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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 03:44 am
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khawk wrote: Ultimark wrote: Verne Gagne's first AWA title win.  I want to see him as champ in a time when it would actually be believable.


Well, his first title was awarded...challenged O'Connor to come in, O'Connor didn't/couldn't/wouldn't...Gagne awarded newly created AWA World title as a result.

So you wouldn't have much luck making that trip back in time, i'm afraid. :D

 

I know he basically awarded himself the title.  How about his first defense to be more specific?   I never "got" the Gagnes.   Maybe if I saw Verne before he was 50 years old, I would think differently.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 12:18 pm
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sportatorium roach wrote: I could go back to the heyday of St. Louis wrestling and go to the Kiel every show, but I would probably just go back to 1986 and make sure I don't miss so many  Prime Times and  JCP shows like I did.
If I can get some plutonium for my DeLorean.....

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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 03:19 pm
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The June 1994 Misawa Kawada TC match in the Budokan is where i would go

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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 03:58 pm
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1970's AWA



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Bruiser and Crusher tag matches from the 60's against Hennig & Race, The Vachons, The Chain Gang, The Kalmikoffs and Gagne & Snyder.

Any Chain Gang, AWA or WWA stuff.

To be a patron in the bar that Karras and Bruiser tore up before their match and witness the whole thing.

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Chitown Rich wrote:

Bruiser and Crusher tag matches from the 60's against Hennig & Race, The Vachons, The Chain Gang, The Kalmikoffs and Gagne & Snyder.

Any Chain Gang, AWA or WWA stuff.

To be a patron in the bar that Karras and Bruiser tore up before their match and witness the whole thing.


This! And....early to mid 70's Los Angeles.....1970's Amarillo.....1970's Stampede



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Ultimark wrote:
I know he basically awarded himself the title.  How about his first defense to be more specific?   I never "got" the Gagnes.   Maybe if I saw Verne before he was 50 years old, I would think differently.

Check out some footage of Verne in the 50's. I have a ton on my Gagne set which I'll be putting out in a few months. Verne pre-50 was indeed quite good.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 08:22 pm
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you guys really picked all the great moments that are most likely very rare or not on film.  I wonder though, is part of the mystique the fact some of these huge events are only in folklore and word of mouth?  I know there was some very historical significance to many of these events, but if everything was captured on film and viewed by a wide audience would it still be as special?  still as mystical?  just a thought.



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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 09:02 pm
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Very few things live up to the hype.  However, if you use the time machine, you get to go back and experience the show as a fan without the expectations of history in the making.



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Flairfan216 wrote: Very few things live up to the hype.  However, if you use the time machine, you get to go back and experience the show as a fan without the expectations of history in the making.
Good point.  I guess that's the real issue here.  Viewing something of great impact and great significance without the knowledge and the history which followed.



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 Posted: Tue Feb 16th, 2010 05:33 pm
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I's like to go back to LA and see the Blassie vs Tolos cage match at the Hollywood Bowl and now Rossi has me intrigued so while I was there catch a few shows at the Whiskey  and Roxy.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 16th, 2010 05:47 pm
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Count Grog wrote: I's like to go back to LA and see the Blassie vs Tolos cage match at the Hollywood Bowl and now Rossi has me intrigued so while I was there catch a few shows at the Whiskey  and Roxy.
I'll skip Blassie and Tolos since it was most likely just biting and blading and buy you a drink at the Whisky to see one of the first North American shows of Zeppelin or The Who.  The time frame might be about right for that.

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Let's see....

The Dusek Omaha territory in the 1960's (The "other" AWA).

San Francisco in the 1960's to see the entire Stevens-Patterson saga. From their initial teaming to Stevens' return as a face to their feud.

WWWF from 1966-1972-ish.

Vancouver under either Rod Fenton or Kovacs and Kiniski.

Hawaii pre-Ed Francis.

Ray Gunkel-era Georgia.



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- I read an interview with Paul Jones a few years back, about his feud with Jack Brisco (I think) over some belt in the Florida territory.  It was one of the first times the "Belt goes over the bridge" angles was ever used.  I'd have liked to have witnessed that along with Jones as a heel in MACW after turning on Steamboat.

- And although I've seen a few matches of it, I wish I could have seen the interviews and the build of Flair and Greg Valentine as a team.  Especially the stuff against the Andersons.

- Wish I had witnessed a lot more of Masked Superstar vs. Mr. Wrestling II in GCW in the late 70's.  (Is there available footage in the tarding circles of any of this?)

- More of Dibiase as a heel in GCW, I've mostly only seen his stuff in MidSouth as a heel.

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Verne Gagne vs Mr M (Bill Miller) title change

Verne Gagne vs Nick Bockwinkle- 1975 title change just to see the crowd's reaction to Verne losing. Not sure if there is video of this

Paul Jones vs Blackjack Mulligan- feud over the US Title in 75 and 76

Ray Stevens in his prime in San Francisco- circa 65-66



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