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"Dear Miley,

I wasn’t going to write this letter, but today i’ve been dodging phone calls from various newspapers who wished me to remark upon your having said in Rolling Stone your Wrecking Ball video was designed to be similar to the one for Nothing Compares... So this is what I need to say... And it is said in the spirit of motherliness and with love.

I am extremely concerned for you that those around you have led you to believe, or encouraged you in your own belief, that it is in any way 'cool' to be naked and licking sledgehammers in your videos. It is in fact the case that you will obscure your talent by allowing yourself to be pimped, whether its the music business or yourself doing the pimping.

Nothing but harm will come in the long run, from allowing yourself to be exploited, and it is absolutely NOT in ANY way an empowerment of yourself or any other young women, for you to send across the message that you are to be valued (even by you) more for your sexual appeal than your obvious talent.

I am happy to hear I am somewhat of a role model for you and I hope that because of that you will pay close attention to what I am telling you.

The music business doesn’t give a shit about you, or any of us. They will prostitute you for all you are worth, and cleverly make you think its what YOU wanted... and when you end up in rehab as a result of being prostituted, 'they' will be sunning themselves on their yachts in Antigua, which they bought by selling your body and you will find yourself very alone.

None of the men oggling you give a shit about you either, do not be fooled. Many’s the woman mistook lust for love. If they want you sexually that doesn’t mean they give a fuck about you. All the more true when you unwittingly give the impression you don’t give much of a fuck about yourself. And when you employ people who give the impression they don’t give much of a fuck about you either. No one who cares about you could support your being pimped... and that includes you yourself.

Yes, I’m suggesting you don’t care for yourself. That has to change. You ought be protected as a precious young lady by anyone in your employ and anyone around you, including you. This is a dangerous world. We don’t encourage our daughters to walk around naked in it because it makes them prey for animals and less than animals (a distressing majority of whom work in the music industry and the associated media).

You are worth more than your body or your sexual appeal. The world of showbiz doesn’t see things that way, they like things to be seen the other way, whether they are magazines who want you on their cover, or whatever.. Don’t be under any illusions.. ALL of them want you because they’re making money off your youth and your beauty.. which they could not do except for the fact your youth makes you blind to the evils of show business. If you have an innocent heart you can’t recognize those who do not.

I repeat, you have enough talent that you don’t need to let the music business make a prostitute of you. You shouldn’t let them make a fool of you either. Don’t think for a moment that any of them give a flying fuck about you. They’re there for the money.. we’re there for the music. It has always been that way and it will always be that way. The sooner a young lady gets to know that, the sooner she can be REALLY in control.

You also said in Rolling Stone that your look is based on mine. The look I chose, I chose on purpose at a time when my record company were encouraging me to do what you have done. I felt I would rather be judged on my talent and not my looks. I am happy that I made that choice, not least because I do not find myself on the proverbial rag heap now that I am almost 47 yrs of age... which unfortunately many female artists who have based their image around their sexuality, end up on when they reach middle age.

Real empowerment of yourself as a woman would be to in future refuse to exploit your body or your sexuality in order for men to make money from you. I needn’t even ask the question.. I’ve been in the business long enough to know that men are making more money than you are from you getting naked. Its really not at all cool. And its sending dangerous signals to other young women. Please in future say no when you are asked to prostitute yourself. Your body is for you and your boyfriend. It isn’t for every spunk-spewing dirtbag on the net, or every greedy record company executive to buy his mistresses diamonds with.

As for the shedding of the Hannah Montana image.. whoever is telling you getting naked is the way to do that does absolutely NOT respect your talent, or you as a young lady. Your records are good enough for you not to need any shedding of Hannah Montana. She’s waaaaaaay gone by now... Not because you got naked but because you make great records.

Whether we like it or not, us females in the industry are role models and as such we have to be extremely careful what messages we send to other women. The message you keep sending is that its somehow cool to be prostituted.. its so not cool Miley.. its dangerous. Women are to be valued for so much more than their sexuality. we aren’t merely objects of desire. I would be encouraging you to send healthier messages to your peers.. that they and you are worth more than what is currently going on in your career. Kindly fire any motherfucker who hasn’t expressed alarm, because they don’t care about you."

 

 

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Miley's well thought our response to this well-crafted letter on Twiiter:

"Before Amanda Bynes...There was..."

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Miley clearly inherited her intellectual acuity from her father....

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srossi wrote:


You also said in Rolling Stone that your look is based on mine.



Yeah I can see that definitely.




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WongLee wrote:
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You also said in Rolling Stone that your look is based on mine.



Yeah I can see that definitely.






Not entirely fair. She never looked as good as Miley, but she had a decent body back in the day.

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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote:
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You also said in Rolling Stone that your look is based on mine.



Yeah I can see that definitely.






Not entirely fair. She never looked as good as Miley, but she had a decent body back in the day.

Benny Hill has nothing to do with this.

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Letter #2:

"Miley... Really? Who the fuck is advising you? Because taking me on is even more fuckin' stupid than behaving like a prostitute and calling it feminism. You have posted today tweets of mine which are two years old, which were posted by me when I was unwell and seeking help so as to make them look like they are recent. In doing so you mock myself and Amanda Bynes for having suffered with mental health issues and for having sought help.

I mean really really... who advises you? have you any idea how stupid and dangerous it is to mock people for suffering illness? You will yourself one day suffer such illness, that is without doubt. The course you have set yourself upon can only end in that, trust me.

I am staggered that any 20 yr old woman of the 21st century could behave in such a dangerous and irresponsible manner as to not only send the signal to young women that its ok to act like prostitutes but also to the signal that those who have suffered or do suffer mental health problems are to be mocked and have their opinions invalidated. Have you no sense of danger at all? or responsibility? Remove your tweets immediately or you will hear from my lawyers. I am certain you will be hearing from all manner of mental health advocacy groups also. It is not acceptable to mock any person for having suffered.

It is most unbecoming of you to respond in such a fashion to someone who expressed care for you. And worse that you are such an anti-female tool of the anti-female music industry. I hope that you will apologise to Amanda Bynes and to any person who has been wounded by your mockery of those who have suffered. And I hope that you will wake up and understand that you in fact are a danger to women.

Furthermore you posted a photo of me tearing the pope's photo .. as if to imply insanity.. by doing so all you have achieved is to expose your staggering ignorance. I suggest you read The Philadelphia Report, The Boston Report, all the reports which will illuminate for you why that action of mine remains sane and valid. By mocking it you mock every child who suffered sexual abuse at the hands of priests and had it covered by the Vatican. You could really do with educating yourself, that is if you're not too busy getting your tits out to read."



And the tweeted reply: "Sinead. I don't have time to write you an open letter cause Im hosting & performing on SNL this week. So if youd like to meet up and talk lemme know in your next letter. :)"



 

 

 

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this is the same Sinead OConnor that ripped up a pic of the pop on snl and derailed her career ? giving advice to little Miley ? has Charlie Sheen piped in yet

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carlton st wrote:
this is the same Sinead OConnor that ripped up a pic of the pop on snl and derailed her career ? giving advice to little Miley ? has Charlie Sheen piped in yet

I think you're missing the point of what Sinead was saying, nor am I certain that you read her second letter in its entirety.

I don't care what anybody says, Sinead's spot on and her letters are terrific. This is my favorite line: "You could really do with educating yourself, that is if you're not too busy getting your tits out to read." Funny shit.

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carlton st wrote: this is the same Sinead OConnor that ripped up a pic of the pop on snl and derailed her career ? giving advice to little Miley ? has Charlie Sheen piped in yet

Whether it derailed her career or not, she was absolutely correct.  And 20 years ago when she did it, most people had no idea just how correct she was.  But now, it's not even a debateable point.  It's hardly the same thing as what she's talking to Miley about.  In fact, it's quite the opposite, so I think you missed her point. 

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not saying O'Connor isnt correct just that she shouldnt be giving advice in an open letter and expecting a warm embrace in the public spectrum










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carlton st wrote:
not saying O'Connor isnt correct just that she shouldnt be giving advice in an open letter and expecting a warm embrace in the public spectrum


Yep. She's batshit crazy legit and even though there's probably some truth in her letter, I wouldn't expect anyone to take it seriously coming from her.

Anyway, it kind of shows how naive Sinead really is that she can't understand that what Miley has done and is doing is a calculated move and pretty damned smart. Miley and her handlers know exactly what she's doing and she's going to continue raking in the $$$$ because of all this stuff. Good for her, grab all you can while you can I say, cause eventually you'll end up looking like Sinead does now and nobody is going to buy anything you put out there when you do..

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Married Jo wrote: carlton st wrote:
not saying O'Connor isnt correct just that she shouldnt be giving advice in an open letter and expecting a warm embrace in the public spectrum


Yep. She's batshit crazy legit and even though there's probably some truth in her letter, I wouldn't expect anyone to take it seriously coming from her.

Anyway, it kind of shows how naive Sinead really is that she can't understand that what Miley has done and is doing is a calculated move and pretty damned smart. Miley and her handlers know exactly what she's doing and she's going to continue raking in the $$$$ because of all this stuff. Good for her, grab all you can while you can I say, cause eventually you'll end up looking like Sinead does now and nobody is going to buy anything you put out there when you do..

It's smart for her handlers who will get the bulk of her money.  The exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing.  How is it "smart" on Miley's part?  Is there any conceivable way she's retired on a beach with millions, a family, and a happy life in 20 years?  We've all seen how this ends.  Her handlers aren't setting up a 401(k) for her.  The money always disappears around the same time as the fame, and then all the problems from years of exploitation remain with nothing else to show for it.  But yeah, someone's getting rich off of her. That was the exact point.  Assuming she survives that long, in 20 years (or less) we're going to be reading about how Miley said that Sinead was right and she wished she had listened.  We all know that.  Beejmi's next pool should actually be "Guess the date that Miley says Sinead was right.  Closest wins 100 DVDs."  I'll go January 16, 2028.       

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I'll be honest, I hadn't seen a picture of Sinead O'Conner for years.  I do remember thinking she was kind of sleek and sexy in a "probably nuts, but....." sort of way when she had a number of videos out around 1990.  Hadn't really given her much thought since then.  Kinda wishing Rossi hadn't brought me up to date.


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thunderbolt wrote: I'll be honest, I hadn't seen a picture of Sinead O'Conner for years.  I do remember thinking she was kind of sleek and sexy in a "probably nuts, but....." sort of way when she had a number of videos out around 1990.  Hadn't really given her much thought since then.  Kinda wishing Rossi hadn't brought me up to date.



I never liked the bald or crew cut look on her, that's one of the most instant turn-offs for me in any woman (although some pull it off better than others), but I need long hair.  Even when someone like Natalie Portman cuts her hair super short, I recoil in horror and it kills it for me.  That said, anyone who says that Sinead didn't have a rocking body back in the day, is a liar.  And she exuded sexuality in some of her videos, in a much sexier and less "I need an HIV test just for looking at this" sorta way.  So the comparison is apt.  Now Wong Lee posting her current photo was just unacceptable and I nominate him to be banned just like Doc Delaware. But we're comparing 1990 Sinead to 2013 Miley.   

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3rd letter already written.  She's churning them out faster than Barbara Cartland (Google it).

This one is whiny and includes absurd legal threats.  She needed to stop after #2.  Here it is:

I have no interest whatsoever in meeting you. You had plenty of time yesterday to abuse Amanda Bynes .. an entirely innocent party.. and myself.. who also did nothing to deserve your abuse.. along with every other sufferer of mental health problems and every person who suffered abuse at the hands of priests.

When you publicly apologise to Amanda and myself and all mental health sufferers as well as all who were abused by priests that will end the matter as far as I am concerned. what you did yesterday was designed to damage me and my career and has caused me enormous distress and harassment and has potential to damage my career, since you deliberately gave the impression those tweets of mine were not two years old but reflect my current condition. If you cannot apologize I will have no choice but to bring legal proceedings against you since it is extremely hard to be given work when people think one is suffering from mental illness.

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:D

they said the same stuff about Madonna, and she didnt have much talent (at least as a singer) but she had determination , in the end talent beats looks for longevity so she had something , even if the parents hated her , just like Miley

he exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing...........  Assuming she survives that long, in 20 years (or less) we're going to be reading about how Miley said that Sinead was right and she wished she had listened.

not necessarily , Courtney Love is still around 20 years later , warts and all , its 'art' after all. Beiber too, boggles the mind if he is still around in 20 years but there are tons of no-talent parent scaring rebel rouser still around 20-30-40 yrs later

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carlton st wrote: :D

they said the same stuff about Madonna, and she didnt have much talent (at least as a singer) but she had determination , in the end talent beats looks for longevity so she had something , even if the parents hated her , just like Miley

he exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing...........  Assuming she survives that long, in 20 years (or less) we're going to be reading about how Miley said that Sinead was right and she wished she had listened.

not necessarily , Courtney Love is still around 20 years later , warts and all , its 'art' after all. Beiber too, boggles the mind if he is still around in 20 years but there are tons of no-talent parent scaring rebel rouser still around 20-30-40 yrs later

Around in the sense that she hasn't died yet.  The rehabs, depression, lawsuits, etc. are all true for her.  She's a living cliche.  And Courtney Love wasn't a young pop star, she was always most famous for who she married from day one.  Who ever heard of Hole before Kurt Cobain?  She never had her own fame.  She has always been Cobain's crazy wife/widow who gets drunk and makes a fool of herself in public from time to time, before disappearing again into obscurity.  If Cyrus is acting like Love in 20 years, then Sinead called it because that's the type of behavior she's referring to.  

And Madonna is one in a million and has reinvented herself a million times to stay relevant.  That's like picking a random boy band kid out and saying, "You're going to be the next Michael Jackson because that's how he started too."  And in the last 40 years, one kid in a boy band achieved that, Justin Timberlake.  The rest are dead, in jail, or (if they're lucky) living in obscurity.  You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than winding up as fortunate as Madonna or Timberlake.

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srossi wrote: Now Wong Lee posting her current photo was just unacceptable and I nominate him to be banned just like Doc Delaware. But we're comparing 1990 Sinead to 2013 Miley.  

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WongLee, I expect better from a Beejmi board poster. Just how many years younger is Miley in those pictures?

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carlton st wrote:
:D

they said the same stuff about Madonna, and she didnt have much talent (at least as a singer) but she had determination , in the end talent beats looks for longevity so she had something , even if the parents hated her , just like Miley

he exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing...........  Assuming she survives that long, in 20 years (or less) we're going to be reading about how Miley said that Sinead was right and she wished she had listened.

not necessarily , Courtney Love is still around 20 years later , warts and all , its 'art' after all. Beiber too, boggles the mind if he is still around in 20 years but there are tons of no-talent parent scaring rebel rouser still around 20-30-40 yrs later

Courtney Love? C'mon Carlton St. For a small amount time she had some respect, maybe her time acting in the Larry Flynt/Man on the Moon era. But other than that, massive train wreck.

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This whore is an obvious pick for next years death pool.

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Around in the sense that she hasn't died yet. The rehabs, depression, lawsuits, etc. are all true for her. She's a living cliche. And Courtney Love wasn't a young pop star, she was always most famous for who she married from day one. Who ever heard of Hole before Kurt Cobain? She never had her own fame. She has always been Cobain's crazy wife/widow who gets drunk and makes a fool of herself in public from time to time, before disappearing again into obscurity. If Cyrus is acting like Love in 20 years, then Sinead called it because that's the type of behavior she's referring to.

well no , Love is still around, likely living in a nicer house than you , worth about 100 mil and not dead or in jail as everyone 'knew' she would be 20 years ago

The exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing
you dont know that, just like shinehead you are making an assumption that you know Miley , what motivates her, what she does in her private life and a ton of other stuff you have no idea about, its your opinion , not the law

no-one (especially someone who is successful in their field) wants to be told what to do or how to act in front of the class, and anyone who does it to someone else in the public forum is only looking for attention themselves - and deserves to be told to eff off

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carlton st wrote: Around in the sense that she hasn't died yet. The rehabs, depression, lawsuits, etc. are all true for her. She's a living cliche. And Courtney Love wasn't a young pop star, she was always most famous for who she married from day one. Who ever heard of Hole before Kurt Cobain? She never had her own fame. She has always been Cobain's crazy wife/widow who gets drunk and makes a fool of herself in public from time to time, before disappearing again into obscurity. If Cyrus is acting like Love in 20 years, then Sinead called it because that's the type of behavior she's referring to.

well no , Love is still around, likely living in a nicer house than you , worth about 100 mil and not dead or in jail as everyone 'knew' she would be 20 years ago

The exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing

Yeah, we'd all love to trade lives with Courtney Love.  She's tried to kill herself at least once (on her 40th birthday), has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals and rehab, has certainly been in jail (several times, but since she isn't incarcerated on this particular day I guess it doesn't count), and had her daughter taken away from her and wasn't allowed to see her (not sure if she can now).  But she probably lives in a nice house. 

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sportatorium roach wrote: carlton st wrote:
:D

they said the same stuff about Madonna, and she didnt have much talent (at least as a singer) but she had determination , in the end talent beats looks for longevity so she had something , even if the parents hated her , just like Miley

he exact point that Sinead is making is that in 20 years Miley IS going to wind up looking like her, and she's going to have the psychiatric problems and drug rehabs and lawsuits and bankruptcies and everything else that goes along with what she's doing...........  Assuming she survives that long, in 20 years (or less) we're going to be reading about how Miley said that Sinead was right and she wished she had listened.

not necessarily , Courtney Love is still around 20 years later , warts and all , its 'art' after all. Beiber too, boggles the mind if he is still around in 20 years but there are tons of no-talent parent scaring rebel rouser still around 20-30-40 yrs later

Courtney Love? C'mon Carlton St. For a small amount time she had some respect, maybe her time acting in the Larry Flynt/Man on the Moon era. But other than that, massive train wreck.

Funny but the Larry Flynt movie was the exact thing that came to mind for me too.  I was impressed with her performance and, as a condition of getting the part, the studio made her take piss tests throughout filming and she passed them all.  It was probably the longest she's ever gone sober and she showed genuine acting talent.  I thought it might be a springboard to a real movie career, but we all know how she went off the deep end again after that.  A shame.

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Yeah, we'd all love to trade lives with Courtney Love. She's tried to kill herself at least once (on her 40th birthday), has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals and rehab, has certainly been in jail (several times, but since she isn't incarcerated on this particular day I guess it doesn't count), and had her daughter taken away from her and wasn't allowed to see her (not sure if she can now). But she probably lives in a nice house.

ya but what exactly is your point , that her life is no good cause of that stuff , that she should have listened to her parents, or you or anyone else when they tried to 'save' her , do you listen to everyone, life is yours to make what you want out of it , not for wanna be's to tell you what to do or judge you from their couches, people are mentally ill all over the place, geez look around here, I dont agree that Miley is mentally ill , no more than the rest of us , well some of us


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carlton st wrote: Yeah, we'd all love to trade lives with Courtney Love. She's tried to kill herself at least once (on her 40th birthday), has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals and rehab, has certainly been in jail (several times, but since she isn't incarcerated on this particular day I guess it doesn't count), and had her daughter taken away from her and wasn't allowed to see her (not sure if she can now). But she probably lives in a nice house.

ya but what exactly is your point , that her life is no good cause of that stuff , that she should have listened to her parents, or you or anyone else when they tried to 'save' her , do you listen to everyone, life is yours to make what you want out of it , not for wanna be's to tell you what to do or judge you from their couches, people are mentally ill all over the place, geez look around here, I dont agree that Miley is mentally ill , no more than the rest of us , well some of us



No one said that Miley was mentally ill so I have no idea what your point is.  Sinead only said that she feared she was going down a dangerous path, which she clearly is.  And no, Miley probably shouldn't listen to her parents.  Anyone else's parents but her own.

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not saying O'Connor isnt correct just that she shouldnt be giving advice in an open letter and expecting a warm embrace in the public spectrum


Yep. She's batshit crazy legit and even though there's probably some truth in her letter, I wouldn't expect anyone to take it seriously coming from her.

Anyway, it kind of shows how naive Sinead really is that she can't understand that what Miley has done and is doing is a calculated move and pretty damned smart. Miley and her handlers know exactly what she's doing and she's going to continue raking in the $$$$ because of all this stuff. Good for her, grab all you can while you can I say, cause eventually you'll end up looking like Sinead does now and nobody is going to buy anything you put out there when you do..


I don't think you read her letter. She is acknowledging exactly what you're saying, and pointing out that they'll bleeding her dry then leave her to the courts, rehab facilities and mental health care like Britney, Lindsey, etc.

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Not to mention there's really a lot of circumstantial evidence out there that child stars - especially the girls, deal with a lot of abuse on Disney shows. A big reason so many of them end up either out of the business right after their shows end and/or messed up on drugs is having to deal with a combination of stage parents and producers who got into the industry to bang underage girls without fear of reprisal.

I don't doubt all the recent fuss was engineered PR from Miley (or her team at least), but there's still all the stories of her drug use and her family is of no help. I think the biggest mistake Sinead has made in all this is expecting a 20 year old with more money and fame than Jesus to listen to some old lady.

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sek69 wrote: I don't doubt all the recent fuss was engineered PR from Miley (or her team at least), but there's still all the stories of her drug use and her family is of no help. I think the biggest mistake Sinead has made in all this is expecting a 20 year old with more money and fame than Jesus to listen to some old lady.
Sinead's not stupid either.  This is putting her name back out there, and for something positive.  I do find it hilarious though that SNL had Miley spoof everything she's done since diapers, but refused to write a skit about Sinead because her very name is still banned.  Lorne Michaels is probably the best example of what happens to dumb hippies when they get old and rich.  If he saw his 25-year old self on the street now, he'd have his bodyguards beat him for his own amusement.  And even at 25, Lorne was a huge douche.  The saddest thing about Lorne is that after all these years, he truly doesn't get the joke that the system he's pretending to fight is himself.  The total lack of self-awareness is the only funny thing about SNL these past few seasons.

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Lorne absolutely hates when people go off script, Damon Wayans got fired when he got tired of getting stuck with bit parts and decided to play a role that was supposed to be serious in his future "Men on Film" flamboyantly gay character. It was 100x funnier but Lorne flipped his shit because it was unplanned.

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srossi wrote: sek69 wrote: I don't doubt all the recent fuss was engineered PR from Miley (or her team at least), but there's still all the stories of her drug use and her family is of no help. I think the biggest mistake Sinead has made in all this is expecting a 20 year old with more money and fame than Jesus to listen to some old lady.
Sinead's not stupid either.  This is putting her name back out there, and for something positive.  I do find it hilarious though that SNL had Miley spoof everything she's done since diapers, but refused to write a skit about Sinead because her very name is still banned.  Lorne Michaels is probably the best example of what happens to dumb hippies when they get old and rich.  If he saw his 25-year old self on the street now, he'd have his bodyguards beat him for his own amusement.  And even at 25, Lorne was a huge douche.  The saddest thing about Lorne is that after all these years, he truly doesn't get the joke that the system he's pretending to fight is himself.  The total lack of self-awareness is the only funny thing about SNL these past few seasons.


Elvis Costello would be inclined to agree, he got banned for a lifetime (12 years) for performing the wrong song on SNL back in 1977



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