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 Posted: Sat May 4th, 2013 03:01 am
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tamalie wrote:
There were some decent things to Nitro in its early days from the fall of 1995 to mid 1996 before the NWO angle started. However, it's easy to look back through rose colored glasses and ignore the really bad stuff that went on.

- Hogan in his final months as a babyface was getting heel reactions and not taking it well.

- The Dungeon of Doom was at its peak of awfulness with the giant cage match fiasco and Loch Ness' push among the garbage.

- Ed Leslie's Booty Man gimmick was getting major air time.

- One Man Gang won the U.S. Title at a point when it still meant something.

- Eric Bischoff and Steve McMichael regularly took commentary to new lows on Nitro.

- The American Males won the tag team title even though that style of team was more at home in 1985 than 1995.

- We got the horrible John Tenta-Big Bubba feud.

- The Hogan handcuff angle when Elizabeth couldn't figure out how to use the cuffs, so Hogan cuffed himself to the post in full view of the cameras.

- The DDP is broke and homeless angle.



I used to watch WCW World Wide ever week during this era. The Dungeon of Doom stuff was sad to see.

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Before the actual turn on July 7th, 1996 (Bash At The Beach), when exactly was the decision made to turn Hogan heel/when did he decide to do it?
Was the decision made before May 27th, which was Scott Hall's debut on Nitro?

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tamalie wrote:

- The Dungeon of Doom was at its peak of awfulness with the giant cage match fiasco and Loch Ness' push among the garbage.

- Ed Leslie's Booty Man gimmick was getting major air time.


- Eric Bischoff and Steve McMichael regularly took commentary to new lows on Nitro.





Real bad stuff right there.  The Dungeon of Doom was just a  complete and utter train wreck.  This is when Leslie would not go away.  Steve McMichael was unbearable on the mic and in the ring. 

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tamalie wrote: There were some decent things to Nitro in its early days from the fall of 1995 to mid 1996 before the NWO angle started. However, it's easy to look back through rose colored glasses and ignore the really bad stuff that went on.

- Hogan in his final months as a babyface was getting heel reactions and not taking it well.

- The Dungeon of Doom was at its peak of awfulness with the giant cage match fiasco and Loch Ness' push among the garbage.

- Ed Leslie's Booty Man gimmick was getting major air time.

- One Man Gang won the U.S. Title at a point when it still meant something.

- Eric Bischoff and Steve McMichael regularly took commentary to new lows on Nitro.

- The American Males won the tag team title even though that style of team was more at home in 1985 than 1995.

- We got the horrible John Tenta-Big Bubba feud.

- The Hogan handcuff angle when Elizabeth couldn't figure out how to use the cuffs, so Hogan cuffed himself to the post in full view of the cameras.

- The DDP is broke and homeless angle.

I liked the Luger tweener thing with Sting torn about siding with the babyfaces or his friend. The Savage-Flair feud had good heat. A number of big names returned after long absences. Hall and Nash made waves with their arrivals. However, Nitro was also utterly unwatchable during quite often during this time frame.


Good post, Tamalie.  There was no doubt an over-abundance of absolute shit being broadcast at the time. I guess I just wanted to point out that the Luger-tweener angle and some of the Horseman stuff at the time was fairly interesting.  It's almost like someone else (Sullivan maybe?) was booking that side of the company, and Hogan and Bischoff were booking the other shit.



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tamalie wrote:
- The American Males won the tag team title even though that style of team was more at home in 1985 than 1995.


I read once that this was basically to cheer Bagwell up, as he was going through a messy divorce.  They weren't champs for that long and at least it added an air of unpredictability to title matches.



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carpetbeggar wrote: Before the actual turn on July 7th, 1996 (Bash At The Beach), when exactly was the decision made to turn Hogan heel/when did he decide to do it?
Was the decision made before May 27th, which was Scott Hall's debut on Nitro?

I don't think so because everything I've ever heard about it said that Hogan wasn't originally on board at all and it took a lot of convincing for him to do it.  With that said, I remember a few interviews with him in the black even before Hall and Nash coming in and wondering what he was doing. 



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Superstar wrote: carpetbeggar wrote: Before the actual turn on July 7th, 1996 (Bash At The Beach), when exactly was the decision made to turn Hogan heel/when did he decide to do it?
Was the decision made before May 27th, which was Scott Hall's debut on Nitro?

I don't think so because everything I've ever heard about it said that Hogan wasn't originally on board at all and it took a lot of convincing for him to do it.  With that said, I remember a few interviews with him in the black even before Hall and Nash coming in and wondering what he was doing. 

I think that was in the Fall of '95 right after Halloween Havoc when Jimmy Hart turned on him, Kevin Sullinvan shaved half his mustache off, and had the WCW Title taken-off him on a 'technicallity'.

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Hogan was wearing black at the time, looking not unlike his Hollywood Hulk Hogan persona from several months later. Hogan also seemed to enage in a minor backlash against the negative fan reaction he received, the kind a wrestler usually makes when he's either about to turn or has just turned. Was this also the time period of him burning a copy of the Observer on TV?

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I actually thought Steve McMichael wasn't all that bad in the ring, especially for a guy who spent a whole career doing something else and just basically walked into wrestling. He was a perfectly acceptable big guy doing a football player gimmick. The fact that he sounded completely retarded on commentary is what kills him for everyone though.



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he was more retarded in the ring then on the mic.

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Chrisstlouis wrote: he was more retarded in the ring then on the mic.

that really is a toss-up.  He was horrible in both aspects. I thought he should have looked much better in the ring for the time he invested into preparing for it.



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Papa Voo wrote: Chrisstlouis wrote: he was more retarded in the ring then on the mic.

that really is a toss-up.  He was horrible in both aspects. I thought he should have looked much better in the ring for the time he invested into preparing for it.

Didn't he use the tombstone as a finisher too? I remember hearing something about him dropping Regal on his head.

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