, as that is the only way a SB is going to be won by Dallas

We Chicago Blackhawk fans spent many years hoping Bill Wirtz would die so someone else could take over the team, and when he did die, the Hawks had a Cup within a couple of years.

So yeah, it worked. :)

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So Dallas fans have to hope Jerry dies soon then, as that is the only way a SB is going to be won by Dallas

We Chicago Blackhawk fans spent many years hoping Bill Wirtz would die so someone else could take over the team, and when he did die, the Hawks had a Cup within a couple of years.

So yeah, it worked. :)
I remember the day after he died, the son signed a deal with Comcast Sports Net to televise the rest of that seasons home games

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/report-bears-hire-marc-trestman-as-head-coach/

Report: Bears hire Marc Trestman as head coach
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The Chicago Bears search for their next head coach has apparently come to a conclusion.

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, the Bears will hire Montreal Alouettes head coach Marc Trestman as their next head coach.

Trestman was selected over Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.

Trestman has served as the Alouettes head coach since 2008 and led Montreal to three Grey Cup appearances and two titles in five seasons.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/report-bears-hire-marc-trestman-as-head-coach/

Report: Bears hire Marc Trestman as head coach
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on January 16, 2013, 2:02 AM EST

The Chicago Bears search for their next head coach has apparently come to a conclusion.

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, the Bears will hire Montreal Alouettes head coach Marc Trestman as their next head coach.

Trestman was selected over Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.

Trestman has served as the Alouettes head coach since 2008 and led Montreal to three Grey Cup appearances and two titles in five seasons.
Can't wait to see him blow up at the officials when he isn't given 1 point on something that should be worth 1 point  lol

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According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, the Bears will hire Montreal Alouettes head coach Marc Trestman as their next head coach.


Can't wait to see him blow up at the officials when he isn't given 1 point on something that should be worth 1 point  lol


I look forward to the reaction from Bears fans when he keeps punting on 3rd down. :tongue:

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Trestman was OC for the Niners for one season before he was run outta town. Niners had back to back Superbowl wins after he left.

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Huh?

I just read his history and it shows he was there with the Niners for 2 seasons from 95-96.  And there haven't been back to back wins for them since 89 and 90.

And when he was there, they lead the league in points scored, passing attempts and passing yards.

I'm confused on that claim.

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Huh?

I just read his history and it shows he was there with the Niners for 2 seasons from 95-96.  And there haven't been back to back wins for them since 89 and 90.

And when he was there, they lead the league in points scored, passing attempts and passing yards.

I'm confused on that claim.

You know what... You are correct. Trestman followed Holmgren and Shanahan Superbowl years. He got the ax because he couldn't beat Green Bay. His offensive strategy was lacking compare to his predecessors.

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Ahh, gotcha.


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Arians to the Cardinals.  Let the fun begin.  Maybe Ben gets traded to the Cardinals for a bunch of picks?

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That'd be hilarious.

I'm actually glad he's moving on from the Colts.  I want to see what they can do if they can establish a running game and not have Luck throwing the ball 40 times per game.  And like you said when I asked about him before the season, less screen plays in the redzone.

And they chose him over their DC in Ray Horton to the point that Horton was so pissed, he's basically quit/been released. 

Real genius on their part.

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DaNkinator wrote: That'd be hilarious.

I'm actually glad he's moving on from the Colts.  I want to see what they can do if they can establish a running game and not have Luck throwing the ball 40 times per game.  And like you said when I asked about him before the season, less screen plays in the redzone.

And they chose him over their DC in Ray Horton to the point that Horton was so pissed, he's basically quit/been released. 

Real genius on their part.


 

There are some fans in The Burgh wanting Ben out and this is the first year in Ben's career that Colbert, basically the Steelers GM, has said that they would entertain the possibility of taking a QB in the First Round.  Not a good thing to say if you do not want the current QB pissed.  So it may have been said as a motiviational ploy or to send Ben a message.  It seems more and more clear as time goes on that he basically thumbed his nose at Haley's offesnive plan and went back to street ball after his injury. 

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Meh, you know my thoughts on Ben.  I'd actually have a little more respect for the Steelers if they were to do that. :tongue:

It's looking like the Colts want to replace Arians with Luck's old OC from Stanford, Pep Hamilton.  I'm very eager to see if that happens.

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That would definitely be an improvement for Luck, trust me.

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The Raiders sign Tony Sparano as their O-line coach.
I bet he takes over for the Raiders when Dennis Allen gets the ax.

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Benlen wrote: The Raiders sign Tony Sparano as their O-line coach.
I bet he takes over for the Raiders when Dennis Allen gets the ax.

That'll work out well. :D

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Reports are Dallas has taken away play calling abilities from Garrett, which has man suspecting he may be going bye bye after the up coming season



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